Are we Recruiting again? Fischer of Men Recruiting Thread - (Thread links)

[Tequilla]

I'm always skeptical of the evaluation metrics thing. It usually seems to be a cop out for simply not being able to win recruiting battles.

I don't see a situation where recruits don't see themselves playing over the guys who got rag dolled in a shit Pac-12 last year, especially with a completely new staff coming in.

My one sliver optimism is I'm very curious to see how the NIL plays out. Will there be an advantage to teams/programs that are more building culture and team with players that actually want to be there opposed to players who just are there because of the money. Unless you're the same Top 5-6 programs that can stack five stars on five stars AND have good coaching, I wouldn't be surprised if the next best teams every year are more teams that want it more instead of the A&Ms and Oregons where guys are going simply for money and weird clout.

Even if you hit on under the radar guys, if you aren’t paying market competitive NIL rates then those players are going to leave you anyway

Bottom line until there’s more clarity around NIL limits then it really comes down to how much are you willing to pay

 

[haie]

I'm always skeptical of the evaluation metrics thing. It usually seems to be a cop out for simply not being able to win recruiting battles.

I don't see a situation where recruits don't see themselves playing over the guys who got rag dolled in a shit Pac-12 last year, especially with a completely new staff coming in.

My one sliver optimism is I'm very curious to see how the NIL plays out. Will there be an advantage to teams/programs that are more building culture and team with players that actually want to be there opposed to players who just are there because of the money. Unless you're the same Top 5-6 programs that can stack five stars on five stars AND have good coaching, I wouldn't be surprised if the next best teams every year are more teams that want it more instead of the A&Ms and Oregons where guys are going simply for money and weird clout.

It's a cop out for some staffs, like Colorado. For Petersen's staff it was not. For Leech's staff it was not. For this staff, who finished 2nd/3rd in the MW but had bottom half recruits on paper in that league, it was not.

If there's an established starter on a bad team, I don't think recruits think they are just going to supplant them. Some lt recruit isn't going to think, "Yeah I should be able to come to Washington and take Kirkland's spot because his OL was shit last year."

It's definitely situational, and this roster is pretty backed up. 2021 and 2022 were supposed to be the years we would have a lot of success because of numbers.

A lot of programs have already shown that you need a roster that gives a shit, and that will overcome a roster full of mercs that don't care about what school they are at.

Things delusional people say.

We'll see how bitch boy does this season when his GameDay tasks become more than getting the post game kegs for the staff.

MWC tuff.

You've never beaten Boise State yet you say shit like this.

Quook!

 

[46XiJCAB]

I'm always skeptical of the evaluation metrics thing. It usually seems to be a cop out for simply not being able to win recruiting battles.

I don't see a situation where recruits don't see themselves playing over the guys who got rag dolled in a shit Pac-12 last year, especially with a completely new staff coming in.

My one sliver optimism is I'm very curious to see how the NIL plays out. Will there be an advantage to teams/programs that are more building culture and team with players that actually want to be there opposed to players who just are there because of the money. Unless you're the same Top 5-6 programs that can stack five stars on five stars AND have good coaching, I wouldn't be surprised if the next best teams every year are more teams that want it more instead of the A&Ms and Oregons where guys are going simply for money and weird clout.

It's a cop out for some staffs, like Colorado. For Petersen's staff it was not. For Leech's staff it was not. For this staff, who finished 2nd/3rd in the MW but had bottom half recruits on paper in that league, it was not.

If there's an established starter on a bad team, I don't think recruits think they are just going to supplant them. Some lt recruit isn't going to think, "Yeah I should be able to come to Washington and take Kirkland's spot because his OL was shit last year."

It's definitely situational, and this roster is pretty backed up. 2021 and 2022 were supposed to be the years we would have a lot of success because of numbers.

A lot of programs have already shown that you need a roster that gives a shit, and that will overcome a roster full of mercs that don't care about what school they are at.

Things delusional people say.

We'll see how bitch boy does this season when his GameDay tasks become more than getting the post game kegs for the staff.

MWC tuff.

You've never beaten Boise State yet you say shit like this.

Quook!

You lost to MT, STFU idiot.

 

[haie]

I'm always skeptical of the evaluation metrics thing. It usually seems to be a cop out for simply not being able to win recruiting battles.

I don't see a situation where recruits don't see themselves playing over the guys who got rag dolled in a shit Pac-12 last year, especially with a completely new staff coming in.

