Can we offer this Ukranian solider a scholarship?

[Bob_C]

No one cares about this stalemate any more

So are you finally done pumping that money-laundering, lost-cause, corrupt war?

It wasnt a lost cause

Ukraine still exists with 75% of their land under their control

Russia was exposed as a circus, and the US got incredible intel watching them go full WW1 in embarassing fashion

Seems like a W for the USA

You may be[/s] are clearly and unequivocally the dumbest person on these boreds.

Losing 25% of a nation's land is a victory in your childish mind.

Keep wearing that helmet, Retard.

For Ukrainians? Maybe, maybe not, depends on how you look at it.

For Russia? Massive L.

For the US at a geopolitical and strategic level? Unequivocally a massive W.[/b]

Probably deterred the invasion of Taiwan if nothing else.

Definitely revitalized NATO at an existential level which "isn't" important until it is.

I could list, and already did for our regular readers, at least 10 ways in which it is for the US.

None of that means there shouldn't be better oversight, transparency, and accountability in the US military industrial complex. It's possible to be for both even though some in the Tug can't seem to fathom that.

Unable to achieve its stated objectives of getting Russia out of Ukraine is not a W.

 

[WestlinnDuck]

No one cares about this stalemate any more

So are you finally done pumping that money-laundering, lost-cause, corrupt war?

It wasnt a lost cause

Ukraine still exists with 75% of their land under their control

Russia was exposed as a circus, and the US got incredible intel watching them go full WW1 in embarassing fashion

Seems like a W for the USA

You may be[/s] are clearly and unequivocally the dumbest person on these boreds.

Losing 25% of a nation's land is a victory in your childish mind.

Keep wearing that helmet, Retard.

For Ukrainians? Maybe, maybe not, depends on how you look at it.

For Russia? Massive L.

For the US at a geopolitical and strategic level? Unequivocally a massive W.[/b]

Probably deterred the invasion of Taiwan if nothing else.

Definitely revitalized NATO at an existential level which "isn't" important until it is.

I could list, and already did for our regular readers, at least 10 ways in which it is for the US.

None of that means there shouldn't be better oversight, transparency, and accountability in the US military industrial complex. It's possible to be for both even though some in the Tug can't seem to fathom that.

Unable to achieve its stated objectives of getting Russia out of Ukraine is not a W.

We argued a settlement conceding territory that Russia had in possession plus no Ukraine in NATO. PGOS was arguing spring offensive and getting Russia out of the Ukraine. We could have had a deal before the new Russian invasion but our MIC and our eternal warriors in both parties voted for war. Meanwhile, the chicoms and Cho Bai Den smile.

 

[UW_Doog_Bot]

No one cares about this stalemate any more

So are you finally done pumping that money-laundering, lost-cause, corrupt war?

It wasnt a lost cause

Ukraine still exists with 75% of their land under their control

Russia was exposed as a circus, and the US got incredible intel watching them go full WW1 in embarassing fashion

Seems like a W for the USA

You may be[/s] are clearly and unequivocally the dumbest person on these boreds.

Losing 25% of a nation's land is a victory in your childish mind.

Keep wearing that helmet, Retard.

For Ukrainians? Maybe, maybe not, depends on how you look at it.

For Russia? Massive L.

For the US at a geopolitical and strategic level? Unequivocally a massive W.[/b]

Probably deterred the invasion of Taiwan if nothing else.

Definitely revitalized NATO at an existential level which "isn't" important until it is.

I could list, and already did for our regular readers, at least 10 ways in which it is for the US.

None of that means there shouldn't be better oversight, transparency, and accountability in the US military industrial complex. It's possible to be for both even though some in the Tug can't seem to fathom that.

Unable to achieve its stated objectives of getting Russia out of Ukraine is not a W.

Have you been reading my stuff or not? That's 100% not the actual objective.

 

[UW_Doog_Bot]

No one cares about this stalemate any more

So are you finally done pumping that money-laundering, lost-cause, corrupt war?

It wasnt a lost cause

Ukraine still exists with 75% of their land under their control

Russia was exposed as a circus, and the US got incredible intel watching them go full WW1 in embarassing fashion

Seems like a W for the USA

You may be[/s] are clearly and unequivocally the dumbest person on these boreds.

Losing 25% of a nation's land is a victory in your childish mind.

Keep wearing that helmet, Retard.

For Ukrainians? Maybe, maybe not, depends on how you look at it.

