Beaver football might be on the right track

[GrundleStiltzkin]

Oregon State will have some decent years under Andersen. 8 wins this year.

Wins:
Port. St.
Minnie
Colorado St.
Cal
Arizona
ASU

Losses:
WSU
UW
USC
Stanford

Toss ups:
Colorado
Oregon

7-5 regular season. Mid-tier bowl is likely win which takes us(?) to 8-5 and OSU doubles the previous years win total for 2 years in a row.

Cook it.

Oh Benny Benny Benny
1st of all, Gary has yet to win a road game (including non-conference) and you've got your Beavs winning at Cal and Arizona. Nope, not going to happen, sorry.

Last year you had 5 home conference games and won 3. That's as good as it's going to get for the near future. 2017 you're back to 4 home conference games. Worshington, Colorado, Stanford and ASU. Buffs will be back to shit next year so you've got a chance there. Maybe you finally snag a road win out of your 5 tries next year.

Minnesota is not an automatic win and CSU on the road might be tough too.

Benny, you're getting 4 wins next year TOPS. Your QB situation is so fucked up it actually makes Utah's look good.

I got no beef with you Benny, can't fault a guy for being enthusiastic but I think you're at least 2 years away from bowl. 4-5 wins next year would be boner worthy.

You keep referencing the past and I'm looking forward to next year.

You see it. Zero Pac 12 wins to 3. A team that actually competes and plays hard. Even against UW they played hard.

I learned my lesson with UW in 2015. Teams that play hard all the time and are physical break through. Boovs are a smaller scale UW.

Boovs weren't pussies. The Pac 12 is full of pussy teams. The foundation is there. They are making a jump this year.

Agree

 

[RoadDawg55]

Oregon State does well when their coach's last name ends in "sen" or "son." So they should be improved this year.

What most of the fuckheads around here seem to be neglecting is that, except for one year, Oregon has had top 20 recruiting classes and now has an S&C coach is SERIOUS about working them until their livers literally start bleeding. We also have a good QB again.

Also too, the Civil War is in Autzen. Unless Taggart is a total piece of shit (losing record), we beat the Boovs in our place.

I've never been an Oregon basher or hater at all. In fact, doogs who pretend like Oregon didn't have a historic run piss me off. I genuinely liked watching Oregon play.

I really feel like Taggart is an idiot though. The snakes comment was cringe worthy. He already started the pr campaign about what a big rebuild it's going to take.

 

[IPukeOregonGrellow]

It was year one of Taggert, if you doogs haven't forgotten. You were all defending Pete year 1.

I mean, I've been hearing for years now that Oregon will be back in their rightful place, like there isn't enough money to get this thing rolling again.

I mean, this place claims it isn't the doog haven that it is, that's all I'm saying. You were all dooging when we stomped on you when you were down. I'll LIPO.

It was year 3 for Andersen and year 1 for Taggert taking over that defense. Man this place has turned into a doog cesspool, that's all I'm saying.

Excuse me while I fly up to Vancouver tonight to watch my other shit team get ceremoniously stomped by Boston.

You make it sound like Oregon doesn't take football seriously. Another non-bowel year and Phil Knight will gay marry Chip Kelly and leave his money to him to come back.

 

[IPukeOregonGrellow]

Oregon State does well when their coach's last name ends in "sen" or "son." So they should be improved this year.

What most of the fuckheads around here seem to be neglecting is that, except for one year, Oregon has had top 20 recruiting classes and now has an S&C coach is SERIOUS about working them until their livers literally start bleeding. We also have a good QB again.

Also too, the Civil War is in Autzen. Unless Taggart is a total piece of shit (losing record), we beat the Boovs in our place.

I've never been an Oregon basher or hater at all. In fact, doogs who pretend like Oregon didn't have a historic run piss me off. I genuinely liked watching Oregon play.

I really feel like Taggart is an idiot though. The snakes comment was cringe worthy. He already started the pr campaign about what a big rebuild it's going to take.

