Beating a dead horse

[haie]

Reading the tbs people and many other comments on this site they should have (and easily could have) hired the BC coach. Because he out recruited that school's average by a mile. Young Dan Lanning type that will supply the official recruiting visits with all the hookers and blow needed.

I think he was barely even .500 in the ACC that sucks far worse than the PAC PAC PAC, though

Deserves own thread?

 

[MikeDamone]

No

 

[Tequilla]

Doesn’t matter at minimum until Jen is out

 

[WoolleyDoog]

The NIL situation complicates things to me and clouds how good or not good of recruiters a coach or staff might be. With wide open NIL it seems now more like recruiting is a strip club instead of a bar where whatever you're willing to spend matters way more than game. Meanwhile, UW is at the library talking to no one.

 

[DerekJohnson]

USC Recruiting

UW Recruiting

 

[haie]

Doesn’t matter at minimum until Jen is out

The coach matters. Jenn is the ultimate anchor but Halfley or whoever the fuck, Wilcock, or even Smith would have been a disaster. Same with the XFL coach.

So the boosters approved a developer with a great system and trying to out-scout people. It makes a lot of sense even though yeah, I agree with the HHP guys that the 5 million difference should be spent somewhere useful toward the getting talent.

 

[dannarc]

Meanwhile, UW is at the library talking to no one.

If we are bashing sitting with the nerds at the library, then i am fucking out

 

[haie]

Meanwhile, UW is at the library talking to no one.

If we are bashing sitting alone at the library, then i am fucking out

 

[Tequilla]

Doesn’t matter at minimum until Jen is out

The coach matters. Jenn is the ultimate anchor but Halfley or whoever the fuck, Wilcock, or even Smith would have been a disaster. Same with the XFL coach.

So the boosters approved a developer with a great system and trying to out-scout people. It makes a lot of sense even though yeah, I agree with the HHP guys that the 5 million difference should be spent somewhere useful toward the getting talent.

Everything I’ve heard is that DeBoer was the backup plan to Campbell and Jen couldn’t close Campbell

DeBoer has as many red flags as he has positives

 

[haie]

Doesn’t matter at minimum until Jen is out

The coach matters. Jenn is the ultimate anchor but Halfley or whoever the fuck, Wilcock, or even Smith would have been a disaster. Same with the XFL coach.

So the boosters approved a developer with a great system and trying to out-scout people. It makes a lot of sense even though yeah, I agree with the HHP guys that the 5 million difference should be spent somewhere useful toward the getting talent.

Everything I’ve heard is that DeBoer was the backup plan to Campbell and Jen couldn’t close Campbell

DeBoer has as many red flags as he has positives

Bury Post

 

[EwaDawg]

Doesn’t matter at minimum until Jen is out

The coach matters. Jenn is the ultimate anchor but Halfley or whoever the fuck, Wilcock, or even Smith would have been a disaster. Same with the XFL coach.

So the boosters approved a developer with a great system and trying to out-scout people. It makes a lot of sense even though yeah, I agree with the HHP guys that the 5 million difference should be spent somewhere useful toward the getting talent.

Everything I’ve heard is that DeBoer was the backup plan to Campbell and Jen couldn’t close Campbell

DeBoer has as many red flags as he has positives[/b][/i]

Please itemize his positives and negatives (red flags) without your usual tequillaesque empty verbiage. TYFYS

 

[chuck]

Doesn’t matter at minimum until Jen is out

The coach matters. Jenn is the ultimate anchor but Halfley or whoever the fuck, Wilcock, or even Smith would have been a disaster. Same with the XFL coach.

So the boosters approved a developer with a great system and trying to out-scout people. It makes a lot of sense even though yeah, I agree with the HHP guys that the 5 million difference should be spent somewhere useful toward the getting talent.

