ASU QB Taylor Kelly out Sept. 25 vs. UCLA

This blows, because asu with taylor kelly is by far the best team in the south.
 
This blows, because asuUCLA with taylor kelly Brett Hundley is by far the best team in the south.
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I still like my Neuheisels in the battle of the backups
 
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This blows, because asu with taylor kelly is by far the best team in the south.
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I don't know about by far because they are a flawed team, but I agree. Best QB in the South, and the best coach. If their young defense improves as the season moves along, they are the best team in the South. UCLA is not very good, and USC is coached by Sark.
 
This blows, because asu with taylor kelly is by far the best team in the south.
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I don't know about by far because they are a flawed team, but I agree. Best QB in the South, and the best coach. If their young defense improves as the season moves along, they are the best team in the South. UCLA is not very good, and USC is coached by Sark.
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Jim Mora Jr would like to have a talk with you over a nice slice of cake pie.
 
This blows, because asu with taylor kelly is by far the best team in the south.
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I don't know about by far because they are a flawed team, but I agree. Best QB in the South, and the best coach. If their young defense improves as the season moves along, they are the best team in the South. UCLA is not very good, and USC is coached by Sark.
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Jim Mora Jr would like to have a talk with you over a nice slice of cake pie.
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Jim Mora has never proven to be anything better than an above average to good college coach. He also has some Sark in him when praising his players and fielding disciplined teams. On Hundley, "I can tell you unequivocally he's a first-round pick. He will be a star in the NFL." If he's going to be a star in the NFL, why does he play badly so often? I've tried to convince myself that I'm missing something because so many here are huge Mora supporters, but I haven't seen anything that leads me to believe a dynasty is underway at UCLA. Mora and UCLA are incredibly lucky that Pat Haden is USC's AD.

A lot has changed since 2007. I would have been happy with Mora replacing Sark (obviously), but I believe Petersen was a better hire. Mora would have had some good teams at UW, but I think Petersen has a higher ceiling at UW.
 
I actually agree on Petermen but Petermen has a larger body of work. This is in fact, only the start of Mora's third season as a college head coach. So far he hasn't done anything but build that program up. I know a lot of folks think UCLA will disappear this year, but we need to let it play out
 
This blows, because asu with taylor kelly is by far the best team in the south.
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I don't know about by far because they are a flawed team, but I agree. Best QB in the South, and the best coach. If their young defense improves as the season moves along, they are the best team in the South. UCLA is not very good, and USC is coached by Sark.
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Jim Mora Jr would like to have a talk with you over a nice slice of cake pie.
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Jim Mora has never proven to be anything better than an above average to good college coach. He also has some Sark in him when praising his players and fielding disciplined teams. On Hundley, "I can tell you unequivocally he's a first-round pick. He will be a star in the NFL." If he's going to be a star in the NFL, why does he play badly so often? I've tried to convince myself that I'm missing something because so many here are huge Mora supporters, but I haven't seen anything that leads me to believe a dynasty is underway at UCLA. Mora and UCLA are incredibly lucky that Pat Haden is USC's AD.

A lot has changed since 2007. I would have been happy with Mora replacing Sark (obviously), but I believe Petersen was a better hire. Mora would have had some good teams at UW, but I think Petersen has a higher ceiling at UW.
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LIPO but I would have to agree. I wouldn't be shocked if they went on a run this year and only had a couple of losses though and finished in the top 5-10 in the country.

A trend with his UCLA teams so far have been that they have a lot of talent on defense but are slightly above average at best on that side of the ball.

Also on offense they are all about the short passing game and don't run the ball that great when they hand it to the tailback.

that said the program has improved. THis is year 3 with a good enough roster to win the conference. LIPO
 
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This blows, because asu with taylor kelly is by far the best team in the south.
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I don't know about by far because they are a flawed team, but I agree. Best QB in the South, and the best coach. If their young defense improves as the season moves along, they are the best team in the South. UCLA is not very good, and USC is coached by Sark.
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ASU's defense is terrible and unlikely to get much better. They gave up 300 yards to a low level D2 team at home. Just gave up 550 to Colorado. Their offense is the 2nd best in the league but their defense is in the bottom third.

The South will probably come down to the USC-UCLA game. Both teams could be 5-3 or UCLA 6-2 and USC 5-3 with a chance to steal it.
 
