BOOM - Vernon Adams To Oregon


I think there are valid questions with Adams, but saying this means the Duck's have failed at QB development is wishful thinking. Lockie likely sucks. Mahallak is going to be a redshirt freshman coming off an injury and Waller will be a true freshman and is considered raw by the TBSers. Adams is a bridge guy for a team that wants to win another Pac 12 title instead of going through growing pains with a new QB. Great pick up for Oregon.
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Adams is a good pickup, but I'm pretty sure he doesn't show up in Eugene until July, he still has to graduate from EWU. Oregon losses a bunch of OLs and defenders. I think they have 6 returners on both sides. I think they'll still be good, but 10-2 is their ceiling in my opinion with Losses @Sparty and @Stanford. I don't think this Duck team is good enough to simply blow the doors off of teams like ASU, SC or UW, either. Just looking at the talent I think this may be the weakest Duck team since some of Chip's earliest versions, especially on defense.
 
It's complete dooging to call this move by Helf a failure. Adams can ball and immediately helps Oregon. In the limited snaps I saw Lockie play, he was clearly not ready for primetime and shitting his pants. I don't know anything about that Mahalak guy but Adams can make throws in tight windows. Oregon's offense usually has someone streaking downfield open by 10 yards.

True he is not as good of a runner as Mariota, but he is good enough. If anything it means more touches for Freeman--who is incredible--Tyner, and whatever 5 star Running Back they have riding pine over there.
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Darren Thomas wasn't very fast either. Vernon Adams is like Darren Thomas, but more lethal through he air. If there was one area where Mariota lacked, it was throwing in tight windows. Adams gives you that, while it makes up some for the lost of Mariota's feet, there's never going to be another Mariota at Oregon for atleast the next 20 years. Mariota is a once in a generation quarterback for most schools.

Adams is the best that Oregon could have done right now. Oregon hasn't developed QB poorly as much as a lot of their future options transferred elsewhere when they realized how great Mariota was. Brain Bennett wasn't great, but he was serviceable. He won Oregon a few games while Darren Thomas was injured, including a nice road win at UCLA.

Jake Rodriguez then transferred. Now he wasn't as good as Bennett, and was actually behind Locke on the depth chart, but he has much better measurables and thus a higher ceiling. Many thought he would actually overtake Locke if he stayed.

There are disadvantages to having a solidified heisman QB or RBs, as some of the quality depth behind them won't stay because they can get playing time somewhere else. Don't be surprised if Oregon loses some high quality backs next year, because who wants to be 4th in line behind Freeman, Tyner, and Griffin? That's also not counting Lovette, Merritt, or Tony James who redshirted last year. I'm sure one or two will play receiver, but nonetheless.......
 
Maybe it's just abundance, but I find it fascinating how some of you are more excited about a potential Oregon drop off than a potential rise in Husky football. Hate to break it to you, but even if Oregon flounders, Stanford is still better than you, and Kal (crazy I know) is improving, and not that far behind you. After that, there's 4 teams in the South that are better than UW. Oregon falling, would be sure nice for you to see, but unless you get your shit together, it's not going to help you one bit.
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Having a realistic shot at beating Oregon is what gets people excited (because nothing else matters).

You Ducks are getting nervous because:

- Warshington is actually serious about football and has a good coach

- Kelly is gone and the replacement is coasting off of his success.
 
I think there are valid questions with Adams, but saying this means the Duck's have failed at QB development is wishful thinking. Lockie likely sucks. Mahallak is going to be a redshirt freshman coming off an injury and Waller will be a true freshman and is considered raw by the TBSers. Adams is a bridge guy for a team that wants to win another Pac 12 title instead of going through growing pains with a new QB. Great pick up for Oregon.
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Adams is a good pickup, but I'm pretty sure he doesn't show up in Eugene until July, he still has to graduate from EWU. Oregon losses a bunch of OLs and defenders. I think they have 6 returners on both sides. I think they'll still be good, but 10-2 is their ceiling in my opinion with Losses @Sparty and @Stanford. I don't think this Duck team is good enough to simply blow the doors off of teams like ASU, SC or UW, either. Just looking at the talent I think this may be the weakest Duck team since some of Chip's earliest versions, especially on defense.
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I think ASU, UCLA, AZ, and USC are huge threats to Oregon next year. My problem with Stanford is that now without Montgomery, they have absolutely nobody on the outside that can threaten teams. They also still lack the bruising tailback needed in their system, maybe a year from now it will be different, but I'm thinking of next year only. UW's offense isn't scaring anybody, Kal is still a year away from challenging the upper North, and WSU and OSU are still WSU and OSU. Oregon is making the PAC 12 title game next year, but the champ could definitely come from the South.
 
