Bernie Sanders has introduced legislation that would make a 32-hour workweek the standard in America

EverettChris

EverettChris

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No loss in weekly pay. I’m sure no business owner would mind eating a 20% loss in productivity compared to employees’ wages.
Bernie’s never worked an honest day in his life, let alone had to make a payroll.

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I've never worked a 40 hour week since high school because I like money
If you own your business you work 24/7
If you want someone to pay you a lot and make you the boss you work an easy 60
I've always said that being in construction is like being a doctor only it pays less
People don't start a business so you can have a life work balance. Grow up and fuck off
 
4 days a week but you go hard and have expectations of doing so is more productive for the average worker imo.
32 hours total is lame though.
 
Pitchfork51 said:
the whole 9-5 thing for lots of jobs is pretty outdated imo
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These fucking boomers man. Still think that working at home equals fucking off. I've explained how not sitting in traffic is highly productive but the old habits die hard. As a cub I'd go in every Saturday whether I needed to or not. Fuck that now

Nobody has ever out worked the owner.
 
I worked 3 12's and every third week was 4 12's. Loved it!
Building the business was 6 or 7 days 15 hours a day.
 
RaceBannon said:
Pitchfork51 said:
the whole 9-5 thing for lots of jobs is pretty outdated imo
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These fucking boomers man. Still think that working at home equals fucking off. I've explained how not sitting in traffic is highly productive but the old habits die hard. As a cub I'd go in every Saturday whether I needed to or not. Fuck that now

Nobody has ever out worked the owner.
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For focus work and productivity id say working at home is prob best. But on the flip side people are fucking insane when they say there are no downsides to it with regards to collaboration and such.

Especially for younger or junior folks who benefit from being around more experienced people etc
 
Pitchfork51 said:
RaceBannon said:
Pitchfork51 said:
the whole 9-5 thing for lots of jobs is pretty outdated imo
Click to expand...
These fucking boomers man. Still think that working at home equals fucking off. I've explained how not sitting in traffic is highly productive but the old habits die hard. As a cub I'd go in every Saturday whether I needed to or not. Fuck that now

Nobody has ever out worked the owner.
Click to expand...
For focus work and productivity id say working at home is prob best. But on the flip side people are fucking insane when they say there are no downsides to it with regards to collaboration and such.

Especially for younger or junior folks who benefit from being around more experienced people etc
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That's about right. Training up younger people is hard remotely. Also fully lost in remote work is all of the soft intel that you get from 30 second conversations with people you would never have a direct reason to schedule a zoom call with. Makes it harder to identify problems early on.
 
Thinking about this a bit more, it's a brilliant idea- but it doesn't go far enough. Lower the number of working hours to 16/week ….AND Raise the minimum wage to $100/hr and we all live like kings.
Who can argue this logic?
 
georgiaduck said:
Thinking about this a bit more, it's a brilliant idea- but it doesn't go far enough. Lower the number of working hours to 16/week ….AND Raise the minimum wage to $100/hr and we all live like kings.
Who can argue this logic?
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Makes sense. Cuog sense.
 
Pitchfork51 said:
RaceBannon said:
Pitchfork51 said:
the whole 9-5 thing for lots of jobs is pretty outdated imo
Click to expand...
These fucking boomers man. Still think that working at home equals fucking off. I've explained how not sitting in traffic is highly productive but the old habits die hard. As a cub I'd go in every Saturday whether I needed to or not. Fuck that now

Nobody has ever out worked the owner.
Click to expand...
For focus work and productivity id say working at home is prob best. But on the flip side people are fucking insane when they say there are no downsides to it with regards to collaboration and such.

Especially for younger or junior folks who benefit from being around more experienced people etc
Click to expand...
Trouble is convincing senior people THEY need to be in the office to hold other peoples hands. We have kids and other responsibilities and shit. I don't need a 2nd set at work.
Pay me to be a trainer and we'll talk. Until then, the interns can drown for all I care.
I'm not saying you're wrong, just that what companies used to get for free as a bonus they now need to pay a premium for for the value.
Id add that the younger generation is so socially retarded they struggle to gain value from enforced socialization anyways.
 
Just cut their wage by 20% and staff and replace as many as possible with illegals like Tyson is doing.
 
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UW_Doog_Bot said:
Pitchfork51 said:
RaceBannon said:
Pitchfork51 said:
the whole 9-5 thing for lots of jobs is pretty outdated imo
Click to expand...
These fucking boomers man. Still think that working at home equals fucking off. I've explained how not sitting in traffic is highly productive but the old habits die hard. As a cub I'd go in every Saturday whether I needed to or not. Fuck that now

Nobody has ever out worked the owner.
Click to expand...
For focus work and productivity id say working at home is prob best. But on the flip side people are fucking insane when they say there are no downsides to it with regards to collaboration and such.

Especially for younger or junior folks who benefit from being around more experienced people etc
Click to expand...
Trouble is convincing senior people THEY need to be in the office to hold other peoples hands. We have kids and other responsibilities and shit. I don't need a 2nd set at work.
Pay me to be a trainer and we'll talk. Until then, the interns can drown for all I care.
I'm not saying you're wrong, just that what companies used to get for free as a bonus they now need to pay a premium for for the value.
Id add that the younger generation is so socially retarded they struggle to gain value from enforced socialization anyways.
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oh I agree they now need to sweeten the pot.
 
So out of the gate, 20% fewer hours to produce, which means more headcount for the same input hours. And supposedly we have 4% unemployment. Luckily we have the border to fill in the labor pool.
 
How we work likely needs to be revisited based on the type of work that is being done and on top of that the way that the COVID years changed some realities
There are some jobs where being present is just the requirement … you can't short cut the blue collar jobs
As Race noted, in an office setting, there's value in being present and having in person meetings. A flex/hybrid likely works in these environments and the big question there is the frequency of those interactions and how to incorporate a remote workforce.
This idea that you lose productivity in a corporate environment to me is idiotic for a couple of reasons. First, while there is some value-add to in-person interactions there's also a lot of corporate BS that takes place with people treating the workplace like an extended version of high school and college social time. I guarantee you that people waste 2 hours a day on average with worthless meetings, garbage conversations, etc.
The biggest area that needs to be revisited is training up and developing younger staff and how that works out … it's a giant gap in the remote/hybrid environment.
 
It all sounds like a plan to cut American citizen workers and use illegals if you ask me. Why else are we importing another 20 million illegals on top of the 40-50 million already here.
 
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