are there any normal left leaning posters on here?

[CallMeBigErn]

I knew that would fly over like a lead balloon.
Fascistic tactics and fascism are woefully misunderstood. The MAGA movement exhibits many of the hallmarks. IDGAF what the response is.
Trump is not Hitler though.

I mean, you could try a rebuttal to my post.

I'm not watching your video. If you can't make 4 to 5 bullet points of concise information, that doesn't reflect well on your argument.

Spouting a bunch of isms ain't it

You know what the argument is. DucksFC and I just said the same thing in a ton of different words. He did better than I. Not sure what you're lacking or sad about.

 

[EverettChris]

I knew that would fly over like a lead balloon.
Fascistic tactics and fascism are woefully misunderstood. The MAGA movement exhibits many of the hallmarks. IDGAF what the response is.
Trump is not Hitler though.

I mean, you could try a rebuttal to my post.

I'm not watching your video. If you can't make 4 to 5 bullet points of concise information, that doesn't reflect well on your argument.

Spouting a bunch of isms ain't it

You know what the argument is. DucksFC and I just said the same thing in a ton of different words. He did better than I. Not sure what you're lacking or sad about.

You unsurprisingly refuse to answer a simple question and instead say it’s because I don’t deserve an answer. I called you out on your rambling bullshit and you know it, so now it’s time to hide when a simple question is asked of you.
How does Democrat politicians and judges in multiple Blue and Swing states banning Trump from the ballot “Protect Democracy?”

 

[EverettChris]

@CallMeBigErn posted:
anti-LGBT rhetoric

Ern, if being in favor of grown men showering in locker rooms with underage girls is a foundational part of the LGBT platform, I’ll admit to being anti-LGBT for that part of their activism.
Question Two
@CallMeBigErn, are you a proponent of allowing grown men into the showers with little girls as a standard policy?

 

[PostGameOrangeSlices]

I knew that would fly over like a lead balloon.
Fascistic tactics and fascism are woefully misunderstood. The MAGA movement exhibits many of the hallmarks. IDGAF what the response is.
Trump is not Hitler though.

I mean, you could try a rebuttal to my post.

I'm not watching your video. If you can't make 4 to 5 bullet points of concise information, that doesn't reflect well on your argument.

Spouting a bunch of isms ain't it

You know what the argument is. DucksFC and I just said the same thing in a ton of different words. He did better than I. Not sure what you're lacking or sad about.

I really don't.

It seems to be "orange man bad".

 

[CallMeBigErn]

I knew that would fly over like a lead balloon.
Fascistic tactics and fascism are woefully misunderstood. The MAGA movement exhibits many of the hallmarks. IDGAF what the response is.
Trump is not Hitler though.

I mean, you could try a rebuttal to my post.

I'm not watching your video. If you can't make 4 to 5 bullet points of concise information, that doesn't reflect well on your argument.

Spouting a bunch of isms ain't it

You know what the argument is. DucksFC and I just said the same thing in a ton of different words. He did better than I. Not sure what you're lacking or sad about.

I really don't.

It seems to be "orange man bad".

I'm certainly not a fan.
If everything you take from this thread is "orange man bad", you're more simple than I thought.
At least you're solid on Ukraine.

 

[EverettChris]

It’s easy to take from this thread that @CallMeBigErn can’t answer simple questions as he then insults another poster for being a simple man.
You’re write cliched gibberish, dude, and offer no examples to support your claims.
Your first say here you stated that real conversation was too “in the weeds” for you, and nothing at all has changed.

 

[PostGameOrangeSlices]

I'm just asking for 4 to 5 bullet points on how Trump is a fascist.

No, using American flags is not fascism

 

[UW_Doog_Bot]

I'm just asking for 4 to 5 bullet points on how Trump is a fascist.