For Russia? Massive L.

For the US at a geopolitical and strategic level? Unequivocally a massive W.[/b]

Probably deterred the invasion of Taiwan if nothing else.

Definitely revitalized NATO at an existential level which "isn't" important until it is.

I could list, and already did for our regular readers, at least 10 ways in which it is for the US.

None of that means there shouldn't be better oversight, transparency, and accountability in the US military industrial complex. It's possible to be for both even though some in the Tug can't seem to fathom that.

Unable to achieve its stated objectives of getting Russia out of Ukraine is not a W.

We argued a settlement conceding territory that Russia had in possession plus no Ukraine in NATO. PGOS was arguing spring offensive and getting Russia out of the Ukraine. We could have had a deal before the new Russian invasion but our MIC and our eternal warriors in both parties voted for war. Meanwhile, the chicoms and Cho Bai Den smile.

Why does the US want one of it's major enemies to have a settled peace instead of a bloody meat grinding stalemate they can't escape from?

You guysm switch between "Ukrainians are Nazis!" And "We need peace to save lives!" So fast I can't keep up.

 

[Bob_C]

No one cares about this stalemate any more

So are you finally done pumping that money-laundering, lost-cause, corrupt war?

It wasnt a lost cause

Ukraine still exists with 75% of their land under their control

Russia was exposed as a circus, and the US got incredible intel watching them go full WW1 in embarassing fashion

Seems like a W for the USA

You may be[/s] are clearly and unequivocally the dumbest person on these boreds.

Losing 25% of a nation's land is a victory in your childish mind.

Keep wearing that helmet, Retard.

For Ukrainians? Maybe, maybe not, depends on how you look at it.

For Russia? Massive L.

For the US at a geopolitical and strategic level? Unequivocally a massive W.[/b]

Probably deterred the invasion of Taiwan if nothing else.

Definitely revitalized NATO at an existential level which "isn't" important until it is.

I could list, and already did for our regular readers, at least 10 ways in which it is for the US.

None of that means there shouldn't be better oversight, transparency, and accountability in the US military industrial complex. It's possible to be for both even though some in the Tug can't seem to fathom that.

Unable to achieve its stated objectives of getting Russia out of Ukraine is not a W.

Have you been reading my stuff or not? That's 100% not the actual objective.

It may not be the objective in reality, but it's the objective that has been sold to the public.

 

[WestlinnDuck]

Because the Ukraine isn't a priority over our southern border. Why are you and PGOS so concerned about a much more minor threat to us than either the chicoms or are internal open border enemies? America World Police hasn't worked out worth a damn since a draw in Korea because a strong American president (Ike) scared the sh*t out of Russia and particularly China. Why take the draw and leave Russia and China with control of North Korea? If keeping European Ukraine out of the hands of the Russians is important, let the Euros deal with it. When your team declares whatever it takes for however long it takes and the stated goal is to remove a nuclear power from all of the Ukraine including the Crimea I want something a little more specific. Our team hasn't switched. Our team could have saved lives and the Ukrainians are not democrats and do have lots of Nazis. The Russians are not democrats and have lots of commies. Your team is the one that told us it was about "democracy".

 

[Bob_C]

No one cares about this stalemate any more

So are you finally done pumping that money-laundering, lost-cause, corrupt war?

It wasnt a lost cause

Ukraine still exists with 75% of their land under their control

Russia was exposed as a circus, and the US got incredible intel watching them go full WW1 in embarassing fashion

Seems like a W for the USA

You may be[/s] are clearly and unequivocally the dumbest person on these boreds.

Losing 25% of a nation's land is a victory in your childish mind.

Keep wearing that helmet, Retard.

For Ukrainians? Maybe, maybe not, depends on how you look at it.

For Russia? Massive L.

For the US at a geopolitical and strategic level? Unequivocally a massive W.[/b]

Probably deterred the invasion of Taiwan if nothing else.

Definitely revitalized NATO at an existential level which "isn't" important until it is.

I could list, and already did for our regular readers, at least 10 ways in which it is for the US.

None of that means there shouldn't be better oversight, transparency, and accountability in the US military industrial complex. It's possible to be for both even though some in the Tug can't seem to fathom that.

Unable to achieve its stated objectives of getting Russia out of Ukraine is not a W.

We argued a settlement conceding territory that Russia had in possession plus no Ukraine in NATO. PGOS was arguing spring offensive and getting Russia out of the Ukraine. We could have had a deal before the new Russian invasion but our MIC and our eternal warriors in both parties voted for war. Meanwhile, the chicoms and Cho Bai Den smile.