Maybe. But he's an idiot that young, edgy black teenagers apparently want to play for. The question that remains is how does he use that talent?

 

[MikeSeaver]

0 to 3 wins in the worst Pac12 in years.

Imagine how bad it would have to be for them to get to 6 wins. They'd have to sweep at home and win a road game. Then manage 2 OOC wins.

Vegas here I come!!!!

 

[dnc]

0 to 3 wins in the worst Pac12 in years.

Imagine how bad it would have to be for them to get to 6 wins. They'd have to sweep at home and win a road game. Then manage 2 OOC wins.

Vegas here I come!!!!

If you're talking about 2016 that's the QPOTY

Pac teams in the final top 5:
2015: 1
2016: 2

Pac teams in the final top 15:
2015: 1
2016: 3

Pac teams in the final top 25:
2015: 3
2016: 5

The only year since 2010 that's even close to as strong as 2016 was 2011 when we? had 3 top 10 teams but nobody else in the top 25. I didn't go back any further than that cause I'm lazy.

Conclusion: The Pac always sucks, 2016 it sucked a little less.

 

[MikeSeaver]

0 to 3 wins in the worst Pac12 in years.

Imagine how bad it would have to be for them to get to 6 wins. They'd have to sweep at home and win a road game. Then manage 2 OOC wins.

Vegas here I come!!!!

If you're talking about 2016 that's the QPOTY

Pac teams in the final top 5:
2015: 1
2016: 2

Pac teams in the final top 15:
2015: 1
2016: 3

Pac teams in the final top 25:
2015: 3
2016: 5

The only year since 2010 that's even close to as strong as 2016 was 2011 when we? had 3 top 10 teams but nobody else in the top 25. I didn't go back any further than that cause I'm lazy.

Conclusion: The Pac always sucks, 2016 it sucked a little less.

It was exceptionally poor this year. Record breaking, really.

4 teams won 2 or fewer conf games. there is not another season to compare that to.

 

[dnc]

0 to 3 wins in the worst Pac12 in years.

Imagine how bad it would have to be for them to get to 6 wins. They'd have to sweep at home and win a road game. Then manage 2 OOC wins.

Vegas here I come!!!!

If you're talking about 2016 that's the QPOTY

Pac teams in the final top 5:
2015: 1
2016: 2

Pac teams in the final top 15:
2015: 1
2016: 3

Pac teams in the final top 25:
2015: 3
2016: 5

The only year since 2010 that's even close to as strong as 2016 was 2011 when we? had 3 top 10 teams but nobody else in the top 25. I didn't go back any further than that cause I'm lazy.

Conclusion: The Pac always sucks, 2016 it sucked a little less.

4 teams won 2 or fewer conf games. theres not another season to compare that too.

I like to judge the strength of the conference by the quality of the bottom four teams, TWILTD.

 

[MikeSeaver]

0 to 3 wins in the worst Pac12 in years.

Imagine how bad it would have to be for them to get to 6 wins. They'd have to sweep at home and win a road game. Then manage 2 OOC wins.

Vegas here I come!!!!

If you're talking about 2016 that's the QPOTY

Pac teams in the final top 5:
2015: 1
2016: 2

Pac teams in the final top 15:
2015: 1
2016: 3

Pac teams in the final top 25:
2015: 3
2016: 5

The only year since 2010 that's even close to as strong as 2016 was 2011 when we? had 3 top 10 teams but nobody else in the top 25. I didn't go back any further than that cause I'm lazy.

Conclusion: The Pac always sucks, 2016 it sucked a little less.

4 teams won 2 or fewer conf games. theres not another season to compare that too.

I like to judge the strength of the conference by the quality of the bottom four teams, TWILTD.

The historically bad bottom 25% of the league doesn't tell any of the story?

Yeah ok.

Happy new year btw.

 

[dnc]

0 to 3 wins in the worst Pac12 in years.

