I thought so too. After seeing him against Cleveland, I'm not so sure. He looked pretty good. I agree that it is optimistic to think he can stay healthy.
Cavs looked great tonight
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I thought so too. After seeing him against Cleveland, I'm not so sure. He looked pretty good. I agree that it is optimistic to think he can stay healthy.
WilburHooksHands
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Fuck Dallas bro.
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I stand by this. The trades really, really helped Cleveland. I still think the Warriors win rather easily, say 4-1.
allpurpleallgold
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Bold to stand by a statement when both players in question are hurt.
Love's whole season proved he was more or less a huge numbers on a shitty team guy. They have been just fine without him.
Their defense was terrible before getting Mozgov, Shumpert, and Smith.
They should have kept Wiggins
allpurpleallgold
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Or it's impossible for three players to put up big numbers on one team.
If only there was some precedent of Lebron playing with another big numbers power forward and that power forwards numbers immediately going way down.
They've been able to get through the shitty East without love. Big fucking deal.
TierbsHsotBoobs
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But how was I wrong about the Clippers?
You're right. Kevin Love had a great season.
NeedleInTheSky88
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Justin Holiday is gonna lock down LeBron.
allpurpleallgold
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NYBE.
NeedleInTheSky88
New Fish
As a sports bettor, vegas isn't giving the Cavs much of a chance. The series line opened at GS -260. I can't remember the last time a finals series was more than -200. Pretty insane that you can get 2/1 odds on a LeBron James team in the finals.
Tequilla
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What's insane about that?
Outside of LBJ, who the Warriors have about 3-4 guys that they can realistically throw on LBJ for significant minutes, where do the Cavs have any kind of advantage in the series?
Both the Hawks and Bulls had suspect wing players that allowed JR Smith and Shumpert to have big moments. The Warriors can throw wing after wing on the court ... and almost all of them are better than Smith/Shumpert.
If the Cavs go with 2 bigs on the court + LBJ, the Warriors will carve them up. If the Cavs go small to match GS, they lack the explosive abilities to be able keep up.
This series is going 5 games. It may be a relatively close 5 games ... but the Warriors are one of the top 10-15 teams to ever play the game:
In season long point differential per game, they rank 8th all time as one of the 8 teams in the HISTORY of the league to have an average differential of more than 10 points per game. Of the prior 7, 6 of them won the title. The one that didn't (the 71-72 Bucks) lost to the team with the greatest point differential of all time, the 69-13 Lakers.
They won 67 games during this regular season. Only 5 teams in the history of the league have ever won more in a season. 4 of those 5 won a title (the 5th, the 72-73 Celtics lost to the Knicks in 7 who went on to win the NBA Title).
Their 39 wins at home have only been surpassed by the 85-86 Celtics for a better record. The only other teams with 39 home wins in a year were the 95-96 and 96-97 Bulls and the 09 Cavs team that lost to the Magic in the East Finals.
There will be many that look at LBJ and think he can work a miracle. But by almost every metric of dominance, this Warriors team is an all-time great team. A 5 game victory seems very likely.
Pretty much this. LeBron will get his like he always does, but Golden State is really fucking good. They have been the better team all season. They are deeper than Cleveland and they are better coached. The only negative about the Warriors is that sometimes they are careless with the ball.
I know Golden State doesn't have a track record of success, but this is Cleveland. TSIO.
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This will be a huge upset, no doubt about it
It's not talked about much, but Golden State almost traded Klay Thompson for Love. That's the best move they ever made, not only because of Thompson, but because Draymond Green would have been marginalized if Love was traded to the Dubs (ILTCTT).
NeedleInTheSky88
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Sorry I don't think i really explained myself well. I am not surprised by this at all. I think the series betting line is pretty accurate. I just think most people and public bettors will find it insane that they can get the greatest basketball player at better than 2/1 odds. LeBron teams are rarely ever dogs, not to mention 2/1 dogs.
It will be an interesting series. I'm not sure how Cavs will matchup with GS. Cavs will likely play small for most of the series with LeBron at the PF. If I"m the Cavs, I put LeBron on Green, IMO Draymond is the X-Factor that puts the Warriors over the top. Good chance we see LeBron on Curry or Klay late in games.
GS should win the series, and I'd guess in 6 games. The only thing that makes me think the Cavs have a chance is this:
1. They have finals experience, mainly LeBron, whereas I don't think anyone on GS has finals experience.
2. Warriors are a jumpshooting team. Live by the 3....die by the 3.
3. Cavs can hurt Warriors one the glass with Thompson, Mozgov and LeBron Although I'm pretty sure Mozgov will be a non-factor seeing that I doubt he can keep up with the pace that GS will play with. Thompson should clean up on the glass though.