My one sliver optimism is I'm very curious to see how the NIL plays out. Will there be an advantage to teams/programs that are more building culture and team with players that actually want to be there opposed to players who just are there because of the money. Unless you're the same Top 5-6 programs that can stack five stars on five stars AND have good coaching, I wouldn't be surprised if the next best teams every year are more teams that want it more instead of the A&Ms and Oregons where guys are going simply for money and weird clout.

It's a cop out for some staffs, like Colorado. For Petersen's staff it was not. For Leech's staff it was not. For this staff, who finished 2nd/3rd in the MW but had bottom half recruits on paper in that league, it was not.

If there's an established starter on a bad team, I don't think recruits think they are just going to supplant them. Some lt recruit isn't going to think, "Yeah I should be able to come to Washington and take Kirkland's spot because his OL was shit last year."

It's definitely situational, and this roster is pretty backed up. 2021 and 2022 were supposed to be the years we would have a lot of success because of numbers.

A lot of programs have already shown that you need a roster that gives a shit, and that will overcome a roster full of mercs that don't care about what school they are at.

Things delusional people say.

We'll see how bitch boy does this season when his GameDay tasks become more than getting the post game kegs for the staff.

MWC tuff.

You've never beaten Boise State yet you say shit like this.

Quook!

You lost to MT, STFU idiot.

We have beaten Montana by 40+ in the last 5 years.

You have never, ever beaten Boise State.

Unsurprising you can't process anything anyone says here.

 

[46XiJCAB]

I'm always skeptical of the evaluation metrics thing. It usually seems to be a cop out for simply not being able to win recruiting battles.

I don't see a situation where recruits don't see themselves playing over the guys who got rag dolled in a shit Pac-12 last year, especially with a completely new staff coming in.

My one sliver optimism is I'm very curious to see how the NIL plays out. Will there be an advantage to teams/programs that are more building culture and team with players that actually want to be there opposed to players who just are there because of the money. Unless you're the same Top 5-6 programs that can stack five stars on five stars AND have good coaching, I wouldn't be surprised if the next best teams every year are more teams that want it more instead of the A&Ms and Oregons where guys are going simply for money and weird clout.

It's a cop out for some staffs, like Colorado. For Petersen's staff it was not. For Leech's staff it was not. For this staff, who finished 2nd/3rd in the MW but had bottom half recruits on paper in that league, it was not.

If there's an established starter on a bad team, I don't think recruits think they are just going to supplant them. Some lt recruit isn't going to think, "Yeah I should be able to come to Washington and take Kirkland's spot because his OL was shit last year."

It's definitely situational, and this roster is pretty backed up. 2021 and 2022 were supposed to be the years we would have a lot of success because of numbers.

A lot of programs have already shown that you need a roster that gives a shit, and that will overcome a roster full of mercs that don't care about what school they are at.

Things delusional people say.

We'll see how bitch boy does this season when his GameDay tasks become more than getting the post game kegs for the staff.

MWC tuff.

You've never beaten Boise State yet you say shit like this.

Quook!

You lost to MT, STFU idiot.

We have beaten Montana by 40+ in the last 5 years.

You have never, ever beaten Boise State.

Unsurprising you can't process anything anyone says here.

BSU plays big boy football. You lost to JV league team. Process that! Lol.

 

[RoadDawg55]

I'm always skeptical of the evaluation metrics thing. It usually seems to be a cop out for simply not being able to win recruiting battles.

I don't see a situation where recruits don't see themselves playing over the guys who got rag dolled in a shit Pac-12 last year, especially with a completely new staff coming in.

My one sliver optimism is I'm very curious to see how the NIL plays out. Will there be an advantage to teams/programs that are more building culture and team with players that actually want to be there opposed to players who just are there because of the money. Unless you're the same Top 5-6 programs that can stack five stars on five stars AND have good coaching, I wouldn't be surprised if the next best teams every year are more teams that want it more instead of the A&Ms and Oregons where guys are going simply for money and weird clout.

It's a cop out for some staffs, like Colorado. For Petersen's staff it was not. For Leech's staff it was not. For this staff, who finished 2nd/3rd in the MW but had bottom half recruits on paper in that league, it was not.

If there's an established starter on a bad team, I don't think recruits think they are just going to supplant them. Some lt recruit isn't going to think, "Yeah I should be able to come to Washington and take Kirkland's spot because his OL was shit last year."

