Jokes aside, Harbaugh did well almost every year at Michigan but couldn’t beat Ohio State and had trouble with Sparty. They bottomed out in 2020, and were really good and beat Ohio State every year before capping it with a natty.
Anybody notice the growing trend of coaches getting axed in October?
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Correct me if I’m wrong but wasn’t he rubbing people wrong around the time he took a pay cut? I remember hearing he wears people out after a couple years or until he started beating Ohio State and the natty of course.
He was so good at Stanford and the foundation was so strong it carried what’s his face for years after he left. He’s a great coach, would love to have someone similar at UW obviously.
Agreed.
What I loved about the job he did at Stanford is that he came up with a type of plan and formula that could work with the constraints they have, and leaned in hard.
The contrast in style they played with, while maybe not as exciting as some, was beautifully different and they ran it to great effect.
I used to love watching them grind down the Oregon teams of the era.
Slash & Dash & hyper tempo? Ha!
Here's some power run and TE's coming up your ass for 3 straight hours Ducky…
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creepycoug
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Wasn't Stanford 1-3 against Oregon during Harbaugh's tenure? And that one win didn't really scream "grind down" to me, when both offenses were over 500 yards, unless you're a TOP junkie, which I have learned to not be. Those Oregon teams were better running teams than they were passing teams. They were pretty physical. And in this matchup Stanford was featuring Gerhart, who's about as punishing a runner as they've had.
To me, Harbaugh's defining accomplishment during his run at Stanford was his work against USC under Peter Carroll. I know taking that position calls into question the whole respect thing but I've never suffered from that particular Husky ailment.
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Perhaps - I was referring more to the overall thing he built and Shaw continued on with I guess.
The SC respect thing is more a joke around here was my thought. I know a few doogs here won’t like me saying this but there has only been one college football blue blood west of the Rocky Mountains and it isn’t UW. We have a rich football history obviously, dating back nearly a century and I’m proud of our school and program. And if you downvote or FO, don’t be a pussy and let’s hear your doog argument. I’ve been alive for what should have been 3 natties and our distracted head coach runner up.
…for those triggered, he’s a great coach and I wish UW had the willingness to make him say no to a legitimate offer
…for those triggered, he’s a great coach and I wish UW had the willingness to make him say no to a legitimate offer
Once Chip was HC, Oregon owned Harbaugh. It was David Shaw who had our? number, most notably in 2012 with a still-controversial TD catch by Zach Ertz to send the game to OT. And we? lost.
So much to hate about this game.
Thanks for the reminder, asshole.
Tequilla
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@DerekJohnson
It's happening because everybody is trying to get ahead of the new coach search so that they can have it done immediately at the end of the regular season so that they can do damage control on both their HS recruiting and internal roster via NIL/Portal
The problem that we ran into with the DeBoer to Fisch transition was that it was outside of those windows and that the current "rules" basically fuck over a program that was in our situation because it can be fair game on people trying to take away your players but you have no remedy to really rebuild your roster. If you find yourself in that situation it's almost impossible to be any kind of good the following year and it still takes some time to build out your roster and its depth (as we are seeing this year).
So for all of those people that are begging for somebody to hire Fisch away, do so in understanding the following:
I don't even have any strong opinions on whether Fisch is or isn't the guy … it's still too early for me to say that given what he inherited.
But I do know that there's almost zero chance that this program is in a better spot in 2026 with a different coach.
I do hope that when Fisch is done here that his next job is in the NFL and not somewhere else in College Football because that means he's had tangible success here.
And for those that think you should just fire Fisch now … what kind of message is that sending throughout the coaching community? Do you actually think that you're going to get a high-end coach by doing that?
It's happening because everybody is trying to get ahead of the new coach search so that they can have it done immediately at the end of the regular season so that they can do damage control on both their HS recruiting and internal roster via NIL/Portal
The problem that we ran into with the DeBoer to Fisch transition was that it was outside of those windows and that the current "rules" basically fuck over a program that was in our situation because it can be fair game on people trying to take away your players but you have no remedy to really rebuild your roster. If you find yourself in that situation it's almost impossible to be any kind of good the following year and it still takes some time to build out your roster and its depth (as we are seeing this year).
So for all of those people that are begging for somebody to hire Fisch away, do so in understanding the following:
- We will be navigating a coaching search AFTER the balance of the top candidates have already been landed
- We will likely have limited time to make a hire before running into the HS recruiting & portal windows leading to a likely protracted search that increases the opportunity of making a poor hire
- You'll likely be hitting the reset on a competitive window taking us back far closer to 2024 than where we would be heading into next year with the status quo
- The "can build back fast" angle only works if you're going overly aggressive into the portal which requires A) a bunch of NIL money (spoiler: UW doesn't have that) and B) assumes that the players in the portal are good (most are players that aren't good and looking for a fresh start) and C) that the combo of A + B means that somehow your plan revolves around enticing the good established players to choose a rebuilding UW over programs that are on a far sturdier foundation and way closer to competing for a Natty than UW would be in Year 1 under the next guy
I don't even have any strong opinions on whether Fisch is or isn't the guy … it's still too early for me to say that given what he inherited.
But I do know that there's almost zero chance that this program is in a better spot in 2026 with a different coach.
I do hope that when Fisch is done here that his next job is in the NFL and not somewhere else in College Football because that means he's had tangible success here.
And for those that think you should just fire Fisch now … what kind of message is that sending throughout the coaching community? Do you actually think that you're going to get a high-end coach by doing that?
creepycoug
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No, not a joke. I've published pieces about it in the Journal of Applied Psychology. It is a thing. But as with most maladies, not everyone suffers from it. Otherwise, it wouldn't be a malady.
I note, however, your blue blood assertion, which really doesn't need asserting. There is no argument, doog or otherwise, that is worth a listen.
creepycoug
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Perhaps.
6-7 playing against the likes of Helfrich, Taggard and Cristobal. It was against Stanford that Crisco really began showing his talent for snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.
Yeah, call me a hater, but I was never quite as taken with Intellectual Brutality as others.
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that was a good one btw.
People forget Saint DeBoer didn't have a do an insane amount of transfer portal work to get that roster in place. And BPE was a very unique transfer type scenario.
Yeah yeah yeah
Fisch still sucks and DeBoer is the best coach since James
Maybe give it a rest boys
Fisch still sucks and DeBoer is the best coach since James
Maybe give it a rest boys
In fairness, at my age the attention span isn’t there. I’m sure you make some good points though.
He would be perfectly annoying at Cal
Was just chatting with some family last night (all very long time Cal fans & donors) and they seem perfectly content with Wilcox.
Their main complaint is not playing any of the old rivals anymore (PAC 8/10 basically).
I agree with them.
My excitement about upcoming matches with Illinois, Wiscy & Purdue is quite low. As in .. don't even give a F
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TheHB
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Why in the hell would any NFL coach even peek at college football right now. Even when McDaniel gets canned, he’ll walk away with a shit ton of cash and make a nice OC for a team like the Texans.
College football head coach is a much harder job than an NFL head coach. Belichick is learning that right now.
College football head coach is a much harder job than an NFL head coach. Belichick is learning that right now.
Like they say, the NFL stands for Not For Long.