Apparently Sark deserves some credit for Petersen's recruiting success...

It sucks that we will want to fire Peterman this season because of Sark's recruiting. I don't want to give him a pass because there does seem to be a few coaching issues that need to show improvement, cough Jonathon Smith and the entire offense, but this team sucks. 2012 is a worst in the Pac 12 type of class. There is Shaq and maybe two or three middling starters (Mickens, Littleton, maybe Eldrenkamp and Brostek).

2013 had some good players and there are other young guys with promise. Still, a lot of the guys that had fans excited are gone. Daeshon Hall left before signing day, Farria is gone, Troy Williams, String, Jermaine Kelly. Williams, String, and Kelly were pretty much in everyone's top 5 lists of the best recruits in the class. I guess the doogpound crew can blame Peterman for those guys being gone.

I thought it was asinine when PLSS said Sark took over a more talented program than Petersen. It's a damn close call.

I don't entirely disagree but wanted to ask if you thought UW right now has less talent than any of these teams:

Boise State
Sacramento State
Utah State
Cal
Stanford
Arizona
Utah
Oregon State
WSU

Stanford and ASU are arguable. Maybe Cal. The rest? Not really. Still amazing to me that a hire everyone celebrated, with a 92-12 record, is getting a write off year despite having more talent than 2/3 of his schedule.

Let's hear it, doogs.

LOL!
 
there is every possibility that we're going to be surprised by the development of many players this fall. The QB situation will be tough to overcome, but we might fare better overall than we're expecting.
 
there is every possibility that we're going to be surprised by the development of many players this fall. The QB situation will be tough to overcome, but we might fare better overall than we're expecting.

We should.

Last year, Shelton, Riva and several other plays spoke volumes about the differences between Ivan and Socha. Make no mistake that Shelton, Kikaha, A.Hudson, and many others had their best years partially due to a real, genuine S&C coach. Another important factor to consider is that Socha needed to spend a lot of time teaching the players how to lift free weights, so all the players now should know how to lift and be lifting properly. We also hired a nutritionist, someone we didn't have under Sark, which should be helping with the S&C.

I think the OL and DL should benefit greatly from Socha, especially since he was an OL himself.
 
there is every possibility that we're going to be surprised by the development of many players this fall. The QB situation will be tough to overcome, but we might fare better overall than we're expecting.

They should make a bowl. Everybody does nowadays and only teams that's are absolutely terrible don't.
 
Cuogs didn't make a bowl last year... didn't even come close. Bull Muse says improvement last season from the previous bowl game season was obvious... so it CAN happen.
 
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