Are we Recruiting again? Fischer of Men Recruiting Thread - (Thread links)

[bananasnblondes]

https://twitter.com/CalebPresley5/status/1541859382039744512

Alabama: "Last year when I camped there, I saw the potential in being a part of a culture and factory that produces NFL draft picks and I feel like nothing can stop me from reaching that goal."

Michigan State: "Michigan State was a no-brainer for me. They have been one way in their relationship with me, being constantly relevant in trying to bring top talent like myself in Coach Tuck’s (Mel Tucker) program."

Oregon: "The Ducks made an immediate impact the first time I went to Eugene. I got in the loop with some of the players early as I continued to build my relationship with coach (Dan) Lanning."

Texas A&M: "Coach (T.J.) Rushing is one enthusiastic individual when it comes to playing ball. He doesn’t waste time in his DB room he likes to get to the point."

UCLA: "I got the most genuine vibe from the coaches, especially coach (Brian) Norwood. Being that we’re both Filipino, we already had something in common."

Washington: "They have been key on building the Jordan class and they want all in state talent to stay home. Coach (Kalen) DeBoer and coach Juice (Brown) made my family feel so special when they were wearing purple ribbons to honor my mom and that’s a gesture I won’t ever forget."[/b]

Interesting

 

[insinceredawg]

Don't get your hopes up. He's all Duck.

Wagoner's top 4 drops in about 45 minutes. 81% chance we don't make the cut so it's a double whiff on the in state blue chip corners.

 

[insinceredawg]

#LoyaltotheSoilhttps://twitter.com/JasiahWagoner/status/1541904306323853312

 

[whatshouldicareabout]

Guess the only instate kids we're getting are Hatchett and Lane.

 

[Tequilla]

The in-state stuff at this point is borderline laughable

 

[insinceredawg]

The in-state stuff at this point is borderline laughable

The doog narrative on DM and Discord are it's Jimmy's fault for poisoning the relationships with the local schools and 7v7 programs. That could be partially true but I don't think KDB should be blameless in this shit show. They had a chance to go suck off Tracy and Reggie before Lanning arrived in Eugene but instead they were throwing out hail mary offers to kids all over the country. I refuse to believe that if they had gotten all in on the local recruits that we'd be seeing this type of exodus. This is 3 years in a row where UW completely misses on the top in state talent.

 

[bananasnblondes]

The in-state stuff at this point is borderline laughable

The narrative on DM and Discord are it's Jimmy's fault for poisoning the relationships with the local schools and 7v7 programs. That could be partially true but I don't think KDB should be blameless in this shit show. They had a chance to go suck off Tracy and Reggie before Lanning arrived in Eugene but instead they were throwing out hail mary offers to kids all over the country. I refuse to believe that if they had gotten all in on the local recruits that we'd be seeing this type of exodus. This is 3 years in a row where UW completely misses on the top in state talent.

Agree. How difficult is it to go meet with the guy for an afternoon or invite him in after getting hired. Yes, the guy is shady as fuck but the top recruits in the area do go through him so swallow your fucking pride for a day instead of doing irreparable damage to your in-state recruiting

 

[AtomicDawg]

The in-state stuff at this point is borderline laughable

The narrative on DM and Discord are it's Jimmy's fault for poisoning the relationships with the local schools and 7v7 programs. That could be partially true but I don't think KDB should be blameless in this shit show. They had a chance to go suck off Tracy and Reggie before Lanning arrived in Eugene but instead they were throwing out hail mary offers to kids all over the country. I refuse to believe that if they had gotten all in on the local recruits that we'd be seeing this type of exodus. This is 3 years in a row where UW completely misses on the top in state talent.

Agree. How difficult is it to go meet with the guy for an afternoon or invite him in after getting hired. Yes, the guy is shady as fuck but the top recruits in the area do go through him so swallow your fucking pride for a day instead of doing irreparable damage to your in-state recruiting

Yeah they should have hired his brother or something to land these guys because that worked out so well.

I can’t wait to boo the kids.

 

[whatshouldicareabout]

The in-state stuff at this point is borderline laughable

The narrative on DM and Discord are it's Jimmy's fault for poisoning the relationships with the local schools and 7v7 programs. That could be partially true but I don't think KDB should be blameless in this shit show. They had a chance to go suck off Tracy and Reggie before Lanning arrived in Eugene but instead they were throwing out hail mary offers to kids all over the country. I refuse to believe that if they had gotten all in on the local recruits that we'd be seeing this type of exodus. This is 3 years in a row where UW completely misses on the top in state talent.

Agree. How difficult is it to go meet with the guy for an afternoon or invite him in after getting hired. Yes, the guy is shady as fuck but the top recruits in the area do go through him so swallow your fucking pride for a day instead of doing irreparable damage to your in-state recruiting

I also wonder how much of it is due to DeBoer and his staff not making Washington a priority at FSU and having more solid connections in CA, TX, and AZ. I wonder if they had to do more research on WA kids, watching film and talking with coaches, before feeling comfortable with extending an offer. That and they probably already had a number of offers out to CA and TX kids who they already started working on while at FSU.

