Can we offer this Ukranian solider a scholarship?

[PostGameOrangeSlices]

It's The Hill, so I guess you guys are allowed to read it:
https://thehill.com/opinion/interna...e-have-clear-evidence-of-genocide-in-ukraine/

Do you see anyone arguing it’s not happening? Maybe someone should tell Joey and he’d call for shit to end today.

Why? Ukraine has been liberating hundreds of thousands of their civilians

Less would die if there's a ceasefire. We were told to give up our civil liberties if it saves one life for covid.

Did you miss the part where Russia is torturing, raping, and kidnapping children in the territory they occupy?

Fuck off!

Please tell us who lives in these areas prior to the Russian invasion? Take as much tim as you need.

As Jimmy Dore would say, you've been so propagandized you don't even know you're propagandized.

Again, congrats.

This is fucking hilarious.

Absolutely comedy gold.

Deep down, you know you're retarded. You have to.

No one is this dumb.

Answer the question. Use that stellar IQ.

You answer the fucking question, dipshit.

Did Ukraine liberate Kherson or not?

That's not the question of the hour. Who lived in the area now occupied by Russia prior to the beginning of the conflict?

Show us that IQ.

Ukrainians and Russians

It's hilarious you are criticizing a source that said Ukraine kicked Russia out of a major city.

It's clear where your allegiance lies.

Kherson is Ukraine. Cope.

 

[pawz]

It's The Hill, so I guess you guys are allowed to read it:
https://thehill.com/opinion/interna...e-have-clear-evidence-of-genocide-in-ukraine/

Do you see anyone arguing it’s not happening? Maybe someone should tell Joey and he’d call for shit to end today.

Why? Ukraine has been liberating hundreds of thousands of their civilians

Less would die if there's a ceasefire. We were told to give up our civil liberties if it saves one life for covid.

Did you miss the part where Russia is torturing, raping, and kidnapping children in the territory they occupy?

Fuck off!

Please tell us who lives in these areas prior to the Russian invasion? Take as much tim as you need.

As Jimmy Dore would say, you've been so propagandized you don't even know you're propagandized.

Again, congrats.

This is fucking hilarious.

Absolutely comedy gold.

Deep down, you know you're retarded. You have to.

No one is this dumb.

Answer the question. Use that stellar IQ.

You answer the fucking question, dipshit.

Did Ukraine liberate Kherson or not?

That's not the question of the hour. Who lived in the area now occupied by Russia prior to the beginning of the conflict?

Show us that IQ.

Ukrainians and Russians

It's hilarious you are criticizing a source that said Ukraine kicked Russia out of a major city.

It's clear where your allegiance lies. [/i][/b]

Kherson is Ukraine. Cope.

Slander is a tool of the weak.

You still don't get that Russia retreated to consolidate while they recruit and train anew. It was a planned, tactical move.

The propagandists took the opportunity to give you another dong to swallow. They succeeded.

 

[UW_Doog_Bot]

This got buried in @PostGameOrangeSlices blue and gold boner. But it is the crux of why Putin is such a 'mad man'.

The arrogance of the West was to continue to expand NATO east despite the red-line protestations of Russia.

If Russia or China joined in a military pact with Mexico, and just needed a little more time to get their bases in there, America rightfully[/i][/b] would put an end to that right quick. You disavow Russia employing this same logic because it doesn't fit the imperialist mores of the West.
[/i]

It's goddamned naive to think the US isn't an imperialist nation. We just have been conditioned to think the US military is the world's policemen saving democracy.

How's that worked out in the Middle East, Vietnam and Afghanistan?

It's comical to see the chickenhawks claiming Putin will continue to march through Eastern Europe if not stopped in Ukraine. That's 1960's Domino Theory.

The US is an imperialist nation?

What anti-us communist drivel is this shit?

If we were actually imperialist we would have nuked Moscow in 1946 and been literally ruling the world for 70+ years as the sole super power while enslaving anyone not American and receiving tribute instead of spending trillions on foreign aid.

Get the actual fuck outta here.

 

[PostGameOrangeSlices]

It's The Hill, so I guess you guys are allowed to read it:
https://thehill.com/opinion/interna...e-have-clear-evidence-of-genocide-in-ukraine/

Do you see anyone arguing it’s not happening? Maybe someone should tell Joey and he’d call for shit to end today.

Why? Ukraine has been liberating hundreds of thousands of their civilians

Less would die if there's a ceasefire. We were told to give up our civil liberties if it saves one life for covid.

Did you miss the part where Russia is torturing, raping, and kidnapping children in the territory they occupy?

Fuck off!

Please tell us who lives in these areas prior to the Russian invasion? Take as much tim as you need.

