Black eye for Oregon

[Bob_C]

https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/morning-consult-poll-donald-trump-gop/2023/10/03/id/1136792/

Not only do potential GOP primary voters side with Trump by 48 points over Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis and the rest of the field, but 61% say Trump has the best chance of beating President Joe Biden.

That matches his overall support in the GOP primary field, according to the poll:

Trump 61%
DeSantis 13%
South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley 7%
Entrepreneur Vivek Ramaswamy 7%
Former Vice President Mike Pence 5%
Former New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie 3%
Sen. Tim Scott, R-S.C., 1%
North Dakota Gov. Doug Burgum 1%
Former Arkansas Gov. Asa Hutchinson 0%
Trump outperforms DeSantis against Biden, too, drawing 4 more points in support their head-to-heads. DeSantis trails Biden by 3 points 42%-39%.

Trump never threatened a veto he fully supported the bill. Got any other pathetic deflections?

Agreed it was terrible. Only a few libertarian types were against it in the moment. It's revisionist history to suggest otherwise. The people wanted it.

 

[SFGbob]

https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/morning-consult-poll-donald-trump-gop/2023/10/03/id/1136792/

Not only do potential GOP primary voters side with Trump by 48 points over Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis and the rest of the field, but 61% say Trump has the best chance of beating President Joe Biden.

That matches his overall support in the GOP primary field, according to the poll:

Trump 61%
DeSantis 13%
South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley 7%
Entrepreneur Vivek Ramaswamy 7%
Former Vice President Mike Pence 5%
Former New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie 3%
Sen. Tim Scott, R-S.C., 1%
North Dakota Gov. Doug Burgum 1%
Former Arkansas Gov. Asa Hutchinson 0%
Trump outperforms DeSantis against Biden, too, drawing 4 more points in support their head-to-heads. DeSantis trails Biden by 3 points 42%-39%.

Trump never threatened a veto he fully supported the bill. Got any other pathetic deflections?

Agreed it was terrible. Only a few libertarian types were against it in the moment. It's revisionist history to suggest otherwise. The people wanted it.

The only people revising history are the people claiming that Trump only signed it due to it being passed by a Veto proof majority and that a President isn't responsible for legislation that he signs.

 

[SFGbob]

Ron wants to make it an issue he needs to answer for locking down Florida

And taking that federal covid cash

Doesn't matter he's toast anyway

Weird how you don't address the $2.2 Trillion spending bill that Trump signed, and it's impact on inflation.[/b] Yeah, I'm sure DeSantis is somehow to blame for that as well.

Could you define the exact scenarios with and without that bill in place? I could make a reasonable guess, can you?

Trying to lay the entire inflation problem at the foot of Trump is H levels of disingenuous. I doubt that's what RDS means to do but that's exactly what its going to get spun into...which for RDS is either a terribly politically naive move or politically desperate in nature. Both of those things are reasons he's not up for what's at stake.

Go easy on that straw man's ass. I've not tried to lay the entire inflation problem on Trump. But I'm not such a sycophant that I'm willing to say that Trump isn't responsible for legislation he signed. This isn't a "DeSantis pitch" this is what's known as a fact. And all your flailing around and strawman ass fuckery does nothing to refute this fact.

Key endorsement for DeSantis
http://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1707205521562890589?t=pqBnBlg0yqUklP4KWfQSUQ&s=19

You sound triggered and defensive. Kind of like a sycophant that can't handle criticism of their cult figure.

Did DeSantis blame Trump for inflation? Yes.

Naunce is going to get ignored, like I said. So did DeSantis do that knowingly or unknowingly?

Now do you want to discuss the nuance or are you going to go back to ass man talk?

Who cares what DeSantis says? This isn't about DeSantis. Did Trump's spending have anything to do with our current inflation rate? Yes or no? DeSantis has nothing to do with it.

 

[Bob_C]

https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/morning-consult-poll-donald-trump-gop/2023/10/03/id/1136792/

Not only do potential GOP primary voters side with Trump by 48 points over Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis and the rest of the field, but 61% say Trump has the best chance of beating President Joe Biden.

That matches his overall support in the GOP primary field, according to the poll:

Trump 61%
DeSantis 13%
South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley 7%
Entrepreneur Vivek Ramaswamy 7%
Former Vice President Mike Pence 5%
Former New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie 3%
Sen. Tim Scott, R-S.C., 1%
North Dakota Gov. Doug Burgum 1%
Former Arkansas Gov. Asa Hutchinson 0%
Trump outperforms DeSantis against Biden, too, drawing 4 more points in support their head-to-heads. DeSantis trails Biden by 3 points 42%-39%.