No, using American flags is not fascism

Biden’s fascist bingo hits

1. Weaponizing DOJ/FBI
2. Ideological Purge of the military
3. Declaring large sections of the opposition "domestic terrorists"
4. Lawfare of political opposition
5. Jab mandates

Plenty more but it doesn't matter to those who are "intentionally ignorant".
Trump though, if you just read between the lines that BlueAnnon scribbles in you'll get it.

 

[CallMeBigErn]

I'm just asking for 4 to 5 bullet points on how Trump is a fascist.

No, using American flags is not fascism

Dude treat every comma in my post as a bullet and you might get it.
The point was to show how Trump is not Hitler, but he and his MAGA movement utilize fascistic ideology and strategies daily.
At what point does, despite "not being a fascist", but continuing to embrace and use fascistic strategies, rhetoric, etc, make you a fascist? There has to be a line somewhere. Argue about that line all you want but I don't really care.
What's the quote, something like "If you have 10 people and one Nazi at a dinner table willingly eating together, you have 11 Nazis."
He's an absolute con man at best, using quid pro quo from the jump. An installed puppet for his handlers in a 10 year grift of his followers using classic fascistic strategies, which I listed about 20 of. If you want me to provide examples of every single one of those strategies, I might, but I was hoping you would be like "Oh yeah okay, I can see that. I remember that."
The grift is extreme.

 

[PostGameOrangeSlices]

I'm just asking for 4 to 5 bullet points on how Trump is a fascist.

No, using American flags is not fascism

Dude treat every comma in my post as a bullet and you might get it.
The point was to show how Trump is not Hitler, but he and his MAGA movement utilize fascistic ideology and strategies daily.
At what point does, despite "not being a fascist", but continuing to embrace and use fascistic strategies, rhetoric, etc, make you a fascist? There has to be a line somewhere. Argue about that line all you want but I don't really care.
What's the quote, something like "If you have 10 people and one Nazi at a dinner table willingly eating together, you have 11 Nazis."
He's an absolute con man at best, using quid pro quo from the jump. An installed puppet for his handlers in a 10 year grift of his followers using classic fascistic strategies, which I listed about 20 of. If you want me to provide examples of every single one of those strategies, I might, but I was hoping you would be like "Oh yeah okay, I can see that. I remember that."
The grift is extreme.

You spouted a bunch of isms without giving much for concrete examples. You said he was anti immigrant. I countered that. You said he was using religion to stoke fascist flames or whatever. Flags and stuff. Anti LBGTQ

Not really seeing that. How is Trump anti lbgtq? How is he anti immigrant?

Trump is rough around the edges and not the best orator at times. He gives the left bad soundbites to run with at times.
But from a policy standpoint I am not seeing the fascism...

 

[CallMeBigErn]

I'm just asking for 4 to 5 bullet points on how Trump is a fascist.

No, using American flags is not fascism

Dude treat every comma in my post as a bullet and you might get it.
The point was to show how Trump is not Hitler, but he and his MAGA movement utilize fascistic ideology and strategies daily.
At what point does, despite "not being a fascist", but continuing to embrace and use fascistic strategies, rhetoric, etc, make you a fascist? There has to be a line somewhere. Argue about that line all you want but I don't really care.
What's the quote, something like "If you have 10 people and one Nazi at a dinner table willingly eating together, you have 11 Nazis."
He's an absolute con man at best, using quid pro quo from the jump. An installed puppet for his handlers in a 10 year grift of his followers using classic fascistic strategies, which I listed about 20 of. If you want me to provide examples of every single one of those strategies, I might, but I was hoping you would be like "Oh yeah okay, I can see that. I remember that."
The grift is extreme.

You spouted a bunch of isms without giving much for concrete examples. You said he was anti immigrant. I countered that. You said he was using religion to stoke fascist flames or whatever. Flags and stuff. Anti LBGTQ

Not really seeing that. How is Trump anti lbgtq? How is he anti immigrant?

Trump is rough around the edges and not the best orator at times. He gives the left bad soundbites to run with at times.
But from a policy standpoint I am not seeing the fascism...