Why does the US want one of it's major enemies to have a settled peace instead of a bloody meat grinding stalemate they can't escape from?

You guysm switch between "Ukrainians are Nazis!" And "We need peace to save lives!" So fast I can't keep up.

Why specifically are they a major enemy?

 

[WestlinnDuck]

No one cares about this stalemate any more

So are you finally done pumping that money-laundering, lost-cause, corrupt war?

It wasnt a lost cause

Ukraine still exists with 75% of their land under their control

Russia was exposed as a circus, and the US got incredible intel watching them go full WW1 in embarassing fashion

Seems like a W for the USA

You may be[/s] are clearly and unequivocally the dumbest person on these boreds.

Losing 25% of a nation's land is a victory in your childish mind.

Keep wearing that helmet, Retard.

For Ukrainians? Maybe, maybe not, depends on how you look at it.

For Russia? Massive L.

For the US at a geopolitical and strategic level? Unequivocally a massive W.[/b]

Probably deterred the invasion of Taiwan if nothing else.

Definitely revitalized NATO at an existential level which "isn't" important until it is.

I could list, and already did for our regular readers, at least 10 ways in which it is for the US.

None of that means there shouldn't be better oversight, transparency, and accountability in the US military industrial complex. It's possible to be for both even though some in the Tug can't seem to fathom that.

Unable to achieve its stated objectives of getting Russia out of Ukraine is not a W.

We argued a settlement conceding territory that Russia had in possession plus no Ukraine in NATO. PGOS was arguing spring offensive and getting Russia out of the Ukraine. We could have had a deal before the new Russian invasion but our MIC and our eternal warriors in both parties voted for war. Meanwhile, the chicoms and Cho Bai Den smile.

Why does the US want one of it's major enemies to have a settled peace instead of a bloody meat grinding stalemate they can't escape from?

You guysm switch between "Ukrainians are Nazis!" And "We need peace to save lives!" So fast I can't keep up.

Why specifically are they a major enemy?

That's my point. Our two biggest enemies are the chicoms and the dems and their allies. Russia currently threaten our public education system? They involved with fentanyl and human trafficking and turning the US into the world's biggest welfare magnet?

 

[PostGameOrangeSlices]

No one cares about this stalemate any more

So are you finally done pumping that money-laundering, lost-cause, corrupt war?

It wasnt a lost cause

Ukraine still exists with 75% of their land under their control

Russia was exposed as a circus, and the US got incredible intel watching them go full WW1 in embarassing fashion

Seems like a W for the USA

You may be[/s] are clearly and unequivocally the dumbest person on these boreds.

Losing 25% of a nation's land is a victory in your childish mind.

Keep wearing that helmet, Retard.

For Ukrainians? Maybe, maybe not, depends on how you look at it.

For Russia? Massive L.

For the US at a geopolitical and strategic level? Unequivocally a massive W.[/b]

Probably deterred the invasion of Taiwan if nothing else.

Definitely revitalized NATO at an existential level which "isn't" important until it is.

I could list, and already did for our regular readers, at least 10 ways in which it is for the US.

None of that means there shouldn't be better oversight, transparency, and accountability in the US military industrial complex. It's possible to be for both even though some in the Tug can't seem to fathom that.

Unable to achieve its stated objectives of getting Russia out of Ukraine is not a W.

We argued a settlement conceding territory that Russia had in possession plus no Ukraine in NATO. PGOS was arguing spring offensive and getting Russia out of the Ukraine. We could have had a deal before the new Russian invasion but our MIC and our eternal warriors in both parties voted for war. Meanwhile, the chicoms and Cho Bai Den smile.

I was hoping Ukraine would be able to do more on the offensive, but this war has literally been a trench lined shitshow with no gains by either side for a year.

Its time to hang up the cleats. Russia gets the shit they managed to grab. Ukraine joins NATO and ensures this doesnt occur again

With any luck Putin dies soon and Russians form a real government.

History says they don't, but one can hope.

No one wants Russia to be an enemy. I love Russian food, they have an interesting country and culture, hot women. Would like to visit.

They make themselves an enemy for no reason.

 

[Bob_C]

No one cares about this stalemate any more

So are you finally done pumping that money-laundering, lost-cause, corrupt war?