It's definitely situational, and this roster is pretty backed up. 2021 and 2022 were supposed to be the years we would have a lot of success because of numbers.

A lot of programs have already shown that you need a roster that gives a shit, and that will overcome a roster full of mercs that don't care about what school they are at.

Things delusional people say.

We'll see how bitch boy does this season when his GameDay tasks become more than getting the post game kegs for the staff.

MWC tuff.

You've never beaten Boise State yet you say shit like this.

Quook!

You lost to MT, STFU idiot.

We have beaten Montana by 40+ in the last 5 years.

You have never, ever beaten Boise State.

Unsurprising you can't process anything anyone says here.

BSU plays big boy football. You lost to JV league team. Process that! Lol.

Even Sark plundered Boise State. The Montana loss is a stain but life wouldn’t be better if we squeaked that one out. Jimmy would have still been the same shitty coach.

 

[haie]

I'm always skeptical of the evaluation metrics thing. It usually seems to be a cop out for simply not being able to win recruiting battles.

I don't see a situation where recruits don't see themselves playing over the guys who got rag dolled in a shit Pac-12 last year, especially with a completely new staff coming in.

My one sliver optimism is I'm very curious to see how the NIL plays out. Will there be an advantage to teams/programs that are more building culture and team with players that actually want to be there opposed to players who just are there because of the money. Unless you're the same Top 5-6 programs that can stack five stars on five stars AND have good coaching, I wouldn't be surprised if the next best teams every year are more teams that want it more instead of the A&Ms and Oregons where guys are going simply for money and weird clout.

It's a cop out for some staffs, like Colorado. For Petersen's staff it was not. For Leech's staff it was not. For this staff, who finished 2nd/3rd in the MW but had bottom half recruits on paper in that league, it was not.

If there's an established starter on a bad team, I don't think recruits think they are just going to supplant them. Some lt recruit isn't going to think, "Yeah I should be able to come to Washington and take Kirkland's spot because his OL was shit last year."

It's definitely situational, and this roster is pretty backed up. 2021 and 2022 were supposed to be the years we would have a lot of success because of numbers.

A lot of programs have already shown that you need a roster that gives a shit, and that will overcome a roster full of mercs that don't care about what school they are at.

Things delusional people say.

We'll see how bitch boy does this season when his GameDay tasks become more than getting the post game kegs for the staff.

MWC tuff.

You've never beaten Boise State yet you say shit like this.

Quook!

You lost to MT, STFU idiot.

We have beaten Montana by 40+ in the last 5 years.

You have never, ever beaten Boise State.

Unsurprising you can't process anything anyone says here.

BSU plays big boy football. You lost to JV league team. Process that! Lol.

That's you're fucking reasoning?

LOLOLOLOLOL

Yeah, big boy football. Jesus

 

[haie]

I'm always skeptical of the evaluation metrics thing. It usually seems to be a cop out for simply not being able to win recruiting battles.

I don't see a situation where recruits don't see themselves playing over the guys who got rag dolled in a shit Pac-12 last year, especially with a completely new staff coming in.

My one sliver optimism is I'm very curious to see how the NIL plays out. Will there be an advantage to teams/programs that are more building culture and team with players that actually want to be there opposed to players who just are there because of the money. Unless you're the same Top 5-6 programs that can stack five stars on five stars AND have good coaching, I wouldn't be surprised if the next best teams every year are more teams that want it more instead of the A&Ms and Oregons where guys are going simply for money and weird clout.

It's a cop out for some staffs, like Colorado. For Petersen's staff it was not. For Leech's staff it was not. For this staff, who finished 2nd/3rd in the MW but had bottom half recruits on paper in that league, it was not.

If there's an established starter on a bad team, I don't think recruits think they are just going to supplant them. Some lt recruit isn't going to think, "Yeah I should be able to come to Washington and take Kirkland's spot because his OL was shit last year."

It's definitely situational, and this roster is pretty backed up. 2021 and 2022 were supposed to be the years we would have a lot of success because of numbers.

A lot of programs have already shown that you need a roster that gives a shit, and that will overcome a roster full of mercs that don't care about what school they are at.

Things delusional people say.

We'll see how bitch boy does this season when his GameDay tasks become more than getting the post game kegs for the staff.

MWC tuff.