I will come back to this, but you're missing my point I've made in every post. it's not Trump, per se. It's the MAGA movement, the ideology, the rhetoric, and the people who are influencing him. He's a willing vessel. A damn good one.

 

[PostGameOrangeSlices]

I'm just asking for 4 to 5 bullet points on how Trump is a fascist.

No, using American flags is not fascism

Dude treat every comma in my post as a bullet and you might get it.
The point was to show how Trump is not Hitler, but he and his MAGA movement utilize fascistic ideology and strategies daily.
At what point does, despite "not being a fascist", but continuing to embrace and use fascistic strategies, rhetoric, etc, make you a fascist? There has to be a line somewhere. Argue about that line all you want but I don't really care.
What's the quote, something like "If you have 10 people and one Nazi at a dinner table willingly eating together, you have 11 Nazis."
He's an absolute con man at best, using quid pro quo from the jump. An installed puppet for his handlers in a 10 year grift of his followers using classic fascistic strategies, which I listed about 20 of. If you want me to provide examples of every single one of those strategies, I might, but I was hoping you would be like "Oh yeah okay, I can see that. I remember that."
The grift is extreme.

You spouted a bunch of isms without giving much for concrete examples. You said he was anti immigrant. I countered that. You said he was using religion to stoke fascist flames or whatever. Flags and stuff. Anti LBGTQ

Not really seeing that. How is Trump anti lbgtq? How is he anti immigrant?

Trump is rough around the edges and not the best orator at times. He gives the left bad soundbites to run with at times.
But from a policy standpoint I am not seeing the fascism...

I will come back to this, but you're missing my point I've made in every post. it's not Trump, per se. It's the MAGA movement, the ideology, the rhetoric, and the people who are influencing him. He's a willing vessel. A damn good one.

MAGA can be cringey and I'm not a big fan of the slogan due to the second A, but fascist is a word thrown around way too "liberally" by "liberals".

 

[Sledog]

Trump is not Hitler.
Trump and the MAGA movement are fascistic by lots of definitions though.
Hitler is the extreme example. Orban, Putin, and Trump are Diet Fascist.
Watch this and tell me some/most of these tactics aren't core MAGA tactics and messaging.

Big Ern is anti-fascist.

Fern you twit. Demonrats censored the news, the internet, Twitter, sicked the feds on anyone who disagreed with the Biden Dem machine, released a pandemic, murdered American citizens, mandated experimental harmful vaccines, committed treason by allowing a foreign invasion, laundered foreign side back to themselves, had illegal secret biolabs in a foreign nation that caused a war, etc etc etc.
List all of trumps fascism. I'll wait.

 

[Goduckies]

