Chevron Deference

[HHusky]

Lazy argument. What is preventing legistlation from being passed? Prior to this, the court decision just allowed Congress to do nothing. Why negotiate anything if the agencies and courts just decided anyways?

Deference could always be overcome, Chevron or no. But the idea that the agency charged with administration of a particular law develops no special expertise is belied by experience.

 

[Sledog]

Lazy argument. What is preventing legistlation from being passed? Prior to this, the court decision just allowed Congress to do nothing. Why negotiate anything if the agencies and courts just decided anyways?

Deference could always be overcome, Chevron or no. But the idea that the agency charged with administration of a particular law develops no special expertise is belied by experience.

But only congress can make laws and the left has been doing it for decades via government agencies. You cheer political operatives being able to write laws without congress. That's not how the constitution works. HTH

 

[HHusky]

Lazy argument. What is preventing legistlation from being passed? Prior to this, the court decision just allowed Congress to do nothing. Why negotiate anything if the agencies and courts just decided anyways?

Deference could always be overcome, Chevron or no. But the idea that the agency charged with administration of a particular law develops no special expertise is belied by experience.

But only congress can make laws and the left has been doing it for decades via government agencies. You cheer political operatives being able to write laws without congress. That's not how the constitution works. HTH

You have always been able to argue and prevail upon showing that an agency had exceeded its authority. Your expertise as a Mall Cop is not equal to that of someone who has worked in the area of law at issue though.

 

[Bob_C]

Lazy argument. What is preventing legistlation from being passed? Prior to this, the court decision just allowed Congress to do nothing. Why negotiate anything if the agencies and courts just decided anyways?

Deference could always be overcome, Chevron or no. But the idea that the agency charged with administration of a particular law develops no special expertise is belied by experience.

But only congress can make laws and the left has been doing it for decades via government agencies. You cheer political operatives being able to write laws without congress. That's not how the constitution works. HTH

I was replying to HH.

 

[EverettChris]

Lazy argument. What is preventing legistlation from being passed? Prior to this, the court decision just allowed Congress to do nothing. Why negotiate anything if the agencies and courts just decided anyways?

Deference could always be overcome, Chevron or no. But the idea that the agency charged with administration of a particular law develops no special expertise is belied by experience.

Svetlana, you do not need to further convince me that you’re for the Statist/Politburo approach to lawmaking. Unelected party apparatchiks are your preferred form of Daddy.

 

[Bob_C]

Lazy argument. What is preventing legistlation from being passed? Prior to this, the court decision just allowed Congress to do nothing. Why negotiate anything if the agencies and courts just decided anyways?

Deference could always be overcome, Chevron or no. But the idea that the agency charged with administration of a particular law develops no special expertise is belied by experience.

Svetlana, you do not need to further convince me that you’re for the Statist/Politburo approach to lawmaking. Unelected party apparatchiks are your preferred form of Daddy.

New negotiating rule, for every new regulation added, one entire DEI department in Federal government gets cut.

 

[WestlinnDuck]

Lazy argument. What is preventing legistlation from being passed? Prior to this, the court decision just allowed Congress to do nothing. Why negotiate anything if the agencies and courts just decided anyways?

Deference could always be overcome, Chevron or no. But the idea that the agency charged with administration of a particular law develops no special expertise is belied by experience.

Yeah, expertise like the CDC? EPA? FDA? DOJ? Using CAFE to ban internal combustion engines for EVs show what source of expertise?

 

[HHusky]

Lazy argument. What is preventing legistlation from being passed? Prior to this, the court decision just allowed Congress to do nothing. Why negotiate anything if the agencies and courts just decided anyways?

Deference could always be overcome, Chevron or no. But the idea that the agency charged with administration of a particular law develops no special expertise is belied by experience.

Yeah, expertise like the CDC? EPA? FDA? DOJ? Using CAFE to ban internal combustion engines for EVs show what source of expertise?

"Throw that damn baby out with the bath water!", shrieked Gasbag.