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@BallSacked - early days to forecast how Oregon does this fall.

Adams graduates from EWU on June 13 and will be in Eugene on June 14. There are those who think that Oregon's DL will actually be *better* next year, and that the OL should be about the same given that we play the OL in platoon fashion. I have lots of confidence in our line coaches, either way. Adams gives me confidence that Oregon will have a QB capable of managing the game next fall, and who will be able to distribute the ball to the very talented players in the backfield.

 
Maybe it's just abundance, but I find it fascinating how some of you are more excited about a potential Oregon drop off than a potential rise in Husky football. Hate to break it to you, but even if Oregon flounders, Stanford is still better than you, and Kal (crazy I know) is improving, and not that far behind you. After that, there's 4 teams in the South that are better than UW. Oregon falling, would be sure nice for you to see, but unless you get your shit together, it's not going to help you one bit.
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Having a realistic shot at beating Oregon is what gets people excited (because nothing else matters).

You Ducks are getting nervous because:

- Warshington is actually serious about football and has a good coach

- Kelly is gone and the replacement is coasting off of his success.
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Disagree.

Peterman had a very mixed first year at UW. I guess the argument is that he kind of wrote off year one as rebuilding, but I don't understand the logic that goes into that.

I haven't seen any significant indicators of regression by Helfrich.
 
@BallSacked - early days to forecast how Oregon does this fall.

Adams graduates from EWU on June 13 and will be in Eugene on June 14. There are those who think that Oregon's DL will actually be *better* next year, and that the OL should be about the same given that we play the OL in platoon fashion. I have lots of confidence in our line coaches, either way. Adams gives me confidence that Oregon will have a QB capable of managing the game next fall, and who will be able to distribute the ball to the very talented players in the backfield.
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I'm going to wait to see if Canton is as good as advertised, he'll be a freshman afterall. Our defensive backs will be young and inexperienced. The biggest worry I have though, is for the third year in a row, Oregon will have the worst linebackers in D1.
 
I think there are valid questions with Adams, but saying this means the Duck's have failed at QB development is wishful thinking. Lockie likely sucks. Mahallak is going to be a redshirt freshman coming off an injury and Waller will be a true freshman and is considered raw by the TBSers. Adams is a bridge guy for a team that wants to win another Pac 12 title instead of going through growing pains with a new QB. Great pick up for Oregon.
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Adams is a good pickup, but I'm pretty sure he doesn't show up in Eugene until July, he still has to graduate from EWU. Oregon losses a bunch of OLs and defenders. I think they have 6 returners on both sides. I think they'll still be good, but 10-2 is their ceiling in my opinion with Losses @Sparty and @Stanford. I don't think this Duck team is good enough to simply blow the doors off of teams like ASU, SC or UW, either. Just looking at the talent I think this may be the weakest Duck team since some of Chip's earliest versions, especially on defense.
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I think ASU, UCLA, AZ, and USC are huge threats to Oregon next year. My problem with Stanford is that now without Montgomery, they have absolutely nobody on the outside that can threaten teams. They also still lack the bruising tailback needed in their system, maybe a year from now it will be different, but I'm thinking of next year only. UW's offense isn't scaring anybody, Kal is still a year away from challenging the upper North, and WSU and OSU are still WSU and OSU. Oregon is making the PAC 12 title game next year, but the champ could definitely come from the South.
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Oregon does win the north rather easily even with a loss or two as long as one is to a south team. The problem with the south winning it all is the lack of big game coaching ability there. Yes we like to pick on Helfrich but he at least has won a couple of major bowl games and one title game in the Pac. Rich Rod and his Mildcats shit the bed like a Husky team when it counted. UCLA has some strange phobia with Oregon. Mora's inability to even come close is disturbing. Graham is at ASU, nuff said about that. and USC has Sark.

Oregon wins the Pac until USC gets their next great coach or Petersen is who we hope he is.
 
@BallSacked - early days to forecast how Oregon does this fall.

Adams graduates from EWU on June 13 and will be in Eugene on June 14. There are those who think that Oregon's DL will actually be *better* next year, and that the OL should be about the same given that we play the OL in platoon fashion. I have lots of confidence in our line coaches, either way. Adams gives me confidence that Oregon will have a QB capable of managing the game next fall, and who will be able to distribute the ball to the very talented players in the backfield.
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I'm going to wait to see if Canton is as good as advertised, he'll be a freshman afterall. Our defensive backs will be young and inexperienced. The biggest worry I have though, is for the third year in a row, Oregon will have the worst linebackers in D1.
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Joe Walker will start. But yeah, LB is going to be interesting.
 