As Jimmy Dore would say, you've been so propagandized you don't even know you're propagandized.

Again, congrats.

This is fucking hilarious.

Absolutely comedy gold.

Deep down, you know you're retarded. You have to.

No one is this dumb.

Answer the question. Use that stellar IQ.

You answer the fucking question, dipshit.

Did Ukraine liberate Kherson or not?

That's not the question of the hour. Who lived in the area now occupied by Russia prior to the beginning of the conflict?

Show us that IQ.

Ukrainians and Russians

It's hilarious you are criticizing a source that said Ukraine kicked Russia out of a major city.

It's clear where your allegiance lies. [/i][/b]

Kherson is Ukraine. Cope.

Slander is a tool of the weak.

You still don't get that Russia retreated to consolidate while they recruit and train anew. It was a planned, tactical move.

The propagandists took the opportunity to give you another dong to swallow. They succeeded.

This is pure Kremlin propaganda. LOL

 

[pawz]

This got buried in @PostGameOrangeSlices blue and gold boner. But it is the crux of why Putin is such a 'mad man'.

The arrogance of the West was to continue to expand NATO east despite the red-line protestations of Russia.

If Russia or China joined in a military pact with Mexico, and just needed a little more time to get their bases in there, America rightfully[/i][/b] would put an end to that right quick. You disavow Russia employing this same logic because it doesn't fit the imperialist mores of the West.
[/i]

It's goddamned naive to think the US isn't an imperialist nation. We just have been conditioned to think the US military is the world's policemen saving democracy.

How's that worked out in the Middle East, Vietnam and Afghanistan?

It's comical to see the chickenhawks claiming Putin will continue to march through Eastern Europe if not stopped in Ukraine. That's 1960's Domino Theory.

The US is an imperialist nation?

What anti-us communist drivel is this shit?

If we were actually imperialist we would have nuked Moscow in 1946 and been literally ruling the world for 70+ years as the sole super power while enslaving anyone not American and receiving tribute instead of spending trillions on foreign aid.

Get the actual fuck outta here.

The imperialists didn't get their own guysm in there until after the Nov '63 coup.

Hope this helps.

 

[pawz]

It's The Hill, so I guess you guys are allowed to read it:
https://thehill.com/opinion/interna...e-have-clear-evidence-of-genocide-in-ukraine/

Do you see anyone arguing it’s not happening? Maybe someone should tell Joey and he’d call for shit to end today.

Why? Ukraine has been liberating hundreds of thousands of their civilians

Less would die if there's a ceasefire. We were told to give up our civil liberties if it saves one life for covid.

Did you miss the part where Russia is torturing, raping, and kidnapping children in the territory they occupy?

Fuck off!

Please tell us who lives in these areas prior to the Russian invasion? Take as much tim as you need.

As Jimmy Dore would say, you've been so propagandized you don't even know you're propagandized.

Again, congrats.

This is fucking hilarious.

Absolutely comedy gold.

Deep down, you know you're retarded. You have to.

No one is this dumb.

Answer the question. Use that stellar IQ.

You answer the fucking question, dipshit.

Did Ukraine liberate Kherson or not?

That's not the question of the hour. Who lived in the area now occupied by Russia prior to the beginning of the conflict?

Show us that IQ.

Ukrainians and Russians

It's hilarious you are criticizing a source that said Ukraine kicked Russia out of a major city.

It's clear where your allegiance lies. [/i][/b]

Kherson is Ukraine. Cope.

Slander is a tool of the weak.

You still don't get that Russia retreated to consolidate while they recruit and train anew. It was a planned, tactical move.

The propagandists took the opportunity to give you another dong to swallow. They succeeded.

This is pure Kremlin propaganda. LOL

OK!

Christ.

 

[UW_Doog_Bot]

PGOS, I think your head and intentions are in the right place regarding this conflict and I understand your distrust of Russia. I can't speak for the others here but I don't believe anyone supports Russia or their war with Ukraine. I don't trust our? own government or any European member of NATO either. If they were so concerned about Russian advancement beyond Ukraine, then they should be all in against Russia instead of relying upon our? tax dollars. We? seem to care a whole lot more about Ukrainian borders than our own. We? are ignoring our own people and the problems at home at the expense of a criminally corrupt Zelensky and his government.

The discussion on this topic has definitely been better the longer the thread has gone on.

Like I said earlier, show me a non corrupt country...it just doesnt exist. I get your guy's distrust of Nato, the US, and especially Biden.

The being said, I do think the powers that be are making an example out of Russia, and at the same time sending a clear message to China. That message is that wars over territory are a thing of the past, this is the New World Order, fuck around and find out.