You've never beaten Boise State yet you say shit like this.

Quook!

You lost to MT, STFU idiot.

We have beaten Montana by 40+ in the last 5 years.

You have never, ever beaten Boise State.

Unsurprising you can't process anything anyone says here.

BSU plays big boy football. You lost to JV league team. Process that! Lol.

Even Sark plundered Boise State. The Montana loss is a stain but life wouldn’t be better if we squeaked that one out. Jimmy would have still been the same shitty coach.

He has no comeback because he knows it's embarrassing. Oregon may not ever schedule Boise again.

 

[thechatch]

@haie i really feel like you should come down for a game at Autzen. If you can make the drive to Aurora, we’ll fly you down and let you sit up in the box with us, and you can tell everyone there all about how inferior they are while you drink vodka sodes on us. We usually have a couple customers in tow, so you’ll need to try and hold it mostly together. After all, they buy a lot of vacuum cleaners from us.

xoxo

 

[46XiJCAB]

@haie i really feel like you should come down for a game at Autzen. If you can make the drive to Aurora, we’ll fly you down and let you sit up in the box with us, and you can tell everyone there all about how inferior they are while you drink vodka sodes on us. We usually have a couple customers in tow, so you’ll need to try and hold it mostly together. After all, they buy a lot of vacuum cleaners from us.

xoxo

Can he bring his UW diploma?

 

[haie]

@haie i really feel like you should come down for a game at Autzen. If you can make the drive to Aurora, we’ll fly you down and let you sit up in the box with us, and you can tell everyone there all about how inferior they are while you drink vodka sodes on us. We usually have a couple customers in tow, so you’ll need to try and hold it mostly together. After all, they buy a lot of vacuum cleaners from us.

xoxo

Imagine getting to this point. "the box" of that tiny little stadium. lol, must be impressive to your vacuum distributors.

I'd do a rafting trip down the McKenzie river with you guys but that's about it.

 

[haie]

@haie i really feel like you should come down for a game at Autzen. If you can make the drive to Aurora, we’ll fly you down and let you sit up in the box with us, and you can tell everyone there all about how inferior they are while you drink vodka sodes on us. We usually have a couple customers in tow, so you’ll need to try and hold it mostly together. After all, they buy a lot of vacuum cleaners from us.

xoxo

Can he bring his UW diploma?

Sure, if you bring your Lane diploma.

 

[46XiJCAB]

I'm always skeptical of the evaluation metrics thing. It usually seems to be a cop out for simply not being able to win recruiting battles.

I don't see a situation where recruits don't see themselves playing over the guys who got rag dolled in a shit Pac-12 last year, especially with a completely new staff coming in.

My one sliver optimism is I'm very curious to see how the NIL plays out. Will there be an advantage to teams/programs that are more building culture and team with players that actually want to be there opposed to players who just are there because of the money. Unless you're the same Top 5-6 programs that can stack five stars on five stars AND have good coaching, I wouldn't be surprised if the next best teams every year are more teams that want it more instead of the A&Ms and Oregons where guys are going simply for money and weird clout.

It's a cop out for some staffs, like Colorado. For Petersen's staff it was not. For Leech's staff it was not. For this staff, who finished 2nd/3rd in the MW but had bottom half recruits on paper in that league, it was not.

If there's an established starter on a bad team, I don't think recruits think they are just going to supplant them. Some lt recruit isn't going to think, "Yeah I should be able to come to Washington and take Kirkland's spot because his OL was shit last year."

It's definitely situational, and this roster is pretty backed up. 2021 and 2022 were supposed to be the years we would have a lot of success because of numbers.

A lot of programs have already shown that you need a roster that gives a shit, and that will overcome a roster full of mercs that don't care about what school they are at.

Things delusional people say.

We'll see how bitch boy does this season when his GameDay tasks become more than getting the post game kegs for the staff.

MWC tuff.

You've never beaten Boise State yet you say shit like this.

Quook!

You lost to MT, STFU idiot.

We have beaten Montana by 40+ in the last 5 years.

You have never, ever beaten Boise State.

Unsurprising you can't process anything anyone says here.

BSU plays big boy football. You lost to JV league team. Process that! Lol.

Even Sark plundered Boise State. The Montana loss is a stain but life wouldn’t be better if we squeaked that one out. Jimmy would have still been the same shitty coach.