I think there are valid questions with Adams, but saying this means the Duck's have failed at QB development is wishful thinking. Lockie likely sucks. Mahallak is going to be a redshirt freshman coming off an injury and Waller will be a true freshman and is considered raw by the TBSers. Adams is a bridge guy for a team that wants to win another Pac 12 title instead of going through growing pains with a new QB. Great pick up for Oregon.
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Adams is a good pickup, but I'm pretty sure he doesn't show up in Eugene until July, he still has to graduate from EWU. Oregon losses a bunch of OLs and defenders. I think they have 6 returners on both sides. I think they'll still be good, but 10-2 is their ceiling in my opinion with Losses @Sparty and @Stanford. I don't think this Duck team is good enough to simply blow the doors off of teams like ASU, SC or UW, either. Just looking at the talent I think this may be the weakest Duck team since some of Chip's earliest versions, especially on defense.
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I think ASU, UCLA, AZ, and USC are huge threats to Oregon next year. My problem with Stanford is that now without Montgomery, they have absolutely nobody on the outside that can threaten teams. They also still lack the bruising tailback needed in their system, maybe a year from now it will be different, but I'm thinking of next year only. UW's offense isn't scaring anybody, Kal is still a year away from challenging the upper North, and WSU and OSU are still WSU and OSU. Oregon is making the PAC 12 title game next year, but the champ could definitely come from the South.
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Disagree with your take on Stanford. Cajuste and Rector are pretty good. This incoming white WR Trent Irwin is going to be a pain in everyone's ass - watch. BSRYK. I also think Ed McCaffery's son is going to be all-conf level RB at Stanford. He's got size and quickness. Moreover I really like the RB they got out of Portland. He's the biggest RB they've had since Toby Gerhart.

Stanford will be good again this year.
 
As usually, o/u 5 games until VA is cut in half and AZQuook makes another "Doogasm in full effect, I see" post.
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Best part is, this poast is completely accurate because UO probably still beats UW and the Cuogs without Adams, and probably finishes with better overall record as well.

"Beat Oregon, nothing else matters"

Yup.
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It's funny how you're constantly shitting out "Beat Oregon, nothing else matters" when the pico-second Adams commits you go on and post it on a husky message board.

Quook.
 
Maybe it's just abundance, but I find it fascinating how some of you are more excited about a potential Oregon drop off than a potential rise in Husky football. Hate to break it to you, but even if Oregon flounders, Stanford is still better than you, and Kal (crazy I know) is improving, and not that far behind you. After that, there's 4 teams in the South that are better than UW. Oregon falling, would be sure nice for you to see, but unless you get your shit together, it's not going to help you one bit.
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Having a realistic shot at beating Oregon is what gets people excited (because nothing else matters).

You Ducks are getting nervous because:

- Warshington is actually serious about football and has a good coach

- Kelly is gone and the replacement is coasting off of his success.
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Disagree.

Peterman had a very mixed first year at UW. I guess the argument is that he kind of wrote off year one as rebuilding, but I don't understand the logic that goes into that.

I haven't seen any significant indicators of regression by Helfrich.
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Rich Brooks and his 17 year plan to lose the Rose Bowl does.

Washington in reality is a bottom level football program. You don't change that in a year.

Where I have always differed from doogs is that I think we need to see something really good this year and a real program by year 3. But year 1 is a throw away. Change the culture and all that
 
As usually, o/u 5 games until VA is cut in half and AZQuook makes another "Doogasm in full effect, I see" post.
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Best part is, this poast is completely accurate because UO probably still beats UW and the Cuogs without Adams, and probably finishes with better overall record as well.

"Beat Oregon, nothing else matters"

Yup.
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It's funny how you're constantly shitting out "Beat Oregon, nothing else matters" when the pico-second Adams commits you go on and post it on a husky message board.

Quook.
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I *live* here.

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our cute little ducks have become quite rabid since they got bucked in the eye

I always knew we would be able to troll ducks again I just had no idea it would happen so soon.

Vernon Adams beat* Washington, nothing else matters.

If I were a duck fan I'd point out that Oregon could beat Washington with Cyler Miles as their quarterback
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About being rabid, I did go into hading for nearly a month, so there's that.

Cyler Miles would be a nice one-liner, but I think everybody knows Cyler Miles is horrible, and he'd individually give UW a "punchers chance" next year if he played for Oregon. Miles will be the 11th best starter in the Pac 12 going into next year, with a small edge over whoever OSU decides to start.
 
I would say the Broons phobia is with Stanford. For some inexplicable reason they look worse than the doogs troojs or soon doovils do vs the Trees. And we have to play those guys every year.
 
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