At the same time, Russia has and is still committing horrific war crimes. And its not just one offs here and there like Tiger Force in Vietnam, it's systemic and everywhere they touch tortured and killed civilians pay the price.

If Ukraine wants to fight and die, I say let them. You guys seem to agree, its the specifics of US backing we disagree on

Fuck the New World Order.

That's the point of all this. Fuck NWO, fuck global corporatism. Fuck Davos. Fuck fuck fuck. And fuck anyone who supports that bullshit.

We don't want any fucking New World Order.

It's already here. US and its cronies run the world. Better to live here than say...Russia

That's why the cronies were desperate to get rid of Trump or any American president that puts America first

That was the campaign - elect Biden so the world respects us again!!!!

Fuck that. Better to be feared[/b]

Agree. Why it's great that Russia just got kicked in the nuts by American hardware donated out of the goodwill bin.

 

[UW_Doog_Bot]

This got buried in @PostGameOrangeSlices blue and gold boner. But it is the crux of why Putin is such a 'mad man'.

The arrogance of the West was to continue to expand NATO east despite the red-line protestations of Russia.

If Russia or China joined in a military pact with Mexico, and just needed a little more time to get their bases in there, America rightfully[/i][/b] would put an end to that right quick. You disavow Russia employing this same logic because it doesn't fit the imperialist mores of the West.
[/i]

It's goddamned naive to think the US isn't an imperialist nation. We just have been conditioned to think the US military is the world's policemen saving democracy.

How's that worked out in the Middle East, Vietnam and Afghanistan?

It's comical to see the chickenhawks claiming Putin will continue to march through Eastern Europe if not stopped in Ukraine. That's 1960's Domino Theory.

The US is an imperialist nation?

What anti-us communist drivel is this shit?

If we were actually imperialist we would have nuked Moscow in 1946 and been literally ruling the world for 70+ years as the sole super power while enslaving anyone not American and receiving tribute instead of spending trillions on foreign aid.

Get the actual fuck outta here.

The imperialists didn't get their own guysm in there until after the Nov '63 coup.

Hope this helps.

You guysm don't know what the fuck imperialism is if you think that's what the US is up to. The US has national interests like any nation does.

It's usually the card of neo fascists to say that to conflate and justify their actual imperialism. You know, like the CCP.

When the US starts going back to boots on ground invasion followed by colonists we can talk. Until then FO back to Russian Television or the Venezuelan State Broadcast with that shit.

 

[pawz]

This got buried in @PostGameOrangeSlices blue and gold boner. But it is the crux of why Putin is such a 'mad man'.

The arrogance of the West was to continue to expand NATO east despite the red-line protestations of Russia.

If Russia or China joined in a military pact with Mexico, and just needed a little more time to get their bases in there, America rightfully[/i][/b] would put an end to that right quick. You disavow Russia employing this same logic because it doesn't fit the imperialist mores of the West.
[/i]

It's goddamned naive to think the US isn't an imperialist nation. We just have been conditioned to think the US military is the world's policemen saving democracy.

How's that worked out in the Middle East, Vietnam and Afghanistan?

It's comical to see the chickenhawks claiming Putin will continue to march through Eastern Europe if not stopped in Ukraine. That's 1960's Domino Theory.

The US is an imperialist nation?

What anti-us communist drivel is this shit?

If we were actually imperialist we would have nuked Moscow in 1946 and been literally ruling the world for 70+ years as the sole super power while enslaving anyone not American and receiving tribute instead of spending trillions on foreign aid.

Get the actual fuck outta here.

The imperialists didn't get their own guysm in there until after the Nov '63 coup.

Hope this helps.

You guysm don't know what the fuck imperialism is if you think that's what the US is up to. The US has national interests like any nation does.

It's usually the card of neo fascists to say that to conflate and justify their actual imperialism. You know, like the CCP.

When the US starts going back to boots on ground invasion followed by colonists we can talk[/i][/b]. Until then FO back to Russian Television or the Venezuelan State Broadcast with that shit.

Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria.

Don't forget what we do for the peoples of Yemen, though not technically boots on the ground.

We came, we saw, we Libya. The public slave auctions are a nice touch.

 

[RaceBannon]

PGOS, I think your head and intentions are in the right place regarding this conflict and I understand your distrust of Russia. I can't speak for the others here but I don't believe anyone supports Russia or their war with Ukraine. I don't trust our? own government or any European member of NATO either. If they were so concerned about Russian advancement beyond Ukraine, then they should be all in against Russia instead of relying upon our? tax dollars. We? seem to care a whole lot more about Ukrainian borders than our own. We? are ignoring our own people and the problems at home at the expense of a criminally corrupt Zelensky and his government.