It wasnt a lost cause

Ukraine still exists with 75% of their land under their control

Russia was exposed as a circus, and the US got incredible intel watching them go full WW1 in embarassing fashion

Seems like a W for the USA

You may be[/s] are clearly and unequivocally the dumbest person on these boreds.

Losing 25% of a nation's land is a victory in your childish mind.

Keep wearing that helmet, Retard.

For Ukrainians? Maybe, maybe not, depends on how you look at it.

For Russia? Massive L.

For the US at a geopolitical and strategic level? Unequivocally a massive W.[/b]

Probably deterred the invasion of Taiwan if nothing else.

Definitely revitalized NATO at an existential level which "isn't" important until it is.

I could list, and already did for our regular readers, at least 10 ways in which it is for the US.

None of that means there shouldn't be better oversight, transparency, and accountability in the US military industrial complex. It's possible to be for both even though some in the Tug can't seem to fathom that.

Unable to achieve its stated objectives of getting Russia out of Ukraine is not a W.

We argued a settlement conceding territory that Russia had in possession plus no Ukraine in NATO. PGOS was arguing spring offensive and getting Russia out of the Ukraine. We could have had a deal before the new Russian invasion but our MIC and our eternal warriors in both parties voted for war. Meanwhile, the chicoms and Cho Bai Den smile.

I was hoping Ukraine would be able to do more on the offensive, but this war has literally been a trench lined shitshow with no gains by either side for a year.

Its time to hang up the cleats. Russia gets the shit they managed to grab. Ukraine joins NATO and ensures this doesnt occur again[/b]

With any luck Putin dies soon and Russians form a real government.

History says they don't, but one can hope.

No one wants Russia to be an enemy. I love Russian food, they have an interesting country and culture, hot women. Would like to visit.

They make themselves an enemy for no reason.

Russia isn't taking that deal. They want no NATO in Ukraine and have been telling you that for years before this war.

 

[PostGameOrangeSlices]

No one cares about this stalemate any more

So are you finally done pumping that money-laundering, lost-cause, corrupt war?

It wasnt a lost cause

Ukraine still exists with 75% of their land under their control

Russia was exposed as a circus, and the US got incredible intel watching them go full WW1 in embarassing fashion

Seems like a W for the USA

You may be[/s] are clearly and unequivocally the dumbest person on these boreds.

Losing 25% of a nation's land is a victory in your childish mind.

Keep wearing that helmet, Retard.

For Ukrainians? Maybe, maybe not, depends on how you look at it.

For Russia? Massive L.

For the US at a geopolitical and strategic level? Unequivocally a massive W.[/b]

Probably deterred the invasion of Taiwan if nothing else.

Definitely revitalized NATO at an existential level which "isn't" important until it is.

I could list, and already did for our regular readers, at least 10 ways in which it is for the US.

None of that means there shouldn't be better oversight, transparency, and accountability in the US military industrial complex. It's possible to be for both even though some in the Tug can't seem to fathom that.

Unable to achieve its stated objectives of getting Russia out of Ukraine is not a W.

We argued a settlement conceding territory that Russia had in possession plus no Ukraine in NATO. PGOS was arguing spring offensive and getting Russia out of the Ukraine. We could have had a deal before the new Russian invasion but our MIC and our eternal warriors in both parties voted for war. Meanwhile, the chicoms and Cho Bai Den smile.

I was hoping Ukraine would be able to do more on the offensive, but this war has literally been a trench lined shitshow with no gains by either side for a year.

Its time to hang up the cleats. Russia gets the shit they managed to grab. Ukraine joins NATO and ensures this doesnt occur again[/b]

With any luck Putin dies soon and Russians form a real government.

History says they don't, but one can hope.

No one wants Russia to be an enemy. I love Russian food, they have an interesting country and culture, hot women. Would like to visit.

They make themselves an enemy for no reason.

Russia isn't taking that deal. They want no NATO in Ukraine and have been telling you that for years before this war.

They didnt want NATO in Sweden and Finland, or the Baltics, either. And here we are.

This war isnt about NATO. It's about being stuck in a medieval mindset where countries conquer each other for land.

Not even Khazakstan likes Russia anymore. Friendless in their sphere of influence.

 

[Bob_C]

No one cares about this stalemate any more

So are you finally done pumping that money-laundering, lost-cause, corrupt war?