Imagine how bad it would have to be for them to get to 6 wins. They'd have to sweep at home and win a road game. Then manage 2 OOC wins.

Vegas here I come!!!!

If you're talking about 2016 that's the QPOTY

Pac teams in the final top 5:
2015: 1
2016: 2

Pac teams in the final top 15:
2015: 1
2016: 3

Pac teams in the final top 25:
2015: 3
2016: 5

The only year since 2010 that's even close to as strong as 2016 was 2011 when we? had 3 top 10 teams but nobody else in the top 25. I didn't go back any further than that cause I'm lazy.

Conclusion: The Pac always sucks, 2016 it sucked a little less.

4 teams won 2 or fewer conf games. theres not another season to compare that too.

I like to judge the strength of the conference by the quality of the bottom four teams, TWILTD.

The historically bad bottom 25% of the league doesn't tell any of the story?

Yeah ok.

Happy new year btw.

I didn't say it doesn't tell any of it, it certainly doesn't overcome two top 4 teams and 5 in the top 25.

The bottom of the league may have been the worst it's been in years (although 2008 says hi!). The league as a whole was not close to the worst it's been in years.

Happy Black History Month.

 

[MikeSeaver]

0 to 3 wins in the worst Pac12 in years.

Imagine how bad it would have to be for them to get to 6 wins. They'd have to sweep at home and win a road game. Then manage 2 OOC wins.

Vegas here I come!!!!

If you're talking about 2016 that's the QPOTY

Pac teams in the final top 5:
2015: 1
2016: 2

Pac teams in the final top 15:
2015: 1
2016: 3

Pac teams in the final top 25:
2015: 3
2016: 5

The only year since 2010 that's even close to as strong as 2016 was 2011 when we? had 3 top 10 teams but nobody else in the top 25. I didn't go back any further than that cause I'm lazy.

Conclusion: The Pac always sucks, 2016 it sucked a little less.

4 teams won 2 or fewer conf games. theres not another season to compare that too.

I like to judge the strength of the conference by the quality of the bottom four teams, TWILTD.

The historically bad bottom 25% of the league doesn't tell any of the story?

Yeah ok.

Happy new year btw.

I didn't say it doesn't tell any of it, it certainly doesn't overcome two top 4 teams and 5 in the top 25.

The bottom of the league may have been the worst it's been in years (although 2008 says hi!). The league as a whole was not close to the worst it's been in years.

Happy Black History Month.

It's not just the bottom. Only 6 teams qualified for a bowl game.

Find the last time that happened.

It was really, really dire last year. Even more than usual.

 

[RaceBannon]

Has @MikeSeaver always struggled this badly or is it one bad posting year out of 15 good ones?

 

[MikeSeaver]

Has @MikeSeaver always struggled this badly or is it one bad posting year out of 15 good ones?

Fewest bowl teams in forever.
25% of the league won 2 or less conf games for the first time in since forever

I can reel off the horrific bowl results if you'd like. Or revisit how the conference champ spent new years eve imitating an average sorority girl home on "winter" break.

Worst Pac 12 in a long LONG time.

It's all right there in the maths

 

[AZDuck]

Oregon State does well when their coach's last name ends in "sen" or "son." So they should be improved this year.

What most of the fuckheads around here seem to be neglecting is that, except for one year, Oregon has had top 20 recruiting classes and now has an S&C coach is SERIOUS about working them until their livers literally start bleeding. We also have a good QB again.

Also too, the Civil War is in Autzen. Unless Taggart is a total piece of shit (losing record), we beat the Boovs in our place.

I've never been an Oregon basher or hater at all. In fact, doogs who pretend like Oregon didn't have a historic run piss me off. I genuinely liked watching Oregon play.

I really feel like Taggart is an idiot though. The snakes comment was cringe worthy. He already started the pr campaign about what a big rebuild it's going to take.