Trump never threatened a veto he fully supported the bill. Got any other pathetic deflections?

Agreed it was terrible. Only a few libertarian types were against it in the moment. It's revisionist history to suggest otherwise. The people wanted it.

The only people revising history are the people claiming that Trump only signed it due to it being passed by a Veto proof majority and that a President isn't responsible for legislation that he signs.

True. I blame him for his part. He would have lost in a landslide had he been against it.

There is also zero evidence that Ron was against the CARES act in the moment. He can pretend otherwise, but there aren't any receipts.

Only Massie has the receipts.

 

[RaceBannon]

I would submit that the reason Trump is doing so much better with independent voters and women is twofold

Biden and the democrats are insane

Trump actually did take covid seriously and tried to avoid crashing the economy.

If Trump is responsible for inflation he's also responsible for the most jobs created in history as in the people going back to work that Biden takes credit for. Yes it's bullshit but still

If this has nothing to do with DeSantis who is desperately trying to find an issue then what does it have to do with?

 

[UW_Doog_Bot]

Ron wants to make it an issue he needs to answer for locking down Florida

And taking that federal covid cash

Doesn't matter he's toast anyway

Weird how you don't address the $2.2 Trillion spending bill that Trump signed, and it's impact on inflation.[/b] Yeah, I'm sure DeSantis is somehow to blame for that as well.

Could you define the exact scenarios with and without that bill in place? I could make a reasonable guess, can you?

Trying to lay the entire inflation problem at the foot of Trump is H levels of disingenuous. I doubt that's what RDS means to do but that's exactly what its going to get spun into...which for RDS is either a terribly politically naive move or politically desperate in nature. Both of those things are reasons he's not up for what's at stake.

Go easy on that straw man's ass. I've not tried to lay the entire inflation problem on Trump. But I'm not such a sycophant that I'm willing to say that Trump isn't responsible for legislation he signed. This isn't a "DeSantis pitch" this is what's known as a fact. And all your flailing around and strawman ass fuckery does nothing to refute this fact.

Key endorsement for DeSantis
http://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1707205521562890589?t=pqBnBlg0yqUklP4KWfQSUQ&s=19

You sound triggered and defensive. Kind of like a sycophant that can't handle criticism of their cult figure.

Did DeSantis blame Trump for inflation? Yes.

Naunce is going to get ignored, like I said. So did DeSantis do that knowingly or unknowingly?

Now do you want to discuss the nuance or are you going to go back to ass man talk?

Who cares what DeSantis says? This isn't about DeSantis. Did Trump's spending have anything to do with our current inflation rate? Yes or no? DeSantis has nothing to do with it.

Sure it caused inflation....and kept us from further deflation.

Then Biden took something around 2% inflation which would have been healthy and quadrupled it.

Something something straw man.

 

[SFGbob]

Ron wants to make it an issue he needs to answer for locking down Florida

And taking that federal covid cash

Doesn't matter he's toast anyway

Weird how you don't address the $2.2 Trillion spending bill that Trump signed, and it's impact on inflation.[/b] Yeah, I'm sure DeSantis is somehow to blame for that as well.

Could you define the exact scenarios with and without that bill in place? I could make a reasonable guess, can you?

Trying to lay the entire inflation problem at the foot of Trump is H levels of disingenuous. I doubt that's what RDS means to do but that's exactly what its going to get spun into...which for RDS is either a terribly politically naive move or politically desperate in nature. Both of those things are reasons he's not up for what's at stake.

Go easy on that straw man's ass. I've not tried to lay the entire inflation problem on Trump. But I'm not such a sycophant that I'm willing to say that Trump isn't responsible for legislation he signed. This isn't a "DeSantis pitch" this is what's known as a fact. And all your flailing around and strawman ass fuckery does nothing to refute this fact.

Key endorsement for DeSantis
http://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1707205521562890589?t=pqBnBlg0yqUklP4KWfQSUQ&s=19

You sound triggered and defensive. Kind of like a sycophant that can't handle criticism of their cult figure.

Did DeSantis blame Trump for inflation? Yes.

Naunce is going to get ignored, like I said. So did DeSantis do that knowingly or unknowingly?

Now do you want to discuss the nuance or are you going to go back to ass man talk?

Who cares what DeSantis says? This isn't about DeSantis. Did Trump's spending have anything to do with our current inflation rate? Yes or no? DeSantis has nothing to do with it.

Sure it caused inflation....and kept us from further deflation.

Then Biden took something around 2% inflation which would have been healthy and quadrupled it.

