Big Picture Thinking

[RoadDawg55]

I discount peenerman's 92-12 because it is minor league heavy. Lots of MLB phenoms who get called up in September look fantastic.

Then they make the roster the next spring and look ordinary or worse against the schedule grind as teams develop books on them. Some then get relegated back to AAA and look great again. Those players are derisively called "AAAA talent." Not quite big leaguers.

That's what I think Peenerman is—AAAA. If he goes 6-6 or worse next season his BCS/P5 record is slouching toward .500 all time.

I don't put all my faith in a career assistant, especially one with helfrieds resume. That said, Chip picked him and endorsed him to run a system. I trust that system and put my faith in that. And whatever hellboys other flaws real or imagined, a poor eye for talent isn't among them. He, not chip, discovered Mariota languishing on the pine as a HS junior and career back-up. Got him an offer before he ever took a snap as a high school starter.

Hellfried doesn't need the poor passing Braxton Miller. He's picked up some good talent since Mariota's signing. I think he'll find at least one serviceable QB among the three-to-five he'll have to choose from and turn to Royce Freeman, also a Hellboy recruit, behind a youthful and forced to be experienced offensive line, to carry the offense early next year while that new QB finds his game.

Should Hellboy get to the playoff, and get to the Dallas game, a sad realization will start to set in here. He will have done that mainly behind the efforts of offensive players he recruited as OC or as HC, because many of the young WRs, the young plugged in offensive linemen filling in for injured veterans, the new star RB, and "old" Mariota himself, are pieces he identified and signed, most since Chip has been gone.

But you have 92-12, which is deteriorating against top drawer competition. You're welcome to it.

Helfrich deserves credit, although the true test will be the next two years. Larry Coker and the others kept it going for a few years before failing. Give it another year or two before popping off.

I can't argue about Petersen. Many are stuck on his resume, but the Boise coaches before him were successful and didn't succeed at their next stops.

There are many other coaches with great previous resumes that ended up failing. Rich Rodriguez at Michigan is another example. No coaching hire is a guarantee, especially ones from lower levels.

 

[MikeDamone]

I discount peenerman's 92-12 because it is minor league heavy. Lots of MLB phenoms who get called up in September look fantastic.

Then they make the roster the next spring and look ordinary or worse against the schedule grind as teams develop books on them. Some then get relegated back to AAA and look great again. Those players are derisively called "AAAA talent." Not quite big leaguers.

That's what I think Peenerman is—AAAA. If he goes 6-6 or worse next season his BCS/P5 record is slouching toward .500 all time.

I don't put all my faith in a career assistant, especially one with helfrieds resume. That said, Chip picked him and endorsed him to run a system. I trust that system and put my faith in that. And whatever hellboys other flaws real or imagined, a poor eye for talent isn't among them. He, not chip, discovered Mariota languishing on the pine as a HS junior and career back-up. Got him an offer before he ever took a snap as a high school starter.

Hellfried doesn't need the poor passing Braxton Miller. He's picked up some good talent since Mariota's signing. I think he'll find at least one serviceable QB among the three-to-five he'll have to choose from and turn to Royce Freeman, also a Hellboy recruit, behind a youthful and forced to be experienced offensive line, to carry the offense early next year while that new QB finds his game.

Should Hellboy get to the playoff, and get to the Dallas game, a sad realization will start to set in here. He will have done that mainly behind the efforts of offensive players he recruited as OC or as HC, because many of the young WRs, the young plugged in offensive linemen filling in for injured veterans, the new star RB, and "old" Mariota himself, are pieces he identified and signed, most since Chip has been gone.

But you have 92-12, which is deteriorating against top drawer competition. You're welcome to it.

And Steve Empterman was a 1 star recruit.

He was actually a 2 star. Only offers were from WSU, EWU, Idaho,and some JC's I believe.

 

[MikeDamone]

I discount peenerman's 92-12 because it is minor league heavy. Lots of MLB phenoms who get called up in September look fantastic.