The discussion on this topic has definitely been better the longer the thread has gone on.

Like I said earlier, show me a non corrupt country...it just doesnt exist. I get your guy's distrust of Nato, the US, and especially Biden.

The being said, I do think the powers that be are making an example out of Russia, and at the same time sending a clear message to China. That message is that wars over territory are a thing of the past, this is the New World Order, fuck around and find out.

At the same time, Russia has and is still committing horrific war crimes. And its not just one offs here and there like Tiger Force in Vietnam, it's systemic and everywhere they touch tortured and killed civilians pay the price.

If Ukraine wants to fight and die, I say let them. You guys seem to agree, its the specifics of US backing we disagree on

Fuck the New World Order.

That's the point of all this. Fuck NWO, fuck global corporatism. Fuck Davos. Fuck fuck fuck. And fuck anyone who supports that bullshit.

We don't want any fucking New World Order.

It's already here. US and its cronies run the world. Better to live here than say...Russia

That's why the cronies were desperate to get rid of Trump or any American president that puts America first

That was the campaign - elect Biden so the world respects us again!!!!

Fuck that. Better to be feared[/b]

Agree. Why it's great that Russia just got kicked in the nuts by American hardware donated out of the goodwill bin.

I just laughed at the thought that any country fears what Joe is doing in Ukraine

When you guys decide if Russia is pathetic or a threat let me know

I thought Ukraine was defending themselves

Fog of war

 

[UW_Doog_Bot]

This got buried in @PostGameOrangeSlices blue and gold boner. But it is the crux of why Putin is such a 'mad man'.

The arrogance of the West was to continue to expand NATO east despite the red-line protestations of Russia.

If Russia or China joined in a military pact with Mexico, and just needed a little more time to get their bases in there, America rightfully[/i][/b] would put an end to that right quick. You disavow Russia employing this same logic because it doesn't fit the imperialist mores of the West.
[/i]

It's goddamned naive to think the US isn't an imperialist nation. We just have been conditioned to think the US military is the world's policemen saving democracy.

How's that worked out in the Middle East, Vietnam and Afghanistan?

It's comical to see the chickenhawks claiming Putin will continue to march through Eastern Europe if not stopped in Ukraine. That's 1960's Domino Theory.

The US is an imperialist nation?

What anti-us communist drivel is this shit?

If we were actually imperialist we would have nuked Moscow in 1946 and been literally ruling the world for 70+ years as the sole super power while enslaving anyone not American and receiving tribute instead of spending trillions on foreign aid.

Get the actual fuck outta here.

The imperialists didn't get their own guysm in there until after the Nov '63 coup.

Hope this helps.

You guysm don't know what the fuck imperialism is if you think that's what the US is up to. The US has national interests like any nation does.

It's usually the card of neo fascists to say that to conflate and justify their actual imperialism. You know, like the CCP.

When the US starts going back to boots on ground invasion followed by colonists we can talk[/i][/b]. Until then FO back to Russian Television or the Venezuelan State Broadcast with that shit.

Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria.

Don't forget what we do for the peoples of Yemen, though not technically boots on the ground.

We came, we saw, we Libya. The public slave auctions are a nice touch.

Where are the colonists @pawz ? Why did we give up our "colonies"? Why did we send money there instead of extracting all the wealth?

How Russia annexed Crimea? That's imperialism.

If the US was imperialist we could annex all of Canada tomorrow(and a bunch more countries to boot) and no one could do shit about it. So then, if we are in fact imperialists, why don't we?

 

[46XiJCAB]

It's The Hill, so I guess you guys are allowed to read it:
https://thehill.com/opinion/interna...e-have-clear-evidence-of-genocide-in-ukraine/

Do you see anyone arguing it’s not happening? Maybe someone should tell Joey and he’d call for shit to end today.

Why? Ukraine has been liberating hundreds of thousands of their civilians

Less would die if there's a ceasefire. We were told to give up our civil liberties if it saves one life for covid.

Did you miss the part where Russia is torturing, raping, and kidnapping children in the territory they occupy?

Fuck off!

If only Joey would call for a ceasefire or peace negotiations immediately. What’s stopping him PGOS?

 

[pawz]

This got buried in @PostGameOrangeSlices blue and gold boner. But it is the crux of why Putin is such a 'mad man'.

The arrogance of the West was to continue to expand NATO east despite the red-line protestations of Russia.

If Russia or China joined in a military pact with Mexico, and just needed a little more time to get their bases in there, America rightfully[/i][/b] would put an end to that right quick. You disavow Russia employing this same logic because it doesn't fit the imperialist mores of the West.
[/i]

It's goddamned naive to think the US isn't an imperialist nation. We just have been conditioned to think the US military is the world's policemen saving democracy.