If Peterson were half as smart as he's given credit for he would have taken his foot off the gas to keep Sling Blade around, much like Kelly did with Sark each year. I'll always thank him for not doing the smart thing.

 

[HFNY]

I'm always skeptical of the evaluation metrics thing. It usually seems to be a cop out for simply not being able to win recruiting battles.

I don't see a situation where recruits don't see themselves playing over the guys who got rag dolled in a shit Pac-12 last year, especially with a completely new staff coming in.

My one sliver optimism is I'm very curious to see how the NIL plays out. Will there be an advantage to teams/programs that are more building culture and team with players that actually want to be there opposed to players who just are there because of the money. Unless you're the same Top 5-6 programs that can stack five stars on five stars AND have good coaching, I wouldn't be surprised if the next best teams every year are more teams that want it more instead of the A&Ms and Oregons where guys are going simply for money and weird clout.

It's a cop out for some staffs, like Colorado. For Petersen's staff it was not. For Leech's staff it was not. For this staff, who finished 2nd/3rd in the MW but had bottom half recruits on paper in that league, it was not.

If there's an established starter on a bad team, I don't think recruits think they are just going to supplant them. Some lt recruit isn't going to think, "Yeah I should be able to come to Washington and take Kirkland's spot because his OL was shit last year."

It's definitely situational, and this roster is pretty backed up. 2021 and 2022 were supposed to be the years we would have a lot of success because of numbers.

A lot of programs have already shown that you need a roster that gives a shit, and that will overcome a roster full of mercs that don't care about what school they are at.

Things delusional people say.

We'll see how bitch boy does this season when his GameDay tasks become more than getting the post game kegs for the staff.

MWC tuff.

You've never beaten Boise State yet you say shit like this.

Quook!

You lost to MT, STFU idiot.

We have beaten Montana by 40+ in the last 5 years.

You have never, ever beaten Boise State.

Unsurprising you can't process anything anyone says here.

BSU plays big boy football. You lost to JV league team. Process that! Lol.

Even Sark plundered Boise State. The Montana loss is a stain but life wouldn’t be better if we squeaked that one out. Jimmy would have still been the same shitty coach.

If Peterson were half as smart as he's given credit for he would have taken his foot off the gas to keep Sling Blade around, much like Kelly did with Sark each year. I'll always thank him for not doing the smart thing.

If I recall correctly, CP didn't keep his foot on the gas as much as Oregon rolled over. Would it have made as much of a difference anyway if UW had scored 60 or 63 points instead of 70?

But back UW Football, besides our Lord and Savior Pat Haden, maybe we(?) I formally propose adding Bobby Hauck to the pantheon of greatness for kicking off (or at least accelerating) the beginning of the end for Lake.

 

[sonics1993]

Some pretty pathetic recruiting going on for Washington right now. They have absolutely no buzz in Socal and are barely in contention for any four-star recruits. Oh, and the effect people thought Courtney Morgan would have was utterly over-hyped. He's made minimal impact besides getting us some courtesy visits from a few recruits.

 

[insinceredawg]

Some pretty pathetic recruiting going on for Washington right now. They have absolutely no buzz in Socal and are barely in contention for any four-star recruits. Oh, and the effect people thought Courtney Morgan would have was utterly over-hyped. He's made minimal impact besides getting us some courtesy visits from a few recruits.

Is it primarily because of NIL or do the coaches suck at recruiting?

 

[bluechipuwrecruits]

Great, that is all that we can expect going forward.

 

[RaceBannon]

Fresneck

 

[bananasnblondes]

Some pretty pathetic recruiting going on for Washington right now. They have absolutely no buzz in Socal and are barely in contention for any four-star recruits. Oh, and the effect people thought Courtney Morgan would have was utterly over-hyped. He's made minimal impact besides getting us some courtesy visits from a few recruits.

I saw we just offered an unrated QB from South Dakota. Over on dawgman they are celebrating this as proof that our coaches are leaving no stone unturned in finding the best players

 

[sonics1993]

Some pretty pathetic recruiting going on for Washington right now. They have absolutely no buzz in Socal and are barely in contention for any four-star recruits. Oh, and the effect people thought Courtney Morgan would have was utterly over-hyped. He's made minimal impact besides getting us some courtesy visits from a few recruits.

Is it primarily because of NIL or do the coaches suck at recruiting?

Part of it is NIL but a big part is they just don't have the coaches who can recruit.