It wasnt a lost cause

Ukraine still exists with 75% of their land under their control

Russia was exposed as a circus, and the US got incredible intel watching them go full WW1 in embarassing fashion

Seems like a W for the USA

You may be[/s] are clearly and unequivocally the dumbest person on these boreds.

Losing 25% of a nation's land is a victory in your childish mind.

Keep wearing that helmet, Retard.

For Ukrainians? Maybe, maybe not, depends on how you look at it.

For Russia? Massive L.

For the US at a geopolitical and strategic level? Unequivocally a massive W.[/b]

Probably deterred the invasion of Taiwan if nothing else.

Definitely revitalized NATO at an existential level which "isn't" important until it is.

I could list, and already did for our regular readers, at least 10 ways in which it is for the US.

None of that means there shouldn't be better oversight, transparency, and accountability in the US military industrial complex. It's possible to be for both even though some in the Tug can't seem to fathom that.

Unable to achieve its stated objectives of getting Russia out of Ukraine is not a W.

We argued a settlement conceding territory that Russia had in possession plus no Ukraine in NATO. PGOS was arguing spring offensive and getting Russia out of the Ukraine. We could have had a deal before the new Russian invasion but our MIC and our eternal warriors in both parties voted for war. Meanwhile, the chicoms and Cho Bai Den smile.

I was hoping Ukraine would be able to do more on the offensive, but this war has literally been a trench lined shitshow with no gains by either side for a year.

Its time to hang up the cleats. Russia gets the shit they managed to grab. Ukraine joins NATO and ensures this doesnt occur again[/b]

With any luck Putin dies soon and Russians form a real government.

History says they don't, but one can hope.

No one wants Russia to be an enemy. I love Russian food, they have an interesting country and culture, hot women. Would like to visit.

They make themselves an enemy for no reason.

Russia isn't taking that deal. They want no NATO in Ukraine and have been telling you that for years before this war.

They didnt want NATO in Sweden and Finland, or the Baltics, either. And here we are.

This war isnt about NATO. It's about being stuck in a medieval mindset where countries conquer each other for land.

Not even Khazakstan likes Russia anymore. Friendless in their sphere of influence.

What the fuck are you talking about, of course this was about NATO. They didn't threaten to invade those countries if they joined. Russia's stated red line from 2008 was Ukraine and Georgia. Insane or not that is reality.

 

[UW_Doog_Bot]

No one cares about this stalemate any more

So are you finally done pumping that money-laundering, lost-cause, corrupt war?

It wasnt a lost cause

Ukraine still exists with 75% of their land under their control

Russia was exposed as a circus, and the US got incredible intel watching them go full WW1 in embarassing fashion

Seems like a W for the USA

You may be[/s] are clearly and unequivocally the dumbest person on these boreds.

Losing 25% of a nation's land is a victory in your childish mind.

Keep wearing that helmet, Retard.

For Ukrainians? Maybe, maybe not, depends on how you look at it.

For Russia? Massive L.

For the US at a geopolitical and strategic level? Unequivocally a massive W.[/b]

Probably deterred the invasion of Taiwan if nothing else.

Definitely revitalized NATO at an existential level which "isn't" important until it is.

I could list, and already did for our regular readers, at least 10 ways in which it is for the US.

None of that means there shouldn't be better oversight, transparency, and accountability in the US military industrial complex. It's possible to be for both even though some in the Tug can't seem to fathom that.

Unable to achieve its stated objectives of getting Russia out of Ukraine is not a W.

We argued a settlement conceding territory that Russia had in possession plus no Ukraine in NATO. PGOS was arguing spring offensive and getting Russia out of the Ukraine. We could have had a deal before the new Russian invasion but our MIC and our eternal warriors in both parties voted for war. Meanwhile, the chicoms and Cho Bai Den smile.

I was hoping Ukraine would be able to do more on the offensive, but this war has literally been a trench lined shitshow with no gains by either side for a year.

Its time to hang up the cleats. Russia gets the shit they managed to grab. Ukraine joins NATO and ensures this doesnt occur again[/b]

With any luck Putin dies soon and Russians form a real government.

History says they don't, but one can hope.

No one wants Russia to be an enemy. I love Russian food, they have an interesting country and culture, hot women. Would like to visit.

They make themselves an enemy for no reason.

Russia isn't taking that deal. They want no NATO in Ukraine and have been telling you that for years before this war.

They didnt want NATO in Sweden and Finland, or the Baltics, either. And here we are.

This war isnt about NATO. It's about being stuck in a medieval mindset where countries conquer each other for land.