How's that worked out in the Middle East, Vietnam and Afghanistan?

It's comical to see the chickenhawks claiming Putin will continue to march through Eastern Europe if not stopped in Ukraine. That's 1960's Domino Theory.

The US is an imperialist nation?

What anti-us communist drivel is this shit?

If we were actually imperialist we would have nuked Moscow in 1946 and been literally ruling the world for 70+ years as the sole super power while enslaving anyone not American and receiving tribute instead of spending trillions on foreign aid.

Get the actual fuck outta here.

The imperialists didn't get their own guysm in there until after the Nov '63 coup.

Hope this helps.

You guysm don't know what the fuck imperialism is if you think that's what the US is up to. The US has national interests like any nation does.

It's usually the card of neo fascists to say that to conflate and justify their actual imperialism. You know, like the CCP.

When the US starts going back to boots on ground invasion followed by colonists we can talk[/i][/b]. Until then FO back to Russian Television or the Venezuelan State Broadcast with that shit.

Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria.

Don't forget what we do for the peoples of Yemen, though not technically boots on the ground.

We came, we saw, we Libya. The public slave auctions are a nice touch.

Where are the colonists @pawz ? Why did we give up our "colonies"? Why did we send money there instead of extracting all the wealth?

How Russia annexed Crimea? That's imperialism.

If the US was imperialist we could annex all of Canada tomorrow(and a bunch more countries to boot) and no one could do shit about it. So then, if we are in fact imperialists, why don't we?

We currently occupy 1/3rd of Syria. The oil 1/3rd.

Russia likely wouldn't have annexed Crimea had their not been a western-backed coup of UKR. Those two events are absolutely related. Putin is literally Hitler.

What makes you think we don't effectively control Canada? Remember what caused an end to the Trucker Strike? Joey placed a call to Justin. The End.

 

[UW_Doog_Bot]

PGOS, I think your head and intentions are in the right place regarding this conflict and I understand your distrust of Russia. I can't speak for the others here but I don't believe anyone supports Russia or their war with Ukraine. I don't trust our? own government or any European member of NATO either. If they were so concerned about Russian advancement beyond Ukraine, then they should be all in against Russia instead of relying upon our? tax dollars. We? seem to care a whole lot more about Ukrainian borders than our own. We? are ignoring our own people and the problems at home at the expense of a criminally corrupt Zelensky and his government.

The discussion on this topic has definitely been better the longer the thread has gone on.

Like I said earlier, show me a non corrupt country...it just doesnt exist. I get your guy's distrust of Nato, the US, and especially Biden.

The being said, I do think the powers that be are making an example out of Russia, and at the same time sending a clear message to China. That message is that wars over territory are a thing of the past, this is the New World Order, fuck around and find out.

At the same time, Russia has and is still committing horrific war crimes. And its not just one offs here and there like Tiger Force in Vietnam, it's systemic and everywhere they touch tortured and killed civilians pay the price.

If Ukraine wants to fight and die, I say let them. You guys seem to agree, its the specifics of US backing we disagree on

Fuck the New World Order.

That's the point of all this. Fuck NWO, fuck global corporatism. Fuck Davos. Fuck fuck fuck. And fuck anyone who supports that bullshit.

We don't want any fucking New World Order.

It's already here. US and its cronies run the world. Better to live here than say...Russia

That's why the cronies were desperate to get rid of Trump or any American president that puts America first

That was the campaign - elect Biden so the world respects us again!!!!

Fuck that. Better to be feared[/b]

Agree. Why it's great that Russia just got kicked in the nuts by American hardware donated out of the goodwill bin.

I just laughed at the thought that any country fears what Joe is doing in Ukraine

When you guys decide if Russia is pathetic or a threat let me know

I thought Ukraine was defending themselves

Fog of war

You better believe that the CCP just seriously recalibrated their plans to take Taiwan. Both them and the Russians thought they were near peer or maybe even better than the US after the Afghanistan debacle. It happens when you believe your own propaganda.

Instead, a few dozen himars parked on an island with a patriot system all of a sudden seems a bit more daunting for an armored invasion.

Has nothing to do with "The Big Guy" who would sell the CCP the plans to invade.

Has everything to do with the fact that despite all of the political gerrymandering of the military the US is still light years ahead of anything our enemies can currently muster.

I've also been on my own side in all of this so keep @PostGameOrangeSlices out of my mouth.

 

[46XiJCAB]

24 pages in and no official word on the potential scholarship yet?