Maybe. But he's an idiot that young, edgy black teenagers apparently want to play for. The question that remains is how does he use that talent?

The only thing about Taggart that I don't like is getting rid of "Win The Day," it was a good motto and a good tradition for a school that doesn't have much in the way of tradition. He's also not shy about holding people accountable. How many programs would fire newly-hired assistants for a DUI?

Discipline went to hell under Helfrich. It wasn't Sark-at-USC bad, but it was close. So I feel like Taggart is doing a lot of things right and I'm thrilled with the Leavitt and Cristobal hires.

Taggart's teams seem to struggle in their first year, but he's definitely built them up. USF going from 2-10 to 10-2 is a good indicator of that. And he has much more in the way of talent and facilities to work with at Oregon than he's ever had. He needs at least a winning record this year to win my confidence. Double-digits would be nice. It's not like he doesn't have a great QB, a stable of RBs, and a strong receiving corps to build his offense. And Leavitt has been a miracle-worker on Defenses. Even a mediocre defense could put us? in contention for the league title. Watching developments in Eugene with great interest. LIFPO.

 

[Gladstone]

Has @MikeSeaver always struggled this badly or is it one bad posting year out of 15 good ones?

you can almost see the tears in his eyes when he posts

 

[RaceBannon]

Oregon State does well when their coach's last name ends in "sen" or "son." So they should be improved this year.

What most of the fuckheads around here seem to be neglecting is that, except for one year, Oregon has had top 20 recruiting classes and now has an S&C coach is SERIOUS about working them until their livers literally start bleeding. We also have a good QB again.

Also too, the Civil War is in Autzen. Unless Taggart is a total piece of shit (losing record), we beat the Boovs in our place.

I've never been an Oregon basher or hater at all. In fact, doogs who pretend like Oregon didn't have a historic run piss me off. I genuinely liked watching Oregon play.

I really feel like Taggart is an idiot though. The snakes comment was cringe worthy. He already started the pr campaign about what a big rebuild it's going to take.

Maybe. But he's an idiot that young, edgy black teenagers apparently want to play for. The question that remains is how does he use that talent?

The only thing about Taggart that I don't like is getting rid of "Win The Day," it was a good motto and a good tradition for a school that doesn't have much in the way of tradition. He's also not shy about holding people accountable. How many programs would fire newly-hired assistants for a DUI?

Discipline went to hell under Helfrich. It wasn't Sark-at-USC bad, but it was close. So I feel like Taggart is doing a lot of things right and I'm thrilled with the Leavitt and Cristobal hires.

Taggart's teams seem to struggle in their first year, but he's definitely built them up. USF going from 2-10 to 10-2 is a good indicator of that. And he has much more in the way of talent and facilities to work with at Oregon than he's ever had. He needs at least a winning record this year to win my confidence. Double-digits would be nice. It's not like he doesn't have a great QB, a stable of RBs, and a strong receiving corps to build his offense. And Leavitt has been a miracle-worker on Defenses. Even a mediocre defense could put us? in contention for the league title. Watching developments in Eugene with great interest. LIFPO.

Sounds like a molder of men to me.

The DUI thing is a nature of all the bad FREE PUB Oregon has been getting in recent years. Most schools today would have to do it and it comes from the bosses not the coach.

You administration hasn't forgotten the probation even though none of us give a shit.

 

[IPukeOregonGrellow]

The only thing about Taggart that I don't like is getting rid of "Win The Day," it was a good motto and a good tradition for a school that doesn't have much in the way of tradition. He's also not shy about holding people accountable. How many programs would fire newly-hired assistants for a DUI?

Discipline went to hell under Helfrich. It wasn't Sark-at-USC bad, but it was close. So I feel like Taggart is doing a lot of things right and I'm thrilled with the Leavitt and Cristobal hires.