Yes. Me.
I get it, this bored is a cum fiesta for Trump and that's fine, y'all have your space and are happy with it. I don't feel like getting into it 99% of the time, because I prefer, as a Duck that we insult and threaten each other's families over football instead of politics. But I do consider myself "normal" while having some left-leaning views and not voting for Trump.
I don't think all Republicans are Nazis, far from it. I do think MAGA is a cult of personality. I think the Democratic Party is weak, pathetic and leaderless. They've thrown their weight behind a geriatric who belongs in a nursing home and it's fucking embarrassing. They could've shut this shit down in 2016 and they didn't because instead of running Bernie, they ran literally the most hated woman in politics. I knew it was a disaster right away. Bernie's also a geriatric, but unlike Biden he's not senile, and despite being even further left, I think even some of the hardliners on this board respected him for being a decent, genuine guy trying to do what he thought was the right thing. And the DNC buttfucked him. They deserved what they got.
Trump knows exactly what he's doing. He tows the line, not actually directly calling for violence but always tiptoeing around it with a wink and a nudge. I agree with Ern above on the rhetoric. I'm over the stupid Hitler comparisons to everything because it's fucking stupid, but Trump has pulled a lot of cards from the fascist playbook (on purpose) and the MAGA crowd goes even further. That's not bullshitting, that's a direct fact. There are miles of videos and studies that show it. I don't think Trump believes any of this shit. He's certainly not religious, he doesn't really give a fuck about Christian values/evangelicalism and couldn't care less about things like immigration. He's in it for himself and that's it. I think he's in the discussion as the greatest conman who ever lived. I don't think he even expected to win in 2016, but when he found out he could just say extreme shit all the time and people would lap it up, he knew he had something. That then evolved into him making his supporters believe him, and only him as the trusted source of news. Everyone else is the enemy.
I already thought he'd probably win this time if the Democrats didn't figure their shit out, and now after that shitshow of a debate and now this, he's probably got it locked unless the Dems pull the nuclear option and throw in someone out of left field who can ignite them the same way. Which they probably won't and at this point it's too late anyway. They'll run the fucking skeleton or on the 1% chance they don't, they'll run Kamala's stupid ass, they'll lose and then the Dems will all look around crying "whut happen?!?!" and proceed to do nothing about it.
I just miss the days where we cared more about binders full of women, who Bill was putting his dick in and a guy screaming YEAAAHH at a rally than this shit. This is just absurd how stupid things have gotten. I fucking hate the Democratic party as it exists today for its weakness and its misguided priorities, and watching Biden is a perpetual embarrassment. Trump, while I won't support him, doesn't scare me so much as MAGA does. MAGA scares the shit out of me with some of the policies they want to implement, and makes me genuinely worry for the future of this country if they get their way. The hypocrisy of their views when contrasted with their "Christian" ideologies is something I don't have any respect for. That's my opinion. I don't think I'm a nutjob for having that viewpoint.
Fuck off vote me if you want, but that's where I stand since PGOS asked. Thank you and DIAFF

You are far more eloquent than me, but I feel like you're inside my head. I was a Bernie man myself, and that motherfucker was the good side of populism. A benevolent populism, speaking to the exact concerns that everybody has right now, on both sides. He was fucking robbed for Hillary. I had to vote for Hillary considering the alternative but god damnit.
Incredible post, you're my new fave Duck. You get it.

He was robbed by socialism... take ehat you earn and give it to someone else... was awesome.

 

[Goduckies]

@CallMeBigErn posted:
anti-LGBT rhetoric

Ern, if being in favor of grown men showering in locker rooms with underage girls is a foundational part of the LGBT platform, I’ll admit to being anti-LGBT for that part of their activism.
Question Two
@CallMeBigErn, are you a proponent of allowing grown men into the showers with little girls as a standard policy?

Yup, I'm pro LGB... but T can fuck off... there is too much creepy shit with that....

 

[CallMeBigErn]