 

[46XiJCAB]

PGOS, I think your head and intentions are in the right place regarding this conflict and I understand your distrust of Russia. I can't speak for the others here but I don't believe anyone supports Russia or their war with Ukraine. I don't trust our? own government or any European member of NATO either. If they were so concerned about Russian advancement beyond Ukraine, then they should be all in against Russia instead of relying upon our? tax dollars. We? seem to care a whole lot more about Ukrainian borders than our own. We? are ignoring our own people and the problems at home at the expense of a criminally corrupt Zelensky and his government.

The discussion on this topic has definitely been better the longer the thread has gone on.

Like I said earlier, show me a non corrupt country...it just doesnt exist. I get your guy's distrust of Nato, the US, and especially Biden.

The being said, I do think the powers that be are making an example out of Russia, and at the same time sending a clear message to China. That message is that wars over territory are a thing of the past, this is the New World Order, fuck around and find out.

At the same time, Russia has and is still committing horrific war crimes. And its not just one offs here and there like Tiger Force in Vietnam, it's systemic and everywhere they touch tortured and killed civilians pay the price.

If Ukraine wants to fight and die, I say let them. You guys seem to agree, its the specifics of US backing we disagree on

Fuck the New World Order.

That's the point of all this. Fuck NWO, fuck global corporatism. Fuck Davos. Fuck fuck fuck. And fuck anyone who supports that bullshit.

We don't want any fucking New World Order.

It's already here. US and its cronies run the world. Better to live here than say...Russia

That's why the cronies were desperate to get rid of Trump or any American president that puts America first

That was the campaign - elect Biden so the world respects us again!!!!

Fuck that. Better to be feared[/b]

Agree. Why it's great that Russia just got kicked in the nuts by American hardware donated out of the goodwill bin.

I just laughed at the thought that any country fears what Joe is doing in Ukraine

When you guys decide if Russia is pathetic or a threat let me know

I thought Ukraine was defending themselves

Fog of war

You better believe that the CCP just seriously recalibrated their plans to take Taiwan. Both them and the Russians thought they were near peer or maybe even better than the US after the Afghanistan debacle. It happens when you believe your own propaganda.

Instead, a few dozen himars parked on an island with a patriot system all of a sudden seems a bit more daunting for an armored invasion.

Has nothing to do with "The Big Guy" who would sell the CCP the plans to invade.

Has everything to do with the fact that despite all of the political gerrymandering of the military the US is still light years ahead of anything our enemies can currently muster.

I've also been on my own side in all of this so keep @PostGameOrangeSlices out of my mouth.

That’s not what the Chinese believe according to Gordon Chang. I think you’re underestimating how weak they view us right now.

 

[pawz]

PGOS, I think your head and intentions are in the right place regarding this conflict and I understand your distrust of Russia. I can't speak for the others here but I don't believe anyone supports Russia or their war with Ukraine. I don't trust our? own government or any European member of NATO either. If they were so concerned about Russian advancement beyond Ukraine, then they should be all in against Russia instead of relying upon our? tax dollars. We? seem to care a whole lot more about Ukrainian borders than our own. We? are ignoring our own people and the problems at home at the expense of a criminally corrupt Zelensky and his government.

The discussion on this topic has definitely been better the longer the thread has gone on.

Like I said earlier, show me a non corrupt country...it just doesnt exist. I get your guy's distrust of Nato, the US, and especially Biden.

The being said, I do think the powers that be are making an example out of Russia, and at the same time sending a clear message to China. That message is that wars over territory are a thing of the past, this is the New World Order, fuck around and find out.

At the same time, Russia has and is still committing horrific war crimes. And its not just one offs here and there like Tiger Force in Vietnam, it's systemic and everywhere they touch tortured and killed civilians pay the price.

If Ukraine wants to fight and die, I say let them. You guys seem to agree, its the specifics of US backing we disagree on

Fuck the New World Order.

That's the point of all this. Fuck NWO, fuck global corporatism. Fuck Davos. Fuck fuck fuck. And fuck anyone who supports that bullshit.

We don't want any fucking New World Order.

It's already here. US and its cronies run the world. Better to live here than say...Russia

That's why the cronies were desperate to get rid of Trump or any American president that puts America first

That was the campaign - elect Biden so the world respects us again!!!!

Fuck that. Better to be feared[/b]

Agree. Why it's great that Russia just got kicked in the nuts by American hardware donated out of the goodwill bin.

I just laughed at the thought that any country fears what Joe is doing in Ukraine

When you guys decide if Russia is pathetic or a threat let me know

I thought Ukraine was defending themselves

Fog of war

You better believe that the CCP just seriously recalibrated their plans to take Taiwan. Both them and the Russians thought they were near peer or maybe even better than the US after the Afghanistan debacle. It happens when you believe your own propaganda.