Taggart's teams seem to struggle in their first year, but he's definitely built them up. USF going from 2-10 to 10-2 is a good indicator of that. And he has much more in the way of talent and facilities to work with at Oregon than he's ever had. He needs at least a winning record this year to win my confidence. Double-digits would be nice. It's not like he doesn't have a great QB, a stable of RBs, and a strong receiving corps to build his offense. And Leavitt has been a miracle-worker on Defenses. Even a mediocre defense could put us? in contention for the league title. Watching developments in Eugene with great interest. LIFPO.

I'm LIPO. But there are about a half dozen red flags that scare me, none of which are DUI related.

-That he seems dedicated to running Chip Kelly's no-huddle zone read offense, but doesn't really have the guys who know the Xs and Os behind it.

- That he replaced Coach Rad, who has forgotten more about getting players ready to play at a fast pace than anyone else, with a new guy who seems hell-bent on developing big, dumb muscle, which is the complete opposite of what Chip Kelly wanted.

- That he's just a little bit too naive about how hard it is to flip 5-star West Coast kids away from USC and bring 5-star East Coast kids 2,000 miles away from home.

- That he's setting up excuses for a disappointing season and long rebuild already, when the team with a healthy Freeman and Crosby should be pretty good and could be really good if Jelks and Hollins figure out how to apply consistent pressure on the QB.

- The rumblings that Herbert may be to white of a QB for his taste, even though he's far and away the best QB to step on foot since some Hawaiian guy.

 

[MikeSeaver]

Has @MikeSeaver always struggled this badly or is it one bad posting year out of 15 good ones?

you can almost see the tears in his eyes when he posts

You think coming on here would make someone cry?

It's going to take a lot more than cutting and pasting Race Bannon's greatest hits to do that.

Maybe start by say, winning the Heart of Dallas Bowl again.

What an awful night (day?) that was in the Seaver household.

Pretty much killed Dad.

 

[dnc]

The only thing about Taggart that I don't like is getting rid of "Win The Day," it was a good motto and a good tradition for a school that doesn't have much in the way of tradition. He's also not shy about holding people accountable. How many programs would fire newly-hired assistants for a DUI?

Discipline went to hell under Helfrich. It wasn't Sark-at-USC bad, but it was close. So I feel like Taggart is doing a lot of things right and I'm thrilled with the Leavitt and Cristobal hires.

Taggart's teams seem to struggle in their first year, but he's definitely built them up. USF going from 2-10 to 10-2 is a good indicator of that. And he has much more in the way of talent and facilities to work with at Oregon than he's ever had. He needs at least a winning record this year to win my confidence. Double-digits would be nice. It's not like he doesn't have a great QB, a stable of RBs, and a strong receiving corps to build his offense. And Leavitt has been a miracle-worker on Defenses. Even a mediocre defense could put us? in contention for the league title. Watching developments in Eugene with great interest. LIFPO.

I'm LIPO. But there are about a half dozen red flags that scare me, none of which are DUI related.

-That he seems dedicated to running Chip Kelly's no-huddle zone read offense, but doesn't really have the guys who know the Xs and Os behind it.

- That he replaced Coach Rad, who has forgotten more about getting players ready to play at a fast pace than anyone else, with a new guy who seems hell-bent on developing big, dumb muscle, which is the complete opposite of what Chip Kelly wanted.

- That he's just a little bit too naive about how hard it is to flip 5-star West Coast kids away from USC and bring 5-star East Coast kids 2,000 miles away from home.

- That he's setting up excuses for a disappointing season and long rebuild already, when the team with a healthy Freeman and Crosby should be pretty good and could be really good if Jelks and Hollins figure out how to apply consistent pressure on the QB.

- The rumblings that Herbert may be to white of a QB for his taste, even though he's far and away the best QB to step on foot since some Hawaiian guy.

You guys should have just hired DDY. Swaye could be your strength coach.

 

[IPukeOregonGrellow]

I could see DDY purposefully recruiting Haener to spite us, despite our hard and fast rule of never, ever taking another QB from Jeff Lockie's high school. Pass.