Not even Khazakstan likes Russia anymore. Friendless in their sphere of influence.

What the fuck are you talking about, of course this was about NATO. They didn't threaten to invade those countries if they joined. Russia's stated red line from 2008 was Ukraine and Georgia. Insane or not that is reality.

Why isn't Canada or Mexico itching to join the CSTO?

There's a reason NATO is popular in former Soviet Republics...spoiler...it's because Russia likes to invade it's neighbors.

Even the current Russian Federation wouldn't exist without explicit and ongoing brutal colonialism. There's a reason Putin is sending ethnic minorities to die in the trenches of Ukraine.

 

[UW_Doog_Bot]

Because the Ukraine isn't a priority over our southern border. Why are you and PGOS so concerned about a much more minor threat to us than either the chicoms or are internal open border enemies? America World Police hasn't worked out worth a damn since a draw in Korea because a strong American president (Ike) scared the sh*t out of Russia and particularly China. Why take the draw and leave Russia and China with control of North Korea? If keeping European Ukraine out of the hands of the Russians is important, let the Euros deal with it. When your team declares whatever it takes for however long it takes and the stated goal is to remove a nuclear power from all of the Ukraine including the Crimea I want something a little more specific. Our team hasn't switched. Our team could have saved lives and the Ukrainians are not democrats and do have lots of Nazis. The Russians are not democrats and have lots of commies. Your team is the one that told us it was about "democracy".

Something something ass fucking strawman something something.

You should read my shit fucko before thinking I'm some brain dead this is teh current thing. I'm FOR a secure border[/b] AND a rules based WESTERN world based on classical liberalism. That doesn't mean I need to defend every brain dead talking point from the Ukrainian Flag twitter biosphere.

Anyways, I don't subscribe to groupthink or "teams" like that. I thought that was what the left was for, collectivism. I'm for liberty and freedom of conscience.

 

[UW_Doog_Bot]

No one cares about this stalemate any more

So are you finally done pumping that money-laundering, lost-cause, corrupt war?

It wasnt a lost cause

Ukraine still exists with 75% of their land under their control

Russia was exposed as a circus, and the US got incredible intel watching them go full WW1 in embarassing fashion

Seems like a W for the USA

You may be[/s] are clearly and unequivocally the dumbest person on these boreds.

Losing 25% of a nation's land is a victory in your childish mind.

Keep wearing that helmet, Retard.

For Ukrainians? Maybe, maybe not, depends on how you look at it.

For Russia? Massive L.

For the US at a geopolitical and strategic level? Unequivocally a massive W.[/b]

Probably deterred the invasion of Taiwan if nothing else.

Definitely revitalized NATO at an existential level which "isn't" important until it is.

I could list, and already did for our regular readers, at least 10 ways in which it is for the US.

None of that means there shouldn't be better oversight, transparency, and accountability in the US military industrial complex. It's possible to be for both even though some in the Tug can't seem to fathom that.

Unable to achieve its stated objectives of getting Russia out of Ukraine is not a W.

We argued a settlement conceding territory that Russia had in possession plus no Ukraine in NATO. PGOS was arguing spring offensive and getting Russia out of the Ukraine. We could have had a deal before the new Russian invasion but our MIC and our eternal warriors in both parties voted for war. Meanwhile, the chicoms and Cho Bai Den smile.

Why does the US want one of it's major enemies to have a settled peace instead of a bloody meat grinding stalemate they can't escape from?

You guysm switch between "Ukrainians are Nazis!" And "We need peace to save lives!" So fast I can't keep up.

Why specifically are they a major enemy?

You mean besides explicitly stating that in collaboration with the CCP they want to overthrow the US as a global power and upend the western world order? That thing they explicitly stated long before the current Ukrainian conflict?

I could list idk, maybe 20-30 things Russia does on a regular basis to undermine the US off the top of my head. No Google needed. Let's try!