Instead, a few dozen himars parked on an island with a patriot system all of a sudden seems a bit more daunting for an armored invasion.

Has nothing to do with "The Big Guy" who would sell the CCP the plans to invade.

Has everything to do with the fact that despite all of the political gerrymandering of the military the US is still light years ahead of anything our enemies can currently muster.

I've also been on my own side in all of this [/i][/b]so keep @PostGameOrangeSlices out of my mouth.

True. You and Peter Zeihan.

PZ is interesting to listen to, but I'm not yet buying what he's selling. I can't yet put my finger on it despite many attempts.

LIPO

 

[UW_Doog_Bot]

This got buried in @PostGameOrangeSlices blue and gold boner. But it is the crux of why Putin is such a 'mad man'.

The arrogance of the West was to continue to expand NATO east despite the red-line protestations of Russia.

If Russia or China joined in a military pact with Mexico, and just needed a little more time to get their bases in there, America rightfully[/i][/b] would put an end to that right quick. You disavow Russia employing this same logic because it doesn't fit the imperialist mores of the West.
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It's goddamned naive to think the US isn't an imperialist nation. We just have been conditioned to think the US military is the world's policemen saving democracy.

How's that worked out in the Middle East, Vietnam and Afghanistan?

It's comical to see the chickenhawks claiming Putin will continue to march through Eastern Europe if not stopped in Ukraine. That's 1960's Domino Theory.

The US is an imperialist nation?

What anti-us communist drivel is this shit?

If we were actually imperialist we would have nuked Moscow in 1946 and been literally ruling the world for 70+ years as the sole super power while enslaving anyone not American and receiving tribute instead of spending trillions on foreign aid.

Get the actual fuck outta here.

The imperialists didn't get their own guysm in there until after the Nov '63 coup.

Hope this helps.

You guysm don't know what the fuck imperialism is if you think that's what the US is up to. The US has national interests like any nation does.

It's usually the card of neo fascists to say that to conflate and justify their actual imperialism. You know, like the CCP.

When the US starts going back to boots on ground invasion followed by colonists we can talk[/i][/b]. Until then FO back to Russian Television or the Venezuelan State Broadcast with that shit.

Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria.

Don't forget what we do for the peoples of Yemen, though not technically boots on the ground.

We came, we saw, we Libya. The public slave auctions are a nice touch.

Where are the colonists @pawz ? Why did we give up our "colonies"? Why did we send money there instead of extracting all the wealth?

How Russia annexed Crimea? That's imperialism.

If the US was imperialist we could annex all of Canada tomorrow(and a bunch more countries to boot) and no one could do shit about it. So then, if we are in fact imperialists, why don't we?

We currently occupy 1/3rd of Syria. The oil 1/3rd.

Russia likely wouldn't have annexed Crimea had their not been a western-backed coup of UKR. Those two events are absolutely related. Putin is literally Hitler.

What makes you think we don't effectively control Canada? Remember what caused an end to the Trucker Strike? Joey placed a call to Justin. The End.

We? Could occupy 2/3rds of the world with little to no resistance. And not pay anyone for the oil. Hth.

And Putin's invasions of many of the rest of his neighbors? Keep buying the RT agitprop.

Next you'll tell me if the US hadn't sailed through the straight of Malacca the Chinese wouldn't have needed to build all those islands in the south China sea. Keep repeating the ridiculous gaslights.

 

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PGOS, I think your head and intentions are in the right place regarding this conflict and I understand your distrust of Russia. I can't speak for the others here but I don't believe anyone supports Russia or their war with Ukraine. I don't trust our? own government or any European member of NATO either. If they were so concerned about Russian advancement beyond Ukraine, then they should be all in against Russia instead of relying upon our? tax dollars. We? seem to care a whole lot more about Ukrainian borders than our own. We? are ignoring our own people and the problems at home at the expense of a criminally corrupt Zelensky and his government.

The discussion on this topic has definitely been better the longer the thread has gone on.

Like I said earlier, show me a non corrupt country...it just doesnt exist. I get your guy's distrust of Nato, the US, and especially Biden.

The being said, I do think the powers that be are making an example out of Russia, and at the same time sending a clear message to China. That message is that wars over territory are a thing of the past, this is the New World Order, fuck around and find out.

At the same time, Russia has and is still committing horrific war crimes. And its not just one offs here and there like Tiger Force in Vietnam, it's systemic and everywhere they touch tortured and killed civilians pay the price.

If Ukraine wants to fight and die, I say let them. You guys seem to agree, its the specifics of US backing we disagree on

Fuck the New World Order.