Everything I’ve heard is that DeBoer was the backup plan to Campbell and Jen couldn’t close Campbell

DeBoer has as many red flags as he has positives[/b][/i]

Please itemize his positives and negatives (red flags) without your usual tequillaesque empty verbiage. TYFYS

I'm not in the mood for a war of words with Teq or anyone else, but he keeps making thst unsupported statement. DeBoer's "red flag" is that he's a new guy at this level with limited recruiting experience outside of the FSU or Indiana tier. Everything else thst matters...past success, good offenses, teams thst play and hit hard, and teams thst play up to the competition...is a positive.

UW should be able to hire a big time coach from the same lists thst the blue blood programs hire from. I get the disgust. It's all image bullshit though. If Deboer is good, and there are zero signs that he's not, the name recognition nonsense will stop being a factor within a season or two.

 

[haie]

Doesn’t matter at minimum until Jen is out

The coach matters. Jenn is the ultimate anchor but Halfley or whoever the fuck, Wilcock, or even Smith would have been a disaster. Same with the XFL coach.

So the boosters approved a developer with a great system and trying to out-scout people. It makes a lot of sense even though yeah, I agree with the HHP guys that the 5 million difference should be spent somewhere useful toward the getting talent.

Everything I’ve heard is that DeBoer was the backup plan to Campbell and Jen couldn’t close Campbell

DeBoer has as many red flags as he has positives[/b][/i]

Please itemize his positives and negatives (red flags) without your usual tequillaesque empty verbiage. TYFYS

I'm not in the mood for a war of words with Teq or anyone else, but he keeps making thst unsupported statement. DeBoer's "red flag" is that he's a new guy at this level with limited recruiting experience outside of the FSU or Indiana tier. Everything else thst matters...past success, good offenses, teams thst play and hit hard, and teams thst play up to the competition...is a positive.

UW should be able to hire a big time coach from the same lists thst the blue blood programs hire from. I get the disgust. It's all image bullshit though. If Deboer is good, and there are zero signs that he's not, the name recognition nonsense will stop being a factor within a season or two.

Blue bloods hired guys like Sark. Florida's hire looks questionable and he's already talking about not getting into pay for play, etc. Was LSU's hire great? I don't know, Notre Dame already had a ton of advantages.

Only USC made an elite hire, and the guy brought his shit DC with him.

 

[chuck]

Doesn’t matter at minimum until Jen is out

The coach matters. Jenn is the ultimate anchor but Halfley or whoever the fuck, Wilcock, or even Smith would have been a disaster. Same with the XFL coach.

So the boosters approved a developer with a great system and trying to out-scout people. It makes a lot of sense even though yeah, I agree with the HHP guys that the 5 million difference should be spent somewhere useful toward the getting talent.

Everything I’ve heard is that DeBoer was the backup plan to Campbell and Jen couldn’t close Campbell

DeBoer has as many red flags as he has positives[/b][/i]

Please itemize his positives and negatives (red flags) without your usual tequillaesque empty verbiage. TYFYS

I'm not in the mood for a war of words with Teq or anyone else, but he keeps making thst unsupported statement. DeBoer's "red flag" is that he's a new guy at this level with limited recruiting experience outside of the FSU or Indiana tier. Everything else thst matters...past success, good offenses, teams thst play and hit hard, and teams thst play up to the competition...is a positive.

UW should be able to hire a big time coach from the same lists thst the blue blood programs hire from. I get the disgust. It's all image bullshit though. If Deboer is good, and there are zero signs that he's not, the name recognition nonsense will stop being a factor within a season or two.

Blue bloods hired guys like Sark. Florida's hire looks questionable and he's already talking about not getting into pay for play, etc. Was LSU's hire great? I don't know, Notre Dame already had a ton of advantages.

Only USC made an elite hire, and the guy brought his shit DC with him.

Those guys you mention hardly work out at a better rate, if it's better at all, than guys that come from lower tiers, and the cost 2-4 times as much.

And yeah, there are still head scratches like Texas hiring Sark. Jesus. How is a proven, mediocre retread like that even in the conversation?

 

[CFetters_Nacho_Lover]

Doesn’t matter at minimum until Jen is out

The coach matters. Jenn is the ultimate anchor but Halfley or whoever the fuck, Wilcock, or even Smith would have been a disaster. Same with the XFL coach.

