Caple Interview with Petersen

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It was interesting, and I'll give Petersen some credit in that his local interviews have been good and pretty revealing (2024 apple cup pregame).

Some noteworthy points:

He knew Boise was getting roaddawg'd in the Buck'dUp bowl.

He knows that there's a lot of kids killing themselves over money that is not life changing.

He knows that the current system is a house of cards and nobody cares right now because of ratings.

He thinks UW is doing better in terms of football support than the fanbase assumes. wrt the B1G move.

I disagree with him about the super conference. But agree that yeah he is definitely in the mindset where he should not coach anything but middle school/hs football at this point.
 
haie said:
It was interesting, and I'll give Petersen some credit in that his local interviews have been good and pretty revealing (2024 apple cup pregame).

Some noteworthy points:

He knew Boise was getting roaddawg'd in the Buck'dUp bowl.

He knows that there's a lot of kids killing themselves over money that is not life changing.

He knows that the current system is a house of cards and nobody cares right now because of ratings.

He thinks UW is doing better in terms of football support than the fanbase assumes. wrt the B1G move.

I disagree with him about the super conference. But agree that yeah he is definitely in the mindset where he should not coach anything but middle school/hs football at this point.
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I enjoyed the interview too. When he was complimenting uw/Jedd, I wanted to believe him but also remembered him talking about us being in good hands with Jimmy, so…🤷‍♂️
 
Quietcowskee said:
I enjoyed the interview too. When he was complimenting uw/Jedd, I wanted to believe him but also remembered him talking about us being in good hands with Jimmy, so…🤷‍♂️
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He's never going to be honest about any other coach, especially one at Washington, but I can see him genuinely being impressed that Jedd did get the team to stick it out for that game.

Oh yeah, the comment about the 2014 team. They didn't want to do it his way and he actually had sympathy for that?! Crazy.
 
Good interview. There was talk about how college football needs a commissioner and Saban possibly should have been it but I think it should easily be Petersen. No one defended the product of college football when everything came crashing down and the people who drive it are more motivated by money than the magic of the sport. Admins and TV people were all about money. As were the agents that saw the chance to make even more money. The media tied to misguided political interests and the players just along for the ride and to try and make as much money as possible.
 
PurpleThrobber said:
That’s life changing money for 98% of every living person on this planet.
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The fair critique of the Peterlips talk is that okay dude money ruins everything but you made millions per year for years and when players were making nothing. I'm guessing what he means by kind of downplaying that money is that by the time the guys pay off the scumbags who get them the deal, lawyers, and then pay taxes, it's not that much and 99.99% of 18-23 year olds getting that money have wasted it almost instantly.
 
I look at these players getting $500k. How much goes to an agent and how much goes to the various bagmen. And then they’re probably giving some to their families.

Next up you’re paying taxes, I think the bracket for $500k is 26 or 28% (on the plus side, those who pay attention to the tax amounts will hopefully realize taxation is theft - TITTT).

Somewhere between40-50% is gone and the player hasn’t spent anything on himself yet. How many 18-22 years do you know have the discipline to manage that kinda money?

It’s definitely a life changing amount of money but how often will it be a negative change?
 
It's life changing depending on your position and snaps obviously but moreso if you don't spend the money on dumb shit trying to look like Patty Mahomo in college.

Like, IT and Locker were walking around the Hub with a UW sweatshirt on every time.

Any of these kids transferring 2-4 times so that they can save up enough to run their own gym?
 
CFetters_Nacho_Lover said:
I look at these players getting $500k. How much goes to an agent and how much goes to the various bagmen. And then they’re probably giving some to their families.

Next up you’re paying taxes, I think the bracket for $500k is 26 or 28% (on the plus side, those who pay attention to the tax amounts will hopefully realize taxation is theft - TITTT).

Somewhere between40-50% is gone and the player hasn’t spent anything on himself yet. How many 18-22 years do you know have the discipline to manage that kinda money?

It’s definitely a life changing amount of money but how often will it be a negative change?
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Google tells me the NFL and NBA cap agents at 3%. Entertainment is 10-15% and you can also have a manager and lawyers are 5%. I know there's no rules in college so the middle man can take as much as they want and you can have as many as you want. Then, yeah, paying taxes as an independent contractor. I think what Peterman is talking about and probably tells kids that yeah that $275k you end up clearing at 19 that you spend on terrible clothes and a car doesn't add up to much, especially when the vast vast vast majority of these kids aren't making much, if any money as a pro.

Unless you're a very high draft pick in the NFL you have to make it to a second contract or a lot of years in the league to have money to last you for life as a football player and even then you have to be mature enough to be wise with it as a kid in your 20s.
 
PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Easy for multi multi multi millionaires to say hundreds of thousands, or even millions, isnt life changing money for 18-23 year olds.
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This. It's the same with Saban and everyone wanting it and everything else to be like it was 30 years ago. Like most people who aren't the recipients of NIL I don't like NIL and I hate even more the seemingly unlimited transfer game.

But if we're being intellectually honest, players had no agency back then and they are the ones sacrificing their bodies, and most of them do pay a price later on in life. I have injuries from high school that are starting to bother me in my 50s. Imagine 4 years on the Husky turf.

A single million, or anything close to it, for someone in their 20s puts them ahead of people graduating from law school with a job in big law, or from dental school or med school. If they invest it properly from day 1 and don't go buy a fucking car they will be able to retire comfortably even if they don't make a lot of money there on out. It's a huge fucking thing to hand over $1 million to a 21 year old. Even with inflation. Fucking huge.

Not a great take, Pete. Kinda tone deaf.
 
I still shake my head that Peterman thought there would be a market for him to go into businesses and talk about culture. Yeah, multi million and billion dollar companies give a shit about his girl’s soccer dad shtick.
 
WoolleyDoog said:
The fair critique of the Peterlips talk is that okay dude money ruins everything but you made millions per year for years and when players were making nothing. I'm guessing what he means by kind of downplaying that money is that by the time the guys pay off the scumbags who get them the deal, lawyers, and then pay taxes, it's not that much and 99.99% of 18-23 year olds getting that money have wasted it almost instantly.
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He has a point, but a kid sending $25k to their mom isn’t life changing is short sighted. It’s a big deal. I get fans hate that their is no loyalty but if you come from a poor background, which a decent amount of these kids do, it’s life changing for at least a couple of years and I don’t entirely fault them for going with the highest bidder.
 
I’d love for free one transfer. That allows for that under the radar kid to cash in and allows the 5* bust to find ground water. Another transfer allowed if your coach leaves or gets fired. I do love the influx of money. I love that the SEC, OSU and Clemson don’t win every single year. Pay the kids, they’ve earned it, but I’d also love a little continuity as a fan. Butler transferred to UW. Great, he’s ours and he can fight for his market value through some sort of arbitration. What does a starter value, non all league type player make? Great, pay him that. That way UW can’t undercut his value because he’s obligated to remain here. If they truly hate their situation they a transfer for a second time with a one year penalty. The players basically all get 5 years to play now if they want it. Collectively bargain this shit and be done with it all.
 
creepycoug said:
This. It's the same with Saban and everyone wanting it and everything else to be like it was 30 years ago. Like most people who aren't the recipients of NIL I don't like NIL and I hate even more the seemingly unlimited transfer game.

But if we're being intellectually honest, players had no agency back then and they are the ones sacrificing their bodies, and most of them do pay a price later on in life. I have injuries from high school that are starting to bother me in my 50s. Imagine 4 years on the Husky turf.

A single million, or anything close to it, for someone in their 20s puts them ahead of people graduating from law school with a job in big law, or from dental school or med school. If they invest it properly from day 1 and don't go buy a fucking car they will be able to retire comfortably even if they don't make a lot of money there on out. It's a huge fucking thing to hand over $1 million to a 21 year old. Even with inflation. Fucking huge.

Not a great take, Pete. Kinda tone deaf.
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That’s a really big “if”. Bigger than me even.
 
creepycoug said:
100%.

With or without NIL, we? really need to included basic financial management and retirement planning as a core offering. Should probably be available to every student but for sure this population.
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An iron clad retirement account for these kids would be optimal. If they’re going to make after taxes, let’s say, $1 million during their five year career in college, half of that socked away for them would be a pretty awesome start to adult life. Took me 20 years to put away 500K. Also 100K per year for five years is still enough to have a really, really great time in college.
 
theknowledge said:
An iron clad retirement account for these kids would be optimal. If they’re going to make after taxes, let’s say, $1 million during their five year career in college, half of that socked away for them would be a pretty awesome start to adult life. Took me 20 years to put away 500K. Also 100K per year for five years is still enough to have a really, really great time in college.
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Was going to say something like this. Wasn't UW trying to do something like this in the Lake years and they were getting outrecruited by everyone, even the Coug because of it?
 
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