Something something straw man.

Why do you blame Biden for all the inflation? [/i]

That's a straw man. Thought I'd help you out since you appear to be confused.

Trump's spending, which was outrageous, is also to blame for the current rates of inflation. That fact has nothing to do with DeSantis.

 

[UW_Doog_Bot]

Ron wants to make it an issue he needs to answer for locking down Florida

And taking that federal covid cash

Doesn't matter he's toast anyway

Weird how you don't address the $2.2 Trillion spending bill that Trump signed, and it's impact on inflation.[/b] Yeah, I'm sure DeSantis is somehow to blame for that as well.

Could you define the exact scenarios with and without that bill in place? I could make a reasonable guess, can you?

Trying to lay the entire inflation problem at the foot of Trump is H levels of disingenuous. I doubt that's what RDS means to do but that's exactly what its going to get spun into...which for RDS is either a terribly politically naive move or politically desperate in nature. Both of those things are reasons he's not up for what's at stake.

Go easy on that straw man's ass. I've not tried to lay the entire inflation problem on Trump. But I'm not such a sycophant that I'm willing to say that Trump isn't responsible for legislation he signed. This isn't a "DeSantis pitch" this is what's known as a fact. And all your flailing around and strawman ass fuckery does nothing to refute this fact.

Key endorsement for DeSantis
http://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1707205521562890589?t=pqBnBlg0yqUklP4KWfQSUQ&s=19

You sound triggered and defensive. Kind of like a sycophant that can't handle criticism of their cult figure.

Did DeSantis blame Trump for inflation? Yes.

Naunce is going to get ignored, like I said. So did DeSantis do that knowingly or unknowingly?

Now do you want to discuss the nuance or are you going to go back to ass man talk?

Who cares what DeSantis says? This isn't about DeSantis. Did Trump's spending have anything to do with our current inflation rate? Yes or no? DeSantis has nothing to do with it.

Sure it caused inflation....and kept us from further deflation.

Then Biden took something around 2% inflation which would have been healthy and quadrupled it.

Something something straw man.

Why do you blame Biden for all the inflation? [/i]

That's a straw man. Thought I'd help you out since you appear to be confused.

Trump's spending, which was outrageous, is also to blame for the current rates of inflation. That fact has nothing to do with DeSantis.

I blame Biden's spending for the majority of inflation bc you know, that's the cause for the majority of it.

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Keep playing games with binary arguments I guess.

 

[haie]

Ron wants to make it an issue he needs to answer for locking down Florida

And taking that federal covid cash

Doesn't matter he's toast anyway

Weird how you don't address the $2.2 Trillion spending bill that Trump signed, and it's impact on inflation.[/b] Yeah, I'm sure DeSantis is somehow to blame for that as well.

Could you define the exact scenarios with and without that bill in place? I could make a reasonable guess, can you?

Trying to lay the entire inflation problem at the foot of Trump is H levels of disingenuous. I doubt that's what RDS means to do but that's exactly what its going to get spun into...which for RDS is either a terribly politically naive move or politically desperate in nature. Both of those things are reasons he's not up for what's at stake.

Go easy on that straw man's ass. I've not tried to lay the entire inflation problem on Trump. But I'm not such a sycophant that I'm willing to say that Trump isn't responsible for legislation he signed. This isn't a "DeSantis pitch" this is what's known as a fact. And all your flailing around and strawman ass fuckery does nothing to refute this fact.

Key endorsement for DeSantis
http://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1707205521562890589?t=pqBnBlg0yqUklP4KWfQSUQ&s=19

You sound triggered and defensive. Kind of like a sycophant that can't handle criticism of their cult figure.

Did DeSantis blame Trump for inflation? Yes.

Naunce is going to get ignored, like I said. So did DeSantis do that knowingly or unknowingly?

Now do you want to discuss the nuance or are you going to go back to ass man talk?

Who cares what DeSantis says? This isn't about DeSantis. Did Trump's spending have anything to do with our current inflation rate? Yes or no? DeSantis has nothing to do with it.

Sure it caused inflation....and kept us from further deflation.

Then Biden took something around 2% inflation which would have been healthy and quadrupled it.

Something something straw man.

Why do you blame Biden for all the inflation? [/i]

That's a straw man. Thought I'd help you out since you appear to be confused.

Trump's spending, which was outrageous, is also to blame for the current rates of inflation. That fact has nothing to do with DeSantis.

To be fair, Boblet has never figured out what a "strawman" is, or where it comes from, nor has ever taken a philosophy/logic class in college.

That's why he spams the term constantly when he's upset.