An outsiders perspective

I tend to agree about the nasty Grinolds remarks, I've had plenty of those. I'm done. Had to vent after the abuse and BS many of us paid for.

However, giving Cream Puff (aka Shark) crap is not going to stop. This guy is THE problem with Husky football. Why stop dumping on him? His soft undisciplined teams are the walking dead, year in and year out. There is nothing as important to the program as replacing his deadwood ass.

Spending a lot of time in x and o discussions out of context of this loser are mostly meaningless. The x's and o's always circle back to terrible coaching.

This site could be really good, there are a number of well educated members. My best advice to make this a Husky site (if thats even the goal, but I am assuming it is by the name) is to not make it the dawgman ex-wives club. When every thread involves numerous Sark or Kim insults it kills the content and makes it feel like a Jr. High nerd circle. Too much talent and knowledge out here to be swallowed up by bitterness. I hope this doesnt come across as anything other than honest feedback, not looking for a fight or to pick a side.

With regards to Sark, I absolutely do agree with you that he is soft and undisciplined, especially compared to the standards of coaching I believe we still prefer and expect. In some ways, Sark's program reminds me of what we had with Neuheisel except that Rick was a better recruiter and could sometimes manage a game plan in preparation for and execution during a game. I could say that Sark is Neuheisel brought up in Provo instead of L.A.

However, there is one thing about Sark that I've heard from my adult sons who've been with me in supporting Husky Football since before our 1978 Rose Bowl....... which is that Sark even with his shortcomings has revitalized excitement for our football program. Whether he's still learning as a head coach-in-training or is mostly just PR fluff, Sark is a significant step up from the Fraud who took our money and left us with his 0-12 masterpiece. But then, the Fraud in my opinion always was a huge step down from what we had with Neuheisel.

 
I don't sense much overall excitement for the program, besides the diehards.
 
This site could be really good, there are a number of well educated members. My best advice to make this a Husky site (if thats even the goal, but I am assuming it is by the name) is to not make it the dawgman ex-wives club. When every thread involves numerous Sark or Kim insults it kills the content and makes it feel like a Jr. High nerd circle. Too much talent and knowledge out here to be swallowed up by bitterness. I hope this doesnt come across as anything other than honest feedback, not looking for a fight or to pick a side.

Some things never change.
 
Passion - great response! I have never heard anything like that about Kim and guys before, thanks for sharing your experience. I have enjoyed and respected your voice on husky football for years. Its all about the formula!

Meek - Why are you so cranky? Our program does not suck balls, Colorado's program sucks balls. We are far from where we want to be but to say we suck balls is such an over the top reaction it comes across dumb. Are you not excited for this next year at all? New stadium, Tui back in the house coaching a 5th year SR who we know can ball it up (2011), The greatest TE in the history of the program playing his last year, 2nd year of a great LB group led by Shaq Thompson, a proven top D-Cordinator back for another season (we all saw what he did in his first), a 1,400 yrd rusher returning, a possible kicker with a big leg...... Just to name a few things that get me excited for 2013. Also, you are in the minority in not wanting to know whats happening with recruiting and today isnt my first visit to the site, its just the first time I tried to respond.

Derrick - I am excited for what the future of the site may express. I have always been a fan of your writing. I have bought and read all of your books except the last one and enjoyed them enough to encourage others to purchase. I am sorry you are losing your love for the Dawgs.

Roaddawg55 - I understand your anger toward the "yah Sark" crowd but really who gives a shit about them? They cant change a thing. The overly positive crowd can piss me off too but if I have to exhaust energy toward them then they win again. Rather than discuss ad nauseam the fanbase or the media that covers the team, talk about the team. As of right now, the ONLY fan base this site can attract and KEEP will only be Husky fans that are familiar with Dawgman. I say fuck that, dont be left with someones sloppy seconds.

Damone - Are you an alcoholic? [/i][/b]

DaMoan. Sucking donkey balls since 2013.

 
This site could be really good, there are a number of well educated members. My best advice to make this a Husky site (if thats even the goal, but I am assuming it is by the name) is to not make it the dawgman ex-wives club. When every thread involves numerous Sark or Kim insults it kills the content and makes it feel like a Jr. High nerd circle. Too much talent and knowledge out here to be swallowed up by bitterness. I hope this doesnt come across as anything other than honest feedback, not looking for a fight or to pick a side.

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“This site could be really good, there are a number of well educated members. My best advice to make this a Husky site (if thats even the goal, but I am assuming it is by the name) is to not make it the dawgman ex-wives club. When every thread involves numerous Sark or Kim insults it kills the content and makes it feel like a Jr. High nerd circle”

- 10 years ago….and nothing has changed
 
It does suck that SC and UCLA gets guys like Ryan Abraham and David woods, think ASU and Colorado have some good site people, and UW gets a few really unlikable guys. I mean Fetters with his soccer thing is just embarrassing. Why pay people who don't give a shit about the team they cover.
 