Then they make the roster the next spring and look ordinary or worse against the schedule grind as teams develop books on them. Some then get relegated back to AAA and look great again. Those players are derisively called "AAAA talent." Not quite big leaguers.

That's what I think Peenerman is—AAAA. If he goes 6-6 or worse next season his BCS/P5 record is slouching toward .500 all time.

I don't put all my faith in a career assistant, especially one with helfrieds resume. That said, Chip picked him and endorsed him to run a system. I trust that system and put my faith in that. And whatever hellboys other flaws real or imagined, a poor eye for talent isn't among them. He, not chip, discovered Mariota languishing on the pine as a HS junior and career back-up. Got him an offer before he ever took a snap as a high school starter.

Hellfried doesn't need the poor passing Braxton Miller. He's picked up some good talent since Mariota's signing. I think he'll find at least one serviceable QB among the three-to-five he'll have to choose from and turn to Royce Freeman, also a Hellboy recruit, behind a youthful and forced to be experienced offensive line, to carry the offense early next year while that new QB finds his game.

Should Hellboy get to the playoff, and get to the Dallas game, a sad realization will start to set in here. He will have done that mainly behind the efforts of offensive players he recruited as OC or as HC, because many of the young WRs, the young plugged in offensive linemen filling in for injured veterans, the new star RB, and "old" Mariota himself, are pieces he identified and signed, most since Chip has been gone.

But you have 92-12, which is deteriorating against top drawer competition. You're welcome to it.

Helfrich deserves credit, although the true test will be the next two years. Larry Coker and the others kept it going for a few years before failing. Give it another year or two before popping off.

I can't argue about Petersen. Many are stuck on his resume, but the Boise coaches before him were successful and didn't succeed at their next stops.

There are many other coaches with great previous resumes that ended up failing. Rich Rodriguez at Michigan is another example. No coaching hire is a guarantee, especially ones from lower levels.

This was truly an example of He Needs More Time.

 

[RoadDawg55]

I discount peenerman's 92-12 because it is minor league heavy. Lots of MLB phenoms who get called up in September look fantastic.

Then they make the roster the next spring and look ordinary or worse against the schedule grind as teams develop books on them. Some then get relegated back to AAA and look great again. Those players are derisively called "AAAA talent." Not quite big leaguers.

That's what I think Peenerman is—AAAA. If he goes 6-6 or worse next season his BCS/P5 record is slouching toward .500 all time.

I don't put all my faith in a career assistant, especially one with helfrieds resume. That said, Chip picked him and endorsed him to run a system. I trust that system and put my faith in that. And whatever hellboys other flaws real or imagined, a poor eye for talent isn't among them. He, not chip, discovered Mariota languishing on the pine as a HS junior and career back-up. Got him an offer before he ever took a snap as a high school starter.

Hellfried doesn't need the poor passing Braxton Miller. He's picked up some good talent since Mariota's signing. I think he'll find at least one serviceable QB among the three-to-five he'll have to choose from and turn to Royce Freeman, also a Hellboy recruit, behind a youthful and forced to be experienced offensive line, to carry the offense early next year while that new QB finds his game.

Should Hellboy get to the playoff, and get to the Dallas game, a sad realization will start to set in here. He will have done that mainly behind the efforts of offensive players he recruited as OC or as HC, because many of the young WRs, the young plugged in offensive linemen filling in for injured veterans, the new star RB, and "old" Mariota himself, are pieces he identified and signed, most since Chip has been gone.

But you have 92-12, which is deteriorating against top drawer competition. You're welcome to it.

Helfrich deserves credit, although the true test will be the next two years. Larry Coker and the others kept it going for a few years before failing. Give it another year or two before popping off.

I can't argue about Petersen. Many are stuck on his resume, but the Boise coaches before him were successful and didn't succeed at their next stops.