 

[WestlinnDuck]

Lazy argument. What is preventing legistlation from being passed? Prior to this, the court decision just allowed Congress to do nothing. Why negotiate anything if the agencies and courts just decided anyways?

Deference could always be overcome, Chevron or no. But the idea that the agency charged with administration of a particular law develops no special expertise is belied by experience.

Yeah, expertise like the CDC? EPA? FDA? DOJ? Using CAFE to ban internal combustion engines for EVs show what source of expertise?

"Throw that damn baby out with the bath water!", shrieked Gasbag.

Yeah, sure that's what I said. There is a big difference from banning ICEs through regulation versus the SEC administering the Securities Acts. But it doesn't mean that the SEC can use administrative proceedings to impose fraud penalties when the defendant clearly has a right to a jury trial under the Constitution.

 

[DerekJohnson]

RIP "The Science".

 

[HHusky]

Those complaining about appointed bureaucrats reconciling gaps in the legislation are now thrilled to have appointed judges doing it instead.
congrats

 

[WestlinnDuck]

Those complaining about appointed bureaucrats reconciling gaps in the legislation are now thrilled to have appointed judges doing it instead.
congrats

I thought that it was Congress that passed legislation. The executive branch does not have legislative powers. Other than that, you nailed it.

 

[UW_Doog_Bot]

Lazy argument. What is preventing legistlation from being passed? Prior to this, the court decision just allowed Congress to do nothing. Why negotiate anything if the agencies and courts just decided anyways?

Deference could always be overcome, Chevron or no. But the idea that the agency charged with administration of a particular law develops no special expertise is belied by experience.

Nothing like the "expertise" of ladder climbing swamp creatures am I right?

 

[Goduckies]

Stuff like this is far more important.
And Florida should be happy DeSantis lost because he's doing way more as governor
I guess the president matters on Supreme Court nominations and executive orders and general tone that we aren't some weak ass Hamas supporting bitch state
It's the logical reason to vote for Trump
After last night there isn't even an emotional reason to vote Biden

My biggest worry about Trump is his own errors he has been good this round.... hopefully he keeps it up.

 

[UW_Doog_Bot]

Stuff like this is far more important.
And Florida should be happy DeSantis lost because he's doing way more as governor
I guess the president matters on Supreme Court nominations and executive orders and general tone that we aren't some weak ass Hamas supporting bitch state
It's the logical reason to vote for Trump
After last night there isn't even an emotional reason to vote Biden

My biggest worry about Trump is his own errors he has been good this round.... hopefully he keeps it up.

He's definitely learned a thing or two.
Muting the mics completely backfired on these idiots.

 

[HHusky]

Those complaining about appointed bureaucrats reconciling gaps in the legislation are now thrilled to have appointed judges doing it instead.
congrats

I thought that it was Congress that passed legislation. The executive branch does not have legislative powers. Other than that, you nailed it.

Read it more slowly, Gasbag. Seriously. You flunked out of law school, didn't you?

 

[houseofpain247]

And when Congress doesn't act to fill in the details . . . what?

elect better and more productive congress people? One of the biggest problems in this country is that congress has abdicated their duty to actually pass full legislation.

Filling in the details should not be in the hands of the Supreme Court and it should not be in the hands of unelected regulatory agencies. Congress needs to do their jobs. Yes, legislation will take longer. Yes, it will be harder to pass things. Yes, we'll be better off for it.

 

[HHusky]

And when Congress doesn't act to fill in the details . . . what?

elect better and more productive congress people? One of the biggest problems in this country is that congress has abdicated their duty to actually pass full legislation.

Filling in the details should not be in the hands of the Supreme Court and it should not be in the hands of unelected regulatory agencies. Congress needs to do their jobs. Yes, legislation will take longer. Yes, it will be harder to pass things. Yes, we'll be better off for it.

there are no words

 

[RaceBannon]

As usual for you

 

[WestlinnDuck]

Just don't call the dazzler a fascist. Don't need Congress, just a dementia patient controlled by an unelected cabal.