It does suck that SC and UCLA gets guys like Ryan Abraham and David woods, think ASU and Colorado have some good site people, and UW gets a few really unlikable guys. I mean Fetters with his soccer thing is just embarrassing. Why pay people who don't give a shit about the team they cover.
Maybe it's different now, but Kim seemed to like basketball waaaay more. Gross.
 
Some of the DM/Kim stuff is funny but overall it's definitely pretty weak to be centring your posting around someone you don't like from another site that you claim is an unimportant moron

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Some of the DM/Kim stuff is funny but overall it's definitely pretty weak to be centring your posting around someone you don't like from another site that you claim is an unimportant moron

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I don't think you were a doogman guy were you? Maybe just for a short period? A lot of posters here were on that site from the start in the late 90s. I know a lot, like me, got interested in recruiting when Neu was bringing in the Reggie class in 2001 following the RB win and signed up then.

Those who don't get why the Kim and dm.com hate lingers so strongly, in general, just weren't there for long enough to really get it. They see what ducks those guys arez but they didn't see the transition from it being Dave's site to Kim and Fetter's site. Samek wasn't perfect (predicted 12-0 for Gilbertson lol), but he sure treated his customers with a lot more respect than the rest of the idiots.
 
Some of the DM/Kim stuff is funny but overall it's definitely pretty weak to be centring your posting around someone you don't like from another site that you claim is an unimportant moron

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I don't think you were a doogman guy were you? Maybe just for a short period? A lot of posters here were on that site from the start in the late 90s. I know a lot, like me, got interested in recruiting when Neu was bringing in the Reggie class in 2001 following the RB win and signed up then.

Those who don't get why the Kim and dm.com hate lingers so strongly, in general, just weren't there for long enough to really get it. They see what ducks those guys arez but they didn't see the transition from it being Dave's site to Kim and Fetter's site. Samek wasn't perfect (predicted 12-0 for Gilbertson lol), but he sure treated his customers with a lot more respect than the rest of the idiots.

ChuckHIV nailed it.

It's okay to shit on Kim on a semi regular basis here. It doesn't detract from HCH. I'd say it's part of our culture to laugh at Grinolds & Fetters. I'd like to see dm.c fail; implode if you will. The LPT not having a platform to spew their bullshit would be beyond satisfying.

Unfortunately, there are still too many gullible schmucks who subscribe to that site & help keep the lights on.
 
Samek’s wife was cool.

Dave himself seemed cool, based on my brief interactions with him.

Kim & Fetters are contemptible & vapid. These are the same people who retroactively pasted Fetters' name to articles that Derek had written for dm.c. They deserve all the barbs & disdain directed their way. Plagiarising Derek's work is unforgivable.
 
Some of the DM/Kim stuff is funny but overall it's definitely pretty weak to be centring your posting around someone you don't like from another site that you claim is an unimportant moron

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I don't think you were a doogman guy were you? Maybe just for a short period? A lot of posters here were on that site from the start in the late 90s. I know a lot, like me, got interested in recruiting when Neu was bringing in the Reggie class in 2001 following the RB win and signed up then.

Those who don't get why the Kim and dm.com hate lingers so strongly, in general, just weren't there for long enough to really get it. They see what ducks those guys arez but they didn't see the transition from it being Dave's site to Kim and Fetter's site. Samek wasn't perfect (predicted 12-0 for Gilbertson lol), but he sure treated his customers with a lot more respect than the rest of the idiots.

I actually appreciate the history lesson because I have never spent a cent there. Poked around a tiny bit but definitely don't know the full background. It feels like an expanded version of your comment should be in DJs welcome to newcomers thread
 
Some of the DM/Kim stuff is funny but overall it's definitely pretty weak to be centring your posting around someone you don't like from another site that you claim is an unimportant moron

View attachment 59395

I don't think you were a doogman guy were you? Maybe just for a short period? A lot of posters here were on that site from the start in the late 90s. I know a lot, like me, got interested in recruiting when Neu was bringing in the Reggie class in 2001 following the RB win and signed up then.

Those who don't get why the Kim and dm.com hate lingers so strongly, in general, just weren't there for long enough to really get it. They see what ducks those guys arez but they didn't see the transition from it being Dave's site to Kim and Fetter's site. Samek wasn't perfect (predicted 12-0 for Gilbertson lol), but he sure treated his customers with a lot more respect than the rest of the idiots.

I actually appreciate the history lesson because I have never spent a cent there. Poked around a tiny bit but definitely don't know the full background. It feels like an expanded version of your comment should be in DJs welcome to newcomers thread

Someone that knows a hell of a lot more than me should write that. Many here have known those guys personally.
 
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