There are many other coaches with great previous resumes that ended up failing. Rich Rodriguez at Michigan is another example. No coaching hire is a guarantee, especially ones from lower levels.

This was truly an example of He Needs More Time.

Disagree. The energy and morale around the program was fucked with Rich Rod as coach. Michigan just fucked up the next hire.

 

[topdawgnc]

I discount peenerman's 92-12 because it is minor league heavy. Lots of MLB phenoms who get called up in September look fantastic.

Then they make the roster the next spring and look ordinary or worse against the schedule grind as teams develop books on them. Some then get relegated back to AAA and look great again. Those players are derisively called "AAAA talent." Not quite big leaguers.

That's what I think Peenerman is—AAAA. If he goes 6-6 or worse next season his BCS/P5 record is slouching toward .500 all time.

I don't put all my faith in a career assistant, especially one with helfrieds resume. That said, Chip picked him and endorsed him to run a system. I trust that system and put my faith in that. And whatever hellboys other flaws real or imagined, a poor eye for talent isn't among them. He, not chip, discovered Mariota languishing on the pine as a HS junior and career back-up. Got him an offer before he ever took a snap as a high school starter.

Hellfried doesn't need the poor passing Braxton Miller. He's picked up some good talent since Mariota's signing. I think he'll find at least one serviceable QB among the three-to-five he'll have to choose from and turn to Royce Freeman, also a Hellboy recruit, behind a youthful and forced to be experienced offensive line, to carry the offense early next year while that new QB finds his game.

Should Hellboy get to the playoff, and get to the Dallas game, a sad realization will start to set in here. He will have done that mainly behind the efforts of offensive players he recruited as OC or as HC, because many of the young WRs, the young plugged in offensive linemen filling in for injured veterans, the new star RB, and "old" Mariota himself, are pieces he identified and signed, most since Chip has been gone.

But you have 92-12, which is deteriorating against top drawer competition. You're welcome to it.

Helfrich deserves credit, although the true test will be the next two years. Larry Coker and the others kept it going for a few years before failing. Give it another year or two before popping off.

I can't argue about Petersen. Many are stuck on his resume, but the Boise coaches before him were successful and didn't succeed at their next stops.

There are many other coaches with great previous resumes that ended up failing. Rich Rodriguez at Michigan is another example. No coaching hire is a guarantee, especially ones from lower levels.

This was truly an example of He Needs More Time.

Disagree. The energy and morale around the program was fucked with Rich Rod as coach. Michigan just fucked up the next hire.

Rich Rod had to go.

He's nothing special at Arizona. If he doesn't beat Oregon ... nobodies talking about him.

 

[Canard]

Signing Freeman was also a happy accident. As was Devon Allen, Tyrell Crosby, and the redshirting players and incoming Freshmen who will kick dawg ass in Seattle next season.

The proof was trucking your guys all over the field back in October. Lots of the Ducks involved in that plungering are true Frosh or Sophs, or RSFrosh. Your willful blindness that the current staff ain't Lambo or Coker and Co. will eventually clear up.

Is he Chip? No, but that doesn't automatically doom him either. Our OC to HC promotions have a track record of success.

 

[topdawgnc]

Signing Freeman was also a happy accident. As was Devon Allen, Tyrell Crosby, and the redshirting players and incoming Freshmen who will kick dawg ass in Seattle next season.

The proof was trucking your guys all over the field back in October. Lots of the Ducks involved in that plungering are true Frosh or Sophs, or RSFrosh. Your willful blindness that the current staff ain't Lambo or Coker and Co. will eventually clear up.

Is he Chip? No, but that doesn't automatically doom him either. Our OC to HC promotions have a track record of success.

Is it Boise? No, but that doesn't automatically doom Peterman either. That is my point.

And you have one track record of success. I don't consider Bellotti a home run ... he kept the program from going in the ditch until Chip took it to the next level.

 

[Canard]

Bellotti was an improvement upon Brooks, no two ways about it.