Is this Ukraine things still on? I notice there are hardly any Ukraine flags being shown these days by the Facebook and Twitter warriors.
They’re mainly Hamas fans now judging by flags.
They’re mainly Hamas fans now judging by flags.
Christ, you nailed everything besides the Trump and Biden factors.Ukraine, a poor medium sized Eastern European country, equipped with old Western equipment and Western intel (Palantir, advising, etc.) is currently fending off what many claimed to be the 2nd most powerful military on earth…Russia. With no US boots on the ground.
What if Russia had rolled over Ukraine, formally annexed Georgia, Khazakstan, your favorite MOLDOVA, and a few more such states? Emboldened and with an Alliance with China, it's Russia against Europe and China launching ships and missiles at Taiwan.
This was a fear of NATO for a while, and a legit one. Why do you think countries like Estonia, Latvia, and Poland joined? They hate Russia - that's why. It's why Turkey and their Muslim politics would rather be pals with France and Germany than Russia. Finland and Sweden? They saw the Ukraine situation and said fuck that, we'd rather be safe than sorry.
The Russia that is bogged down in Eastern Ukraine right now is not the Russia of that timeline. It is severely, severely neutered. And, even in that timeline, Russia would likely have done some half assed plan. But US and NATO soldiers would be doing the fighting and dying.
China is watching with fascination and learning a lot, just as the US and friends are. India too - they buy tons of Russia military shit - the kind that is going poof and gurgle against quite basic and old Western shit. And cheap Ukrainian sea drones, which are proving to be a BIG problem for the Russian navy.
Encouraging or trivializing territory expansion from Russia is bad US foreign policy. It just is.
These guys leveled Grozny and their Muslim population in the 90s. Supported Serbian craziness too. Invaded Georgia in 2008. Took a bite out of Ukraine in 2014 while Obama watched with his thumb up his ass and did nothing. Merkel and the lot too.
In comes Trump. Don't fuck with US, and pay up NATO, is made official policy. Iranian generals go poof. Putin doesn't do shit.
In comes Biden. Feeble. Internationally corrupt. Buddies with China and Ukraine, but doesn't really have much teeth. Abortion of a withdrawal from Afghanistan.
Hey, why don't we invade now? Says Putin. Shit will be easy, Ukraine really doesn't know what they are doing and our airborne troops will surround their capital city.
Two years later, even with sorry ass Biden in office, and Russia still is fighting tooth and nail for some towns on the border at huge losses.
All of this TL,DR shit is to say that Russia was taught a brutal lesson in the difference of NATO training standards, equipment, and command structure - even when the actual soldiers are Ukrainians empowered by centuries old hatred of Russia.
Hell, most of the initial Ukrainian troops weren't even NATO trained. They just happened to have this amazing 80s tech called javelins. The Russians are the ones deciding miles long columns of tanks and fuel tankers was the way to go.
Contrary to your curated Facebook and Twitter feed, this war is happening full throttle, and you're a retard for suggesting otherwise.Is this Ukraine things still on? I notice there are hardly any Ukraine flags being shown these days by the Facebook and Twitter warriors.
They’re mainly Hamas fans now judging by flags.
This is an awful war of attrition between a depressed, ravaged, but motivated Ukraine defending their homeland against an unmotivated mobik meat wave with nearly endless meat, but not endless supplies. Russia is being bled with 1000+ casualties a day and losing armaments far faster than they can replace them. But it's going to take time for the meat waves and the stockpiles to wane. Years. The only thing that prevents Russia's aims is continued support. They've barely moved the front line since 2022 because of Western support, not in spite of it. End that support, end Ukraine, get ready for NATO vs. an emboldened Russia/China/NK/Iran axis of power. Then we can talk about the money we should have spent to prevent it. I'll be here to remind you when that happens. This is pennies on the dollar right now.can I get an update on this?
How much money spent and has Ukraine won yet?
Does Ty just need more time to get his recruits in the lineup?
You asked.So it’s going to continue to be expensive and Ty just needs more time.
Got it
a border wall costs more than what we’re funding in Ukraine?You asked.So it’s going to continue to be expensive and Ty just needs more time.
Got it
This is cheap as fuck relative to what you're asking for.
Look beyond your nose.
What cost are we avoiding by funding this clusterfuck that is unwinnable? Be specific.You asked.So it’s going to continue to be expensive and Ty just needs more time.
Got it
This is cheap as fuck relative to what you're asking for.
Look beyond your nose.
An emboldened Russia with a larger threatened NATO border, an emboldened China re: Taiwan, NK and Iran supplying more weapons/threats and spreading influence with aims of their own. Africa.What cost are we avoiding by funding this clusterfuck that is unwinnable? Be specific.You asked.So it’s going to continue to be expensive and Ty just needs more time.
Got it
This is cheap as fuck relative to what you're asking for.
Look beyond your nose.
Surprised we are not since we are turning communist with the Biden admin. Seems he'd want to prop up a nearby red.Why aren’t we going into Venezuela to preserve DeMoCrACy?
We have a NATO border. NATO decided to enlarge it last year also.An emboldened Russia with a larger threatened NATO border, an emboldened China re: Taiwan, NK and Iran supplying more weapons/threats and spreading influence with aims of their own. Africa.What cost are we avoiding by funding this clusterfuck that is unwinnable? Be specific.You asked.So it’s going to continue to be expensive and Ty just needs more time.
Got it
This is cheap as fuck relative to what you're asking for.
Look beyond your nose.
This growing axis of power is a real threat, globally.
Security costs money. Weak security can cost much much more.
Must I explain this like you're five? I'm not here to hold your dainty little hand, Bobby. You got this.
This thread needs to be unpinned and the impending Israel vs Iran war can take its place.Is this Ukraine things still on? I notice there are hardly any Ukraine flags being shown these days by the Facebook and Twitter warriors.
They’re mainly Hamas fans now judging by flags.
Why not both? Three?This thread needs to be unpinned and the impending Israel vs Iran war can take its place.Is this Ukraine things still on? I notice there are hardly any Ukraine flags being shown these days by the Facebook and Twitter warriors.
They’re mainly Hamas fans now judging by flags.