2024 class looks more normal right now with WA ahead of all other states besides CA.

 

[insinceredawg]

The in-state stuff at this point is borderline laughable

The narrative on DM and Discord are it's Jimmy's fault for poisoning the relationships with the local schools and 7v7 programs. That could be partially true but I don't think KDB should be blameless in this shit show. They had a chance to go suck off Tracy and Reggie before Lanning arrived in Eugene but instead they were throwing out hail mary offers to kids all over the country. I refuse to believe that if they had gotten all in on the local recruits that we'd be seeing this type of exodus. This is 3 years in a row where UW completely misses on the top in state talent.

Agree. How difficult is it to go meet with the guy for an afternoon or invite him in after getting hired. Yes, the guy is shady as fuck but the top recruits in the area do go through him so swallow your fucking pride for a day instead of doing irreparable damage to your in-state recruiting

I also wonder how much of it is due to DeBoer and his staff not making Washington a priority at FSU and having more solid connections in CA, TX, and AZ. I wonder if they had to do more research on WA kids, watching film and talking with coaches, before feeling comfortable with extending an offer. That and they probably already had a number of offers out to CA and TX kids who they already started working on while at FSU.

2024 class looks more normal right now with WA ahead of all other states besides CA.[/b]

What do you mean?

 

[insinceredawg]

The in-state stuff at this point is borderline laughable

The narrative on DM and Discord are it's Jimmy's fault for poisoning the relationships with the local schools and 7v7 programs. That could be partially true but I don't think KDB should be blameless in this shit show. They had a chance to go suck off Tracy and Reggie before Lanning arrived in Eugene but instead they were throwing out hail mary offers to kids all over the country. I refuse to believe that if they had gotten all in on the local recruits that we'd be seeing this type of exodus. This is 3 years in a row where UW completely misses on the top in state talent.

Agree. How difficult is it to go meet with the guy for an afternoon or invite him in after getting hired. Yes, the guy is shady as fuck but the top recruits in the area do go through him so swallow your fucking pride for a day instead of doing irreparable damage to your in-state recruiting

Yeah they should have hired his brother or something to land these guys because that worked out so well.

I can’t wait to boo the kids.

Lanning didn't even have to do that. All he did to win Tracy over was stroke his ego by visiting FSP and taking him to Joey's. I don't think KDB wanted to kiss the ring and this is the result. If Nick Saban can do the electric slide, Harbaugh can climb a tree, and Brian Kelly can do whatever the fuck he does on that spinning platform then the least KDB can do is kiss Tracy's ass for 5 minutes a month so he doesn't hold a vendetta.

 

[whatshouldicareabout]

The in-state stuff at this point is borderline laughable

The narrative on DM and Discord are it's Jimmy's fault for poisoning the relationships with the local schools and 7v7 programs. That could be partially true but I don't think KDB should be blameless in this shit show. They had a chance to go suck off Tracy and Reggie before Lanning arrived in Eugene but instead they were throwing out hail mary offers to kids all over the country. I refuse to believe that if they had gotten all in on the local recruits that we'd be seeing this type of exodus. This is 3 years in a row where UW completely misses on the top in state talent.

Agree. How difficult is it to go meet with the guy for an afternoon or invite him in after getting hired. Yes, the guy is shady as fuck but the top recruits in the area do go through him so swallow your fucking pride for a day instead of doing irreparable damage to your in-state recruiting

I also wonder how much of it is due to DeBoer and his staff not making Washington a priority at FSU and having more solid connections in CA, TX, and AZ. I wonder if they had to do more research on WA kids, watching film and talking with coaches, before feeling comfortable with extending an offer. That and they probably already had a number of offers out to CA and TX kids who they already started working on while at FSU.

2024 class looks more normal right now with WA ahead of all other states besides CA.[/b]

What do you mean?

The 2023 class has 177 offers across 30 states. The top 4 states by offer are CA (64, 36%), TX (23, 13%), AZ (12, 7%), FL (10, 6%), and WA (10, 6%). The focus on CA, TX, and AZ reflects how DeBoer and his staff recruited at Fresno if you look at his offers and commits his 2 years there. The other east coast and midwest offers likely reflect work already started by Shepard and Breckterfield when they were at Purdue and Vandy (we have 10 states with offers for WR and 19 states for DL).

The 2024 class has 70 offers across 14 states. The top 4 states by offer are CA (35, 50%), WA (11, 16%), AZ (6, 9%), and TX (5, 7%). Now that DeBoer and staff are in WA, the focus in 2024 is now on WA's traditional footprint of CA first, WA second, everyone else third, as you can see the shift in percentages between states.

CA is +14%
WA is +10%
AZ is +2%
MO is -5%
TX is -6%
FL is -10%

In fact, the only state with more offers in 2024 over 2023 is in WA, so they are already making 2024 a priority over 2023.