This blows, because asu with taylor kelly is by far the best team in the south.
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I don't know about by far because they are a flawed team, but I agree. Best QB in the South, and the best coach. If their young defense improves as the season moves along, they are the best team in the South. UCLA is not very good, and USC is coached by Sark.
Click to expand...

Jim Mora Jr would like to have a talk with you over a nice slice of cake pie.
Click to expand...

Jim Mora has never proven to be anything better than an above average to good college coach. He also has some Sark in him when praising his players and fielding disciplined teams. On Hundley, "I can tell you unequivocally he's a first-round pick. He will be a star in the NFL." If he's going to be a star in the NFL, why does he play badly so often? I've tried to convince myself that I'm missing something because so many here are huge Mora supporters, but I haven't seen anything that leads me to believe a dynasty is underway at UCLA. Mora and UCLA are incredibly lucky that Pat Haden is USC's AD.

A lot has changed since 2007. I would have been happy with Mora replacing Sark (obviously), but I believe Petersen was a better hire. Mora would have had some good teams at UW, but I think Petersen has a higher ceiling at UW.
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What does any of that have to do with Mora vs the other Pac-12 South coaches???
 
This blows, because asu with taylor kelly is by far the best team in the south.
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I don't know about by far because they are a flawed team, but I agree. Best QB in the South, and the best coach. If their young defense improves as the season moves along, they are the best team in the South. UCLA is not very good, and USC is coached by Sark.
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ASU's defense is terrible and unlikely to get much better. They gave up 300 yards to a low level D2 team at home. Just gave up 550 to Colorado. Their offense is the 2nd best in the league but their defense is in the bottom third.

The South will probably come down to the USC-UCLA game. Both teams could be 5-3 or UCLA 6-2 and USC 5-3 with a chance to steal it.
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Why won't they get better on defense? Not saying they will be that good, but they have a lot of young guys starting and those guys sometimes get better. Graham is a good coach with a defensive background. They were up 31-0 at halftime against Weber State. It's probably safe to say most those yards came against ASU's twos and threes in the second half. 550 to Colorado is bad, but it was an easy win on the road.

The South doesn't have a real strong team, but ASU has the potential to go 6-3 in Pac 12 play. From what I've seen, UCLA and USC aren't better teams, and if they are, the margin is slim. The next four games are huge for ASU, and Kelly being out and probably hobbled when he returns isn't good for their chances. UCLA, @USC, Stanford, @UW. If they win two of four, they could win the South. If Kelly was playing, I'd pick ASU to plunger UCLA in Tempe. Now, it's probably a toss up.
 
This blows, because asu with taylor kelly is by far the best team in the south.
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I don't know about by far because they are a flawed team, but I agree. Best QB in the South, and the best coach. If their young defense improves as the season moves along, they are the best team in the South. UCLA is not very good, and USC is coached by Sark.
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ASU's defense is terrible and unlikely to get much better. They gave up 300 yards to a low level D2 team at home. Just gave up 550 to Colorado. Their offense is the 2nd best in the league but their defense is in the bottom third.

The South will probably come down to the USC-UCLA game. Both teams could be 5-3 or UCLA 6-2 and USC 5-3 with a chance to steal it.
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Why won't they get better on defense? Not saying they will be that good, but they have a lot of young guys starting and those guys sometimes get better. Graham is a good coach with a defensive background. They were up 31-0 at halftime against Weber State. It's probably safe to say most those yards came against ASU's twos and threes in the second half. 550 to Colorado is bad, but it was an easy win on the road.

The South doesn't have a real strong team, but ASU has the potential to go 6-3 in Pac 12 play. From what I've seen, UCLA and USC aren't better teams, and if they are, the margin is slim. The next four games are huge for ASU, and Kelly being out and probably hobbled when he returns isn't good for their chances. UCLA, @USC, Stanford, @UW. If they win two of four, they could win the South. If Kelly was playing, I'd pick ASU to plunger UCLA in Tempe. Now, it's probably a toss up.
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Because Chest has an agenda against ASU. Not sure why, but it is great for podcast rants. ASU looks like the best team to me thus far in the south but nobody is running away with it. LIPO.
 
We've all preached how it comes down to coaching, Graham is the best coach in that division. Mora appears to be a good, but not great. Roaddawg nailed it, there is some Sark in him.

Last year's game in Pasadena was like watching Sark play a better defensive version of Sark. A good coach on our sideline wins that game, because Mora has a penchant for leaving the window open when he shouldn't.
 
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