Bull Moose History Thread

YellowSnow said:
My 2nd all time most favorite president behind Lincoln.
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I love him too.
He was a war hawk until his son was killed in WWI. He never recovered, although he died a short time later. There are a lot of lessons in there - #1 probably being don't be a war hawk.
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ukdawg said:
YellowSnow said:
My 2nd all time most favorite president behind Lincoln.
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I love him too.
He was a war hawk until his son was killed in WWI. He never recovered, although he died a short time later. There are a lot of lessons in there - #1 probably being don't be a war hawk.
Go Dawgs in 7 minutes
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I think Roosevelt's WW1 beliefs are a bit complicated to break down.
It's an interesting counter-factual to consider outcomes if the US enters in 1915 after the sinking of the Lusitania.
Would the US have tipped the balance enough for the Central Powers to consider peace talks before the carnage of 1916?
Certainly it would have been better for humanity to have ended the war before Lenin got into the sealed choo choo train car in 1917.
 
I know @pawz has read these, but absolutely essential.

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TBH, I haven’t read Theodore Rex yet. When I read the first two back-to-back, TR hadn’t been written/released. Then I lost track and here we are. For shame.

With that said, this account of Teddy’s charge up San Juan Heights is one of the more indelible moments in biographical literature, imo.

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Whether diplomacy works for all situations is certainly debatable. However, should Congress/President/Elite be required to submit their offspring to serve in the event of a declared war would likely decrease the indiscriminate use of the military to situations where it was actually dire and the last resort. Of course any such law would be unconstitutional, but in my opinion would provide incentive to avoid military intervention which inevitably leads to massive loss of life to all involved and ultimately in the end requires a diplomatic resolution anyway. Obviously some outliers in terms of world wars here.
 
spuden said:
Whether diplomacy works for all situations is certainly debatable. However, should Congress/President/Elite be required to submit their offspring to serve in the event of a declared war would likely decrease the indiscriminate use of the military to situations where it was actually dire and the last resort. Of course any such law would be unconstitutional, but in my opinion would provide incentive to avoid military intervention which inevitably leads to massive loss of life to all involved and ultimately in the end requires a diplomatic resolution anyway. Obviously some outliers in terms of world wars here.
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Thankfully I think the bar for taking action abroad is the highest it's been in decades. Besides the human / monetary costs not being worth the benefit, we don't really have the money.
 
HFNY said:
spuden said:
Whether diplomacy works for all situations is certainly debatable. However, should Congress/President/Elite be required to submit their offspring to serve in the event of a declared war would likely decrease the indiscriminate use of the military to situations where it was actually dire and the last resort. Of course any such law would be unconstitutional, but in my opinion would provide incentive to avoid military intervention which inevitably leads to massive loss of life to all involved and ultimately in the end requires a diplomatic resolution anyway. Obviously some outliers in terms of world wars here.
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Thankfully I think the bar for taking action abroad is the highest it's been in decades. Besides the human / monetary costs not being worth the benefit, we don't really have the money.
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Since when has that stopped the endless war/military industrial complex?

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PurpleThrobber said:
HFNY said:
spuden said:
Whether diplomacy works for all situations is certainly debatable. However, should Congress/President/Elite be required to submit their offspring to serve in the event of a declared war would likely decrease the indiscriminate use of the military to situations where it was actually dire and the last resort. Of course any such law would be unconstitutional, but in my opinion would provide incentive to avoid military intervention which inevitably leads to massive loss of life to all involved and ultimately in the end requires a diplomatic resolution anyway. Obviously some outliers in terms of world wars here.
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Thankfully I think the bar for taking action abroad is the highest it's been in decades. Besides the human / monetary costs not being worth the benefit, we don't really have the money.
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Since when has that stopped the endless war/military industrial complex?

TITTT
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Speak softly and carry a big stick, boss.
 
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