1. Funding hard leftist organizations like the New Dawn in the US to push political division and internal strife.
2. Pushing propaganda like "fracking causes unsustainable environmental harm" to destroy US energy production(they succeeded in Europe btw).
3. Running troll farms to literally just make Americans pissed off at eachother(A Prigozhin specialty RIP)
4. Spreading anti-vax propaganda for things like measles, mumps, and rubella to increase childhood deaths in the US
5. Funding anti-American politicians in South America and the Caribbean
6. Propping up dictators like Maduro with literal Wagner military forces
7. Yes, they are in fact involved in the fentanyl trade(not as big as the CCP but still)
8. Funding and propping up anti-American dictators in Africa (There's like almost 10 of these but I won't cheat and name each one)
9. Steele Dossier disinformation was provided to the Dems basically on request
10. Did I mention they also push and fund secessionist movements within the US on both sides of the political isle?
11. Russia actually regularly comes into our arctic economic zones with military assets to push our fishermen and oil exploration out (Trump put a stop to this, guess who let them start again?)
12. Helping Iran get around US led sanctions
13. Helping North Korea develop a nuclear weapon (allegedly but c'mon man!)
14. Funding anti-American/anti-NATO groups in Europe
15. Specifically pushing the boundaries of non-proliferation treaties
16. Blowing shit up in space as a denial of space action(pun intended)
17. Syria..do we need to get into all the details? It ended with a bunch of Wagnerites getting fucking smoked by the US Air Assets.
18. Massive online state sponsored hacking presence second only to China, I literally get briefed at work on it for cybersecurity
19. Speaking of cybersecurity, did I mention they target our critical infrastructure? You know...just in case
20. Backwards engineering our defense tech and then selling it to our enemies such as ChY-na
21. Specifically selling assets to undermine American "interference" like selling S400 systems to Syria which were basically only good for trying to fight US assets
22. Engaging in bribery and influence peddling within our own establishment, why do you think such luminaries as Killary, Obama, and John Kerry were for a "reset" in relations?
23. Helping to arm insurgents in Iraq and Afghanistan with old soviet surplus
24. Selling Soviet surplus to the Cartels

Basically since Putin consolidated power it serves him to re-use the old Soviet propaganda that the West is the boogeyman and to have an adversarial relationship.

Again, they explicitly state we are the enemy[/i]. It's neat that so many here think there's some live and let live world beyond our borders but that's not at all how this works.

Edit: Also FRANNY?! goodnight for tonight and good luck out there folks.

 

[TurdBomber]

No one cares about this stalemate any more

So are you finally done pumping that money-laundering, lost-cause, corrupt war?

It wasnt a lost cause

Ukraine still exists with 75% of their land under their control

Russia was exposed as a circus, and the US got incredible intel watching them go full WW1 in embarassing fashion

Seems like a W for the USA

You may be[/s] are clearly and unequivocally the dumbest person on these boreds.

Losing 25% of a nation's land is a victory in your childish mind.

Keep wearing that helmet, Retard.

For Ukrainians? Maybe, maybe not, depends on how you look at it.

For Russia? Massive L.

For the US at a geopolitical and strategic level? Unequivocally a massive W.[/b]

Probably deterred the invasion of Taiwan if nothing else.

Definitely revitalized NATO at an existential level which "isn't" important until it is.

I could list, and already did for our regular readers, at least 10 ways in which it is for the US.

None of that means there shouldn't be better oversight, transparency, and accountability in the US military industrial complex. It's possible to be for both even though some in the Tug can't seem to fathom that.

Unable to achieve its stated objectives of getting Russia out of Ukraine is not a W.

We argued a settlement conceding territory that Russia had in possession plus no Ukraine in NATO. PGOS was arguing spring offensive and getting Russia out of the Ukraine. We could have had a deal before the new Russian invasion but our MIC and our eternal warriors in both parties voted for war. Meanwhile, the chicoms and Cho Bai Den smile.

Why does the US want one of it's major enemies to have a settled peace instead of a bloody meat grinding stalemate they can't escape from?

You guysm switch between "Ukrainians are Nazis!" And "We need peace to save lives!" So fast I can't keep up.

Perhaps because your 4D Chess analysis is pure horseshit?

Welcome to the Cold War, kid. It never ended.

You kids think it happened on your watch.

 

[Bob_C]

No one cares about this stalemate any more

So are you finally done pumping that money-laundering, lost-cause, corrupt war?

It wasnt a lost cause

Ukraine still exists with 75% of their land under their control

Russia was exposed as a circus, and the US got incredible intel watching them go full WW1 in embarassing fashion

Seems like a W for the USA

You may be[/s] are clearly and unequivocally the dumbest person on these boreds.

Losing 25% of a nation's land is a victory in your childish mind.

Keep wearing that helmet, Retard.

For Ukrainians? Maybe, maybe not, depends on how you look at it.

For Russia? Massive L.

