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[SevenEleven]

Roman giving the cold shoulder to any top 100 player in the area seems suicidal considering one of the main arguments for keeping him is keeping the local talent at home.

Something about this seems strange all around. Having a dad come to a message board seems like a high maintenance overly involved family presence.

I'm sure it's a headache to recruit, but At the end of the day, if he can play when the ball is rolled out you need to make an effort.

Romar is dangerously close to tarnishing his legacy if it comes out he already threw in the white towel and is just cashing checks.

He needs to pull a rabbit out of the hat in a bad way or this will go down as lesson 101 on how not to leave with dignity.

Seriously embarrassing shit surrounding the men's bball program.

There is no legacy if he is fired after this year. I think Romar is trying to survive next year by piecing together another great class. A middle Pac 12 finish and another good class and Romar is the coach for another year. Then he might make a tourney and will be able to stay until retirement or until the next 3-4 year drought.

Romar is lazy. I'm don't know dick, but there really isn't another answer. He missed out on the big guns and had no realistic fall back plans. Sounds pretty lazy to me. I think now he's actually trying to remedy the situation, but it is likely too late. From 2010-2014, yeah he was essentially cashing checks.

He's not smart enough to be lazy.

His mediocrity isn't some master plan. He's a shitty coach than in his best times still did nothing more than roll the ball out. He's dumb.

 

[DerekJohnson]

I don't consider him dumb, but in my non-expert opinion (I haven't watched much UW basketball in recent years), my belief is that with Bone and Dollar as assistants he had a perfect symbiosis, and was able to maximize the talent. Once those guys left, he didn't hire adequate replacements, and that's why we've had such poor strategizing and fundamentals since then.

 

[SevenEleven]

He never maximized the talent he had. His best teams lost to practically all teams they faced with more talent. With Bone and Dollar he had Nate Robinson, who was an NBA starter and had a decade long career and Roy, who was an NBA All Star and he still couldn't get past the sweet sixteen. If he had maximized that talent, he would have done something significant with it.

 

[HeretoBeatmyChest]

Roman giving the cold shoulder to any top 100 player in the area seems suicidal considering one of the main arguments for keeping him is keeping the local talent at home.

Something about this seems strange all around. Having a dad come to a message board seems like a high maintenance overly involved family presence.

I'm sure it's a headache to recruit, but At the end of the day, if he can play when the ball is rolled out you need to make an effort.

Romar is dangerously close to tarnishing his legacy if it comes out he already threw in the white towel and is just cashing checks.

He needs to pull a rabbit out of the hat in a bad way or this will go down as lesson 101 on how not to leave with dignity.

Seriously embarrassing shit surrounding the men's bball program.

There is no legacy if he is fired after this year. I think Romar is trying to survive next year by piecing together another great class. A middle Pac 12 finish and another good class and Romar is the coach for another year. Then he might make a tourney and will be able to stay until retirement or until the next 3-4 year drought.

Romar is lazy. I'm don't know dick, but there really isn't another answer. He missed out on the big guns and had no realistic fall back plans. Sounds pretty lazy to me. I think now he's actually trying to remedy the situation, but it is likely too late. From 2010-2014, yeah he was essentially cashing checks.

 

[PurpleJ]

If it was Bone and Dollar that made Romar a success, was he ever really a success at all?

 

[dnc]

I don't consider him dumb, but in my non-expert opinion (I haven't watched much UW basketball in recent years), my belief is that with Bone and Dollar as assistants he had a perfect symbiosis, and was able to maximize the talent. Once those guys left, he didn't hire adequate replacements, and that's why we've had such poor strategizing and fundamentals since then.

I completely disagree with this theory. Bone and Dollar were worthless after leaving Romar.

If anyone is responsible for Romar's earlier success it was Nate Robinson, Brandon Roy, Jon Brockman and Isaiah Thomas, not a couple of mediocre assistants.

 

[ThomasFremont]

I don't consider him dumb, but in my non-expert opinion (I haven't watched much UW basketball in recent years), my belief is that with Bone and Dollar as assistants he had a perfect symbiosis, and was able to maximize the talent. Once those guys left, he didn't hire adequate replacements, and that's why we've had such poor strategizing and fundamentals since then.

I completely disagree with this theory. Bone and Dollar were worthless after leaving Romar.

If anyone is responsible for Romar's earlier success it was Nate Robinson, Brandon Roy, Jon Brockman and Isaiah Thomas, not a couple of mediocre assistants.

100% agree.

The top talent carried roll ball, not assistants that went on to do jack shit once they got HC jobs.

 

[DerekJohnson]

I don't consider him dumb, but in my non-expert opinion (I haven't watched much UW basketball in recent years), my belief is that with Bone and Dollar as assistants he had a perfect symbiosis, and was able to maximize the talent. Once those guys left, he didn't hire adequate replacements, and that's why we've had such poor strategizing and fundamentals since then.

I completely disagree with this theory. Bone and Dollar were worthless after leaving Romar.

If anyone is responsible for Romar's earlier success it was Nate Robinson, Brandon Roy, Jon Brockman and Isaiah Thomas, not a couple of mediocre assistants.

Gilby was worthless after leaving Coach James.

 

[dnc]

I don't consider him dumb, but in my non-expert opinion (I haven't watched much UW basketball in recent years), my belief is that with Bone and Dollar as assistants he had a perfect symbiosis, and was able to maximize the talent. Once those guys left, he didn't hire adequate replacements, and that's why we've had such poor strategizing and fundamentals since then.

I completely disagree with this theory. Bone and Dollar were worthless after leaving Romar.

If anyone is responsible for Romar's earlier success it was Nate Robinson, Brandon Roy, Jon Brockman and Isaiah Thomas, not a couple of mediocre assistants.

Gilby was worthless after leaving Coach James.

That's because his only real skill was as an OL coach. He was carried by excellent talent as an OC, but wasn't exposed until he made HC.

He wass a hell of an OL coach though.

 

[DerekJohnson]

I don't consider him dumb, but in my non-expert opinion (I haven't watched much UW basketball in recent years), my belief is that with Bone and Dollar as assistants he had a perfect symbiosis, and was able to maximize the talent. Once those guys left, he didn't hire adequate replacements, and that's why we've had such poor strategizing and fundamentals since then.

I completely disagree with this theory. Bone and Dollar were worthless after leaving Romar.

If anyone is responsible for Romar's earlier success it was Nate Robinson, Brandon Roy, Jon Brockman and Isaiah Thomas, not a couple of mediocre assistants.

Gilby was worthless after leaving Coach James.

That's because his only real skill was as an OL coach. He was carried by excellent talent as an OC, but wasn't exposed until he made HC.

He wass a hell of an OL coach though.

After failing as a head coach, Gilby came back as an OC and helped lead the 2000 Huskies to the Rose Bowl championship, and every player I interviewed on that team gave him massive credit for their success.

 

[dnc]

I don't consider him dumb, but in my non-expert opinion (I haven't watched much UW basketball in recent years), my belief is that with Bone and Dollar as assistants he had a perfect symbiosis, and was able to maximize the talent. Once those guys left, he didn't hire adequate replacements, and that's why we've had such poor strategizing and fundamentals since then.

I completely disagree with this theory