That's the point of all this. Fuck NWO, fuck global corporatism. Fuck Davos. Fuck fuck fuck. And fuck anyone who supports that bullshit.

We don't want any fucking New World Order.

It's already here. US and its cronies run the world. Better to live here than say...Russia

That's why the cronies were desperate to get rid of Trump or any American president that puts America first

That was the campaign - elect Biden so the world respects us again!!!!

Fuck that. Better to be feared[/b]

Agree. Why it's great that Russia just got kicked in the nuts by American hardware donated out of the goodwill bin.

I just laughed at the thought that any country fears what Joe is doing in Ukraine

When you guys decide if Russia is pathetic or a threat let me know

I thought Ukraine was defending themselves

Fog of war

You better believe that the CCP just seriously recalibrated their plans to take Taiwan. Both them and the Russians thought they were near peer or maybe even better than the US after the Afghanistan debacle. It happens when you believe your own propaganda.

Instead, a few dozen himars parked on an island with a patriot system all of a sudden seems a bit more daunting for an armored invasion.

Has nothing to do with "The Big Guy" who would sell the CCP the plans to invade.

Has everything to do with the fact that despite all of the political gerrymandering of the military the US is still light years ahead of anything our enemies can currently muster.

I've also been on my own side in all of this so keep @PostGameOrangeSlices out of my mouth.

That’s not what the Chinese believe according to Gordon Chang. I think you’re underestimating how weak they view us right now.

Chang has been wrong for 20 years on China. I read his shit but let's not pretend he's not a CCP alarmist/hawk.

 

[UW_Doog_Bot]

PGOS, I think your head and intentions are in the right place regarding this conflict and I understand your distrust of Russia. I can't speak for the others here but I don't believe anyone supports Russia or their war with Ukraine. I don't trust our? own government or any European member of NATO either. If they were so concerned about Russian advancement beyond Ukraine, then they should be all in against Russia instead of relying upon our? tax dollars. We? seem to care a whole lot more about Ukrainian borders than our own. We? are ignoring our own people and the problems at home at the expense of a criminally corrupt Zelensky and his government.

The discussion on this topic has definitely been better the longer the thread has gone on.

Like I said earlier, show me a non corrupt country...it just doesnt exist. I get your guy's distrust of Nato, the US, and especially Biden.

The being said, I do think the powers that be are making an example out of Russia, and at the same time sending a clear message to China. That message is that wars over territory are a thing of the past, this is the New World Order, fuck around and find out.

At the same time, Russia has and is still committing horrific war crimes. And its not just one offs here and there like Tiger Force in Vietnam, it's systemic and everywhere they touch tortured and killed civilians pay the price.

If Ukraine wants to fight and die, I say let them. You guys seem to agree, its the specifics of US backing we disagree on

Fuck the New World Order.

That's the point of all this. Fuck NWO, fuck global corporatism. Fuck Davos. Fuck fuck fuck. And fuck anyone who supports that bullshit.

We don't want any fucking New World Order.

It's already here. US and its cronies run the world. Better to live here than say...Russia

That's why the cronies were desperate to get rid of Trump or any American president that puts America first

That was the campaign - elect Biden so the world respects us again!!!!

Fuck that. Better to be feared[/b]

Agree. Why it's great that Russia just got kicked in the nuts by American hardware donated out of the goodwill bin.

I just laughed at the thought that any country fears what Joe is doing in Ukraine

When you guys decide if Russia is pathetic or a threat let me know

I thought Ukraine was defending themselves

Fog of war

You better believe that the CCP just seriously recalibrated their plans to take Taiwan. Both them and the Russians thought they were near peer or maybe even better than the US after the Afghanistan debacle. It happens when you believe your own propaganda.

Instead, a few dozen himars parked on an island with a patriot system all of a sudden seems a bit more daunting for an armored invasion.

Has nothing to do with "The Big Guy" who would sell the CCP the plans to invade.

Has everything to do with the fact that despite all of the political gerrymandering of the military the US is still light years ahead of anything our enemies can currently muster.

I've also been on my own side in all of this [/i][/b]so keep @PostGameOrangeSlices out of my mouth.

True. You and Peter Zeihan.

PZ is interesting to listen to, but I'm not yet buying what he's selling. I can't yet put my finger on it despite many attempts.

LIPO

PZ is consolidating what a bunch of China analysts have been saying for years. Literally, he is plagiarizing many of the same people I've been plagiarizm for longer. And/or coming to the same conclusions.

He's liberal + pro many world Order things I'm obviously not for anyone not named @WestlinnDuck

He's good, I like how concisely he summarizes and effectively communicates ideas but I disagree with a lot of his shit and would give him a B+ overall.