For the US at a geopolitical and strategic level? Unequivocally a massive W.[/b]

Probably deterred the invasion of Taiwan if nothing else.

Definitely revitalized NATO at an existential level which "isn't" important until it is.

I could list, and already did for our regular readers, at least 10 ways in which it is for the US.

None of that means there shouldn't be better oversight, transparency, and accountability in the US military industrial complex. It's possible to be for both even though some in the Tug can't seem to fathom that.

Unable to achieve its stated objectives of getting Russia out of Ukraine is not a W.

We argued a settlement conceding territory that Russia had in possession plus no Ukraine in NATO. PGOS was arguing spring offensive and getting Russia out of the Ukraine. We could have had a deal before the new Russian invasion but our MIC and our eternal warriors in both parties voted for war. Meanwhile, the chicoms and Cho Bai Den smile.

Why does the US want one of it's major enemies to have a settled peace instead of a bloody meat grinding stalemate they can't escape from?

You guysm switch between "Ukrainians are Nazis!" And "We need peace to save lives!" So fast I can't keep up.

Why specifically are they a major enemy?

You mean besides explicitly stating that in collaboration with the CCP they want to overthrow the US as a global power and upend the western world order? That thing they explicitly stated long before the current Ukrainian conflict?

I could list idk, maybe 20-30 things Russia does on a regular basis to undermine the US off the top of my head. No Google needed. Let's try!

1. Funding hard leftist organizations like the New Dawn in the US to push political division and internal strife.
2. Pushing propaganda like "fracking causes unsustainable environmental harm" to destroy US energy production(they succeeded in Europe btw).
3. Running troll farms to literally just make Americans pissed off at eachother(A Prigozhin specialty RIP)
4. Spreading anti-vax propaganda for things like measles, mumps, and rubella to increase childhood deaths in the US
5. Funding anti-American politicians in South America and the Caribbean
6. Propping up dictators like Maduro with literal Wagner military forces
7. Yes, they are in fact involved in the fentanyl trade(not as big as the CCP but still)
8. Funding and propping up anti-American dictators in Africa (There's like almost 10 of these but I won't cheat and name each one)
9. Steele Dossier disinformation was provided to the Dems basically on request
10. Did I mention they also push and fund secessionist movements within the US on both sides of the political isle?
11. Russia actually regularly comes into our arctic economic zones with military assets to push our fishermen and oil exploration out (Trump put a stop to this, guess who let them start again?)
12. Helping Iran get around US led sanctions
13. Helping North Korea develop a nuclear weapon (allegedly but c'mon man!)
14. Funding anti-American/anti-NATO groups in Europe
15. Specifically pushing the boundaries of non-proliferation treaties
16. Blowing shit up in space as a denial of space action(pun intended)
17. Syria..do we need to get into all the details? It ended with a bunch of Wagnerites getting fucking smoked by the US Air Assets.
18. Massive online state sponsored hacking presence second only to China, I literally get briefed at work on it for cybersecurity
19. Speaking of cybersecurity, did I mention they target our critical infrastructure? You know...just in case
20. Backwards engineering our defense tech and then selling it to our enemies such as ChY-na
21. Specifically selling assets to undermine American "interference" like selling S400 systems to Syria which were basically only good for trying to fight US assets
22. Engaging in bribery and influence peddling within our own establishment, why do you think such luminaries as Killary, Obama, and John Kerry were for a "reset" in relations?
23. Helping to arm insurgents in Iraq and Afghanistan with old soviet surplus
24. Selling Soviet surplus to the Cartels

Basically since Putin consolidated power it serves him to re-use the old Soviet propaganda that the West is the boogeyman and to have an adversarial relationship.

Again, they explicitly state we are the enemy[/i]. It's neat that so many here think there's some live and let live world beyond our borders but that's not at all how this works.

Edit: Also FRANNY?! goodnight for tonight and good luck out there folks.

We also do most of those things to them in some form also which is their justification for continuing to do those things. It's a death spiral in terms of relations. But it's good business for think tanks I suppose. There's a deal to be made, but it won't happen because of perverse incentives.

 

[Sledog]

Now list ChYna's evils. Yet they have ALL of our manufacturing and actively attack us on many fronts. Including printing phony ballots.

 

[TurdBomber]

Cyber Security Now! The Russians are Coming. THE RUSSIANS ARE COMING!!!!!!!!

We must defend ourselves by becoming a Far Left Communist Dictatorship before Russia takes us over!!!!

 

[Sledog]

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