 

[Tequilla]

The in-state stuff at this point is borderline laughable

The doog narrative on DM and Discord are it's Jimmy's fault for poisoning the relationships with the local schools and 7v7 programs. That could be partially true but I don't think KDB should be blameless in this shit show. They had a chance to go suck off Tracy and Reggie before Lanning arrived in Eugene but instead they were throwing out hail mary offers to kids all over the country. I refuse to believe that if they had gotten all in on the local recruits that we'd be seeing this type of exodus. This is 3 years in a row where UW completely misses on the top in state talent.

It’s been an issue for 3 coaches now (Pete to the least extent) so at this point it’s likely more systemic than coach specific

That said the worst thing we could have done was hire/fire Thomas Ford … gives Tracy some built in ammo

 

[Tequilla]

The in-state stuff at this point is borderline laughable

The narrative on DM and Discord are it's Jimmy's fault for poisoning the relationships with the local schools and 7v7 programs. That could be partially true but I don't think KDB should be blameless in this shit show. They had a chance to go suck off Tracy and Reggie before Lanning arrived in Eugene but instead they were throwing out hail mary offers to kids all over the country. I refuse to believe that if they had gotten all in on the local recruits that we'd be seeing this type of exodus. This is 3 years in a row where UW completely misses on the top in state talent.

Agree. How difficult is it to go meet with the guy for an afternoon or invite him in after getting hired. Yes, the guy is shady as fuck but the top recruits in the area do go through him so swallow your fucking pride for a day instead of doing irreparable damage to your in-state recruiting

I also wonder how much of it is due to DeBoer and his staff not making Washington a priority at FSU and having more solid connections in CA, TX, and AZ. I wonder if they had to do more research on WA kids, watching film and talking with coaches, before feeling comfortable with extending an offer. That and they probably already had a number of offers out to CA and TX kids who they already started working on while at FSU.

2024 class looks more normal right now with WA ahead of all other states besides CA.

Guarantee DeBoer had limited connections at Fresno outside of California … it’s a big reason why the transition class sucked so much because he had nothing at Fresno that translated in recruiting to the P5 level

 

[Tequilla]

The in-state stuff at this point is borderline laughable

The narrative on DM and Discord are it's Jimmy's fault for poisoning the relationships with the local schools and 7v7 programs. That could be partially true but I don't think KDB should be blameless in this shit show. They had a chance to go suck off Tracy and Reggie before Lanning arrived in Eugene but instead they were throwing out hail mary offers to kids all over the country. I refuse to believe that if they had gotten all in on the local recruits that we'd be seeing this type of exodus. This is 3 years in a row where UW completely misses on the top in state talent.

Agree. How difficult is it to go meet with the guy for an afternoon or invite him in after getting hired. Yes, the guy is shady as fuck but the top recruits in the area do go through him so swallow your fucking pride for a day instead of doing irreparable damage to your in-state recruiting

Yeah they should have hired his brother or something to land these guys because that worked out so well.

I can’t wait to boo the kids.

Lanning didn't even have to do that. All he did to win Tracy over was stroke his ego by visiting FSP and taking him to Joey's. I don't think KDB wanted to kiss the ring and this is the result. If Nick Saban can do the electric slide, Harbaugh can climb a tree, and Brian Kelly can do whatever the fuck he does on that spinning platform then the least KDB can do is kiss Tracy's ass for 5 minutes a month so he doesn't hold a vendetta.

Pretty sure the “vendetta” is deeper than kissing someone’s ass

 

[TrumpsWall]

Fuck Tracy. If And when UW wins it’ll change. Eventually kids will stop listening to it and I can’t understand why an adult male would waste that much time bad mouthing the local school. For whatever reason. Giant waste of time.

 

[huskyhooligan]

Hmm, first time seeing this article. Kind of sheds some light on Heir.
https://archive.ph/lDbZE#selection-1405.33-1405.353

I think the focus of the programs has been helpful in getting kids noticed, and scholarships. That being said I think it's clear there are some huge ego's running these locations. The fact some of these kids lead with FSP or Heir on recruiting edits is interesting.

 

[huskyhooligan]

Also apparently Tracy Ford (FSP) and Reggie Jones (Heir) are cousins. Interesting.

 

[CFetters_Nacho_Lover]

Hmm, first time seeing this article. Kind of sheds some light on Heir.
https://archive.ph/lDbZE#selection-1405.33-1405.353

I think the focus of the programs has been helpful in getting kids noticed, and scholarships. That being said I think it's clear there are some huge ego's running these locations. The fact some of these kids lead with FSP or Heir on recruiting edits is interesting.

This whole industry reeks of egos, money grabs, and corruption.

 

[Tequilla]

Hmm, first time seeing this article. Kind of sheds some light on Heir.
https://archive.ph/lDbZE#selection-1405.33-1405.353

I think the focus of the programs has been helpful in getting kids noticed, and scholarships. That being said I think it's clear there are some huge ego's running these locations. The fact some of these kids lead with FSP or Heir on recruiting edits is interesting.

Seeing that more and more … which is a really disturbing sign of how the “AAU world” has entrenched itself