Ok here is the whole Pac recruiting breakdown by stars. This is players that are actively on the roster. If they left, I filtered them out.
Cc: @CokeGreaterThanPepsi , @89ute
When I see this it makes me realize we still have a lot of room for improvement. It also really pounds home the point that UCLA sucks enormous donkey nuts. They are just a cunt hair behind USC. It's sort of unreal how you can fuck up that much talent. It's like Mora is trying to suck.
Also, we are right in the mix with Oregon and Stanford on a clear second tier. The trick will be getting in between tiers where we pull away from Tree and Oregon, and get within striking distance of USC/UCLA (not going to catch them ever).
It follows with a Twitter argument I've had today with some idiot from Colorado getting pissed off @Dennis_DeYoung for questioning if Colorado can sustain their current success (in true Dennis fashion he said because their fans suck - he's not wrong) ... but they have this belief that if they could win 10 games this year with classes in the 60s they are going to be GREAT now that they have classes in the 30's ... granted their 2017 class ranked 8th in average star rating in the P12 ... not a recipe for success IMO
UCLA is the giant fraud ... it's been documented so many times in so many different ways. It's literally at the point where I think you can honestly conclude and apply the generalization to any UCLA recruit/player that they are charmin soft until proven otherwise.
Stanford has branded themselves very well and their appeal is national ... it's going to allow them to at least sustain where they are at for as long as Shaw is there. I think that there's reason with Shaw to question whether or not he can get Stanford back to being in the elite level of discussion ... but they are UW's primary competition in the North right now.
Oregon will likely stay where they are as long as Nike backs the program ... but they have definitely proven under Helfrich that their house of cards falls apart when they don't have the right coach in place ... SC is the only school in the conference that can still put out reasonably decent seasons when they have a shithead coaching them ... and fortunately for the rest of the conference SC has a propensity to make bad coaching hires. My guess is that Taggert proves that he's not the right coach either and Oregon will start earning the reputation of doing less with more.
If UCLA is the biggest fraud in the conference, ASU isn't that far behind. While their talent level is always going to be behind the LA schools, it is comparable to the next tier in the conference and there's no reason that they can't play at a high level when they get the right coach in place. Problem for them is they rarely get the right coach in place and because of that the kids that go there are more interested in getting STDs than playing football.
The wild cards in the conference to me are Utah and Colorado ... both have the potential to field programs similar to what UW is doing IF they can keep their in-state kids home and find their niche in California. Problem for both schools is that they really don't keep their kids home at high enough rates and they don't have the foothold for various reasons to get into California and Texas at levels that are getting the 1st or 2nd tier kids ... they are often getting the leftovers that the elite schools pick up. While you can still have a good program and win a division or whatnot from time to time, it becomes hard to beat the elite programs in the conference ... particularly when those programs have the right pieces in place.
Arizona, Cal, Oregon St, and Washington St are dumpster fires where recruiting is hard for various reasons.