Yes. Me.
I get it, this bored is a cum fiesta for Trump and that's fine, y'all have your space and are happy with it. I don't feel like getting into it 99% of the time, because I prefer, as a Duck that we insult and threaten each other's families over football instead of politics. But I do consider myself "normal" while having some left-leaning views and not voting for Trump.
I don't think all Republicans are Nazis, far from it. I do think MAGA is a cult of personality. I think the Democratic Party is weak, pathetic and leaderless. They've thrown their weight behind a geriatric who belongs in a nursing home and it's fucking embarrassing. They could've shut this shit down in 2016 and they didn't because instead of running Bernie, they ran literally the most hated woman in politics. I knew it was a disaster right away. Bernie's also a geriatric, but unlike Biden he's not senile, and despite being even further left, I think even some of the hardliners on this board respected him for being a decent, genuine guy trying to do what he thought was the right thing. And the DNC buttfucked him. They deserved what they got.
Trump knows exactly what he's doing. He tows the line, not actually directly calling for violence but always tiptoeing around it with a wink and a nudge. I agree with Ern above on the rhetoric. I'm over the stupid Hitler comparisons to everything because it's fucking stupid, but Trump has pulled a lot of cards from the fascist playbook (on purpose) and the MAGA crowd goes even further. That's not bullshitting, that's a direct fact. There are miles of videos and studies that show it. I don't think Trump believes any of this shit. He's certainly not religious, he doesn't really give a fuck about Christian values/evangelicalism and couldn't care less about things like immigration. He's in it for himself and that's it. I think he's in the discussion as the greatest conman who ever lived. I don't think he even expected to win in 2016, but when he found out he could just say extreme shit all the time and people would lap it up, he knew he had something. That then evolved into him making his supporters believe him, and only him as the trusted source of news. Everyone else is the enemy.
I already thought he'd probably win this time if the Democrats didn't figure their shit out, and now after that shitshow of a debate and now this, he's probably got it locked unless the Dems pull the nuclear option and throw in someone out of left field who can ignite them the same way. Which they probably won't and at this point it's too late anyway. They'll run the fucking skeleton or on the 1% chance they don't, they'll run Kamala's stupid ass, they'll lose and then the Dems will all look around crying "whut happen?!?!" and proceed to do nothing about it.
I just miss the days where we cared more about binders full of women, who Bill was putting his dick in and a guy screaming YEAAAHH at a rally than this shit. This is just absurd how stupid things have gotten. I fucking hate the Democratic party as it exists today for its weakness and its misguided priorities, and watching Biden is a perpetual embarrassment. Trump, while I won't support him, doesn't scare me so much as MAGA does. MAGA scares the shit out of me with some of the policies they want to implement, and makes me genuinely worry for the future of this country if they get their way. The hypocrisy of their views when contrasted with their "Christian" ideologies is something I don't have any respect for. That's my opinion. I don't think I'm a nutjob for having that viewpoint.
Fuck off vote me if you want, but that's where I stand since PGOS asked. Thank you and DIAFF

You are far more eloquent than me, but I feel like you're inside my head. I was a Bernie man myself, and that motherfucker was the good side of populism. A benevolent populism, speaking to the exact concerns that everybody has right now, on both sides. He was fucking robbed for Hillary. I had to vote for Hillary considering the alternative but god damnit.
Incredible post, you're my new fave Duck. You get it.

He was robbed by socialism... take ehat you earn and give it to someone else... was awesome.

Bernie was, like many politicians, too hard-headed, leaning in to the "democratic socialist", "social democrat" shit too much, railing on and on about the 1%. He was right, but he made himself a pariah. He was a New Deal FDR Democrat. He should have ran with that the entire time. Remember, the highest corporate tax rate in this country was under Dwight E. 50%+. It's slowly dropped since. We wonder why the 50s-70s were the boom times, the baby boom times, for the working and middle class, with affordable college. Gee, I wonder. Trickle down is bullshit. Corporate taxation is legit. For normal people.

People forget how "socialist" this country really has been, economically. People forget our military, GI bill, medicare, social security, labor unions, etc. Many things Americans take for granted now are wholly socialist whether they know it or not.

The second Bernie said "social" he was done. You don't mention the word "social" in this country. That's been the case since WWI, Eugene Debs, the Red Scare, the Cold War, etc. It's planted in the American brainframe as a boogeyman and it's unfortunate.

 

[Goduckies]

80's were boom times too.... and that's because Reagan cut the taxes.... as to the 50's and 60's... that was due to the bounce back after WW2.

 

[CallMeBigErn]

80's were boom times too.... and that's because Reagan cut the taxes.... as to the 50's and 60's... that was due to the bounce back after WW2.

Makes the mind spin all kinds of inferences. I'm just throwing this out there. Should make every individual who isn't a corporation angry.

 

[Goduckies]

Since consumers end up paying corporate taxes, what's your issue?

 

[Bendintheriver]

Bernie is a classic socialist/communist. Neither has ever worked in the history of the world. As a matter of fact bernie is the embodiment of the failure and hypocrisy of the socialist/communist movement. He rails against the rich and excessive possessions but BAM, he becomes a multi millionaire overnight and all of the sudden has several new homes to live and vacation in. Bernie is a typical bullshit artist. Everyone has to suffer financially but him.