So the boosters approved a developer with a great system and trying to out-scout people. It makes a lot of sense even though yeah, I agree with the HHP guys that the 5 million difference should be spent somewhere useful toward the getting talent.

Everything I’ve heard is that DeBoer was the backup plan to Campbell and Jen couldn’t close Campbell

DeBoer has as many red flags as he has positives[/b][/i]

Please itemize his positives and negatives (red flags) without your usual tequillaesque empty verbiage. TYFYS

I'm not in the mood for a war of words with Teq or anyone else, but he keeps making thst unsupported statement. DeBoer's "red flag" is that he's a new guy at this level with limited recruiting experience outside of the FSU or Indiana tier. Everything else thst matters...past success, good offenses, teams thst play and hit hard, and teams thst play up to the competition...is a positive.

UW should be able to hire a big time coach from the same lists thst the blue blood programs hire from. I get the disgust. It's all image bullshit though. If Deboer is good, and there are zero signs that he's not, the name recognition nonsense will stop being a factor within a season or two.

Blue bloods hired guys like Sark. Florida's hire looks questionable and he's already talking about not getting into pay for play, etc. Was LSU's hire great? I don't know, Notre Dame already had a ton of advantages.

Only USC made an elite hire, and the guy brought his shit DC with him.

Those guys you mention hardly work out at a better rate, if it's better at all, than guys that come from lower tiers, and the cost 2-4 times as much.

And yeah, there are still head scratches like Texas hiring Sark. Jesus. How is a proven, mediocre retread like that even in the conversation?[/b]

The Saban rehab clinic

 

[haie]

Doesn’t matter at minimum until Jen is out

The coach matters. Jenn is the ultimate anchor but Halfley or whoever the fuck, Wilcock, or even Smith would have been a disaster. Same with the XFL coach.

So the boosters approved a developer with a great system and trying to out-scout people. It makes a lot of sense even though yeah, I agree with the HHP guys that the 5 million difference should be spent somewhere useful toward the getting talent.

Everything I’ve heard is that DeBoer was the backup plan to Campbell and Jen couldn’t close Campbell

DeBoer has as many red flags as he has positives[/b][/i]

Please itemize his positives and negatives (red flags) without your usual tequillaesque empty verbiage. TYFYS

I'm not in the mood for a war of words with Teq or anyone else, but he keeps making thst unsupported statement. DeBoer's "red flag" is that he's a new guy at this level with limited recruiting experience outside of the FSU or Indiana tier. Everything else thst matters...past success, good offenses, teams thst play and hit hard, and teams thst play up to the competition...is a positive.

UW should be able to hire a big time coach from the same lists thst the blue blood programs hire from. I get the disgust. It's all image bullshit though. If Deboer is good, and there are zero signs that he's not, the name recognition nonsense will stop being a factor within a season or two.

Blue bloods hired guys like Sark. Florida's hire looks questionable and he's already talking about not getting into pay for play, etc. Was LSU's hire great? I don't know, Notre Dame already had a ton of advantages.

Only USC made an elite hire, and the guy brought his shit DC with him.

Those guys you mention hardly work out at a better rate, if it's better at all, than guys that come from lower tiers, and the cost 2-4 times as much.

And yeah, there are still head scratches like Texas hiring Sark. Jesus. How is a proven, mediocre retread like that even in the conversation?

I just think Deboer was a thoughtful/good hire, even if Jenn sucks, even if he wasn't her first choice initially, and even if it doesn't work out. What was a big dick hire? xfl coach? Go poach Mel Tucker?

I think the only really good argument would be that they could have backed up the truck for J Freshwater and told him he can get revenge on the conference that tarmac'd him while boating to work and drinking fancy coffee.

 

[chuck]

Doesn’t matter at minimum until Jen is out

The coach matters. Jenn is the ultimate anchor but Halfley or whoever the fuck, Wilcock, or even Smith would have been a disaster. Same with the XFL coach.

