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Even if the death by vaccine numbers are right (like HuskyJW, I don't think they are remotely close to accurate as major cities are not losing 100s of people to the flu vaccine each year), those diseases have outcomes other than death, most of which aren't exactly good.
I’m highly skeptical of the source here and the data points.
But even if you took it at face value, what was the risk of death pre most of these diseases pre/post most of them being mostly irradiated my vaccines. Look at the polio stat line for example. Risk of polio death at 1 / 50 billion? That’s a vaccine success story.
Or look at the 2018 American Samona measles outbreak which was literally let’s run a get rid of herd immunity experiment with 34 percent MMR jab intake. 83 dead kids in population of 200,000.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Samoa_measles_outbreak
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TRUMP: "If they're dangerous for the children."
"If you take a look at autism, you go back 25 years. Autism was almost nonexistent. It was, you know, one out of 100,000 and now it's close to one out of 100."
"Something is going on. I don't know if it's vaccines. Maybe it's maybe it's chlorine in the water, right? People are looking at a lot of different things. I want them to look at everything."
Trump issued a nuanced take - saying some vaccines are great, but he still wants them looked into.
"Maybe some aren't. If they aren't, we have to find out."
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"If you take a look at autism, you go back 25 years. Autism was almost nonexistent. It was, you know, one out of 100,000 and now it's close to one out of 100."
"Something is going on. I don't know if it's vaccines. Maybe it's maybe it's chlorine in the water, right? People are looking at a lot of different things. I want them to look at everything."
Trump issued a nuanced take - saying some vaccines are great, but he still wants them looked into.
"Maybe some aren't. If they aren't, we have to find out."
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Dr Anthony Chaffee says that he has seen studies that link autism and veganism
Fine. Investigate away. If someone can prove a link between childhood vaccines and autism, I'm open to hearing to hearing it.
In the meantime as a parent, I have to put my trust in my pediatrician and get on with life.
EsophagealFeces
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My wife’s cousin died at 6 months old after a round of vaccines
I should have copy pasta'd the twitter link but an astounding number of SIDS deaths were immediately after a wellness visit. Something like 67% within a day or so.
Even if it was 6.7%, that's too high.
priapism
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Flu vaccines trigger a flu in some people. I've heard of people dying from them. Flu vaccines are nearly worthless a handful of months later, because the flu virus mutates so rapidly.
I had a really bad reaction to a tetanus shot when 5 years old. I haven't had bad reactions to them since, though.
I had a really bad reaction to a tetanus shot when 5 years old. I haven't had bad reactions to them since, though.
I saw that graphic. 79% or something crazy. It registered in my head because it was damn near 80. A huge number.
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I haven’t gotten a flu shot in years. No concerns over it, per se. I’m just lazy AF.
whatshouldicareabout
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Can you find that? I'd like to look at that study
whatshouldicareabout
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I think the difference between groups is what would be considered acceptable risks in safety
You see it a lot in chemo where the drugs are very toxic (likely outcome) but they could cure or extend life (unknown outcome). People are willing to risk going through the known toxic side effects for a chance to improve their life whereas others would not take that risk and rather live the remainder of their days without toxic side effects (or the toxic cost of drugs)
I think the argument that'll eventually happen from this investigation is how much risk are people willing to take
If it pops back up in my timeline. I should have bookmarked it. Pretty sure I was reaching peak edibles at the time.
@pawz saw the same thing.
I have never gotten a flu shot. Also have never gotten the flu.
Seriously FUCK VANILLA
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I definitely saw the graphic. It needed to be vetted and I didn’t have the time at the moment — which is also the reason I didn’t repost it in real time.
I’ll poke around and see if I can find it this morning.
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EDIT: I could not find it again.
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I don't believe you that you've never had a flu virus in your lifetime. Just saying…
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If I have had the flu, it wasn't something I noticed or would say I was dramatically sick.