Comprehensive, 25-year list of every Husky football player who truly excelled as a true frosh.

Take THAT Dante Pettis and Brayden Lenius! You guys haven't proven anything against the upper tier of the Pac-12 yet!!! Guffaw, guffaw.

On a serious note, this poast should be stickied.
 
Other true frosh who were adequate, or roughly equal in quality to the veteran(s) they were displacing:

Mark Bruener
Napoleon Kaufman
Sidney Jones

Other true frosh who were promising but ineffective:

Marques Tuiasosopo
Charles Frederick
Budda Baker
Shaq Thompson
Danny Shelton
Demorea Stringfellow

Other huge talents who basically sucked as true frosh:

Bishop Sankey
Chris Polk
Jermaine Kearse
Darrell Daniels

Who am I forgetting?

 
Other true frosh who were adequate, or roughly equal in quality to the veteran(s) they were displacing:

Mark Bruener
Napoleon Kaufman
Sidney Jones

Other true frosh who were promising but ineffective:

Marques Tuiasosopo
Charles Frederick
Budda Baker
Shaq Thompson
Danny Shelton
Demorea Stringfellow

Other huge talents who basically sucked as true frosh:

Bishop Sankey
Chris Polk
Jermaine Kearse
Darrell Daniels

Who am I forgetting?
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Kohler and Porter
 
Wasn't Derrick Johnson a pretty solid CB as a frosh on the RB team? Rich Alexis was pretty damn good as a true frosh, definitely the right decision to play him when we did since he sucked post Tui. Nate Robinson is the most glaring ommission from the list, he was downright nasty as a true frosh.
 
How many of those players would have been better in their second year in the program had they spent their first year on the bench and not getting actual game experience?

None.

edit: and your list is missing the former IMA boxing champ
 
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How many of those players would have been better in their second year in the program had they spent their first year on the bench and not getting actual game experience?

None.
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Yes, redshirting really seemed to set Lawyer Milloy back.
 
Just to be clear, your two points are:

1) Even if Browning is the best qb, he should redshirt because 2019.

2) Players improve just as much by sitting on the bench and observing as they do actually playing in games.
 
@dnc has this thread dialed in. Hell, I'd probably put ASJ in the Reggie category, and I'd put everybody else he's named into my second and third tiers.

Conceding every one of those guys, I think the point is abundantly clear: True frosh suck, as a general rule. The fact so few exceptions can be named in a 25-year period proves this point beyond debate.

Anybody who thinks Browning would contribute anything in 2015 close to what he would contribute in 2019 deserves another Owen12.
 
How many of those players would have been better in their second year in the program had they spent their first year on the bench and not getting actual game experience?

None.
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Yes, redshirting really seemed to set Lawyer Milloy back.
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You really think he would have been worse in 1993 had he played in 1992? And he left after 4 years.

As good as he was is 1993, I bet if you ask him he will say he would have been even more prepared had he seen the field some in 1992.

 
Reggie, Shaq, Asj, Sankey, Polk, all left early. Add Peters to the mix and it's clear to see the good guys aren't sticking around anyway. Butler and Shelton were the only guys who came back for their senior year who were supremely talented.
 
How many of those players would have been better in their second year in the program had they spent their first year on the bench and not getting actual game experience?

None.
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Yes, redshirting really seemed to set Lawyer Milloy back.
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You really think he would have been worse in 1993 had he played in 1992? And he left after 4 years.

As good as he was is 1993, I bet if you ask him he will say he would have been even more prepared had he seen the field some in 1992.
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Lotta twisting going on here. Ain't complicated. Redshirting hurts nobody. And it helps a lot of guys.
 
How many of those players would have been better in their second year in the program had they spent their first year on the bench and not getting actual game experience?

None.
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Yes, redshirting really seemed to set Lawyer Milloy back.
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You really think he would have been worse in 1993 had he played in 1992? And he left after 4 years.

As good as he was is 1993, I bet if you ask him he will say he would have been even more prepared had he seen the field some in 1992.
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Lotta twisting going on here. Ain't complicated. Redshirting hurts nobody. And it helps a lot of guys.
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No twisting at all. And you are correct it ain't complicated.

I think you honestly think Baker did not help his development by playing last year. You sincerely believe that.

Playing when you have the ability to contribute accelerates your development.

The best players should play.

 
How many of those players would have been better in their second year in the program had they spent their first year on the bench and not getting actual game experience?

None.
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Yes, redshirting really seemed to set Lawyer Milloy back.
Click to expand...

You really think he would have been worse in 1993 had he played in 1992? And he left after 4 years.

As good as he was is 1993, I bet if you ask him he will say he would have been even more prepared had he seen the field some in 1992.
Click to expand...

Lotta twisting going on here. Ain't complicated. Redshirting hurts nobody. And it helps a lot of guys.
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Redshirting hurts your team when players leave without playing their redshirt senior seasons.
 
I never really had an opinion on @RavennaDawg before now...

Now I think 2 things:

1) Ravenna is a nice neighborhood.
2) @RavennaDawg is a serious butt-hurt presser.
 
How many of those players would have been better in their second year in the program had they spent their first year on the bench and not getting actual game experience?

None.
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Yes, redshirting really seemed to set Lawyer Milloy back.
Click to expand...

You really think he would have been worse in 1993 had he played in 1992? And he left after 4 years.

As good as he was is 1993, I bet if you ask him he will say he would have been even more prepared had he seen the field some in 1992.
Click to expand...

Lotta twisting going on here. Ain't complicated. Redshirting hurts nobody. And it helps a lot of guys.
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Redshirting hurts your team when players leave without playing their redshirt senior seasons.
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I agree. Problem is, at UW anyway, this is nearly as rare as the true frosh who doesn't suck. Neither circumstance occurs frequently enough to outweigh the huge systemic benefits of routinely redshirting guys.
 
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