So the boosters approved a developer with a great system and trying to out-scout people. It makes a lot of sense even though yeah, I agree with the HHP guys that the 5 million difference should be spent somewhere useful toward the getting talent.

Everything I’ve heard is that DeBoer was the backup plan to Campbell and Jen couldn’t close Campbell

DeBoer has as many red flags as he has positives[/b][/i]

Please itemize his positives and negatives (red flags) without your usual tequillaesque empty verbiage. TYFYS

I'm not in the mood for a war of words with Teq or anyone else, but he keeps making thst unsupported statement. DeBoer's "red flag" is that he's a new guy at this level with limited recruiting experience outside of the FSU or Indiana tier. Everything else thst matters...past success, good offenses, teams thst play and hit hard, and teams thst play up to the competition...is a positive.

UW should be able to hire a big time coach from the same lists thst the blue blood programs hire from. I get the disgust. It's all image bullshit though. If Deboer is good, and there are zero signs that he's not, the name recognition nonsense will stop being a factor within a season or two.

Blue bloods hired guys like Sark. Florida's hire looks questionable and he's already talking about not getting into pay for play, etc. Was LSU's hire great? I don't know, Notre Dame already had a ton of advantages.

Only USC made an elite hire, and the guy brought his shit DC with him.

Those guys you mention hardly work out at a better rate, if it's better at all, than guys that come from lower tiers, and the cost 2-4 times as much.

And yeah, there are still head scratches like Texas hiring Sark. Jesus. How is a proven, mediocre retread like that even in the conversation?

I just think Deboer was a thoughtful/good hire, even if Jenn sucks, even if he wasn't her first choice initially, and even if it doesn't work out. What was a big dick hire? xfl coach? Go poach Mel Tucker?

I think the only really good argument would be that they could have backed up the truck for J Freshwater and told him he can get revenge on the conference that tarmac'd him while boating to work and drinking fancy coffee.

Agreed.

 

[doogville]

I’m in LIPO mode, but the fact that DeBoer wasn’t linked to any other job openings of note is a concern. Based on what is out there. he was basically begging for the UW job (and took it at a salary below market comps).

So, yea. Cohen was looking for a bargain & a coach who wouldn’t rock the boat/scandal free. DeBoer fits that mold. And we did not have to lure him away from other suitors. We offered, he accepted.

We’ll see if he can get it done at the highest level. Track record seems promising, but he has not been coaching in the big leagues for that long.

 

[YellowSnow]

Doesn’t matter at minimum until Jen is out

The coach matters. Jenn is the ultimate anchor but Halfley or whoever the fuck, Wilcock, or even Smith would have been a disaster. Same with the XFL coach.

So the boosters approved a developer with a great system and trying to out-scout people. It makes a lot of sense even though yeah, I agree with the HHP guys that the 5 million difference should be spent somewhere useful toward the getting talent.

Everything I’ve heard is that DeBoer was the backup plan to Campbell and Jen couldn’t close Campbell

DeBoer has as many red flags as he has positives

There's not ton of evidence to suggest though that Campbell is more likely to win at UW than DeBoner.

 

[haie]

I’m in LIPO mode, but the fact that DeBoer wasn’t linked to any other job openings of note is a concern. Based on what is out there. he was basically begging for the UW job (and took it at a salary below market comps).

So, yea. Cohen was looking for a bargain & a coach who wouldn’t rock the boat/scandal free. DeBoer fits that mold. And we did not have to lure him away from other suitors. We offered, he accepted.

We’ll see if he can get it done at the highest level. Track record seems promising, but he has not been coaching in the big leagues for that long.

He didn't have much time at Fresno so I can understand if he didn't have a lot of schools interested yet.

Why wouldn't he be really into the UW job? Amazing university, tons of money, talent on the roster that just wasn't utilized, state has plenty of talent. Can sell assistants on living in a great location.

Easy as fuck conference, rival just hired some fucktard named Dillingham, other "rival" hired a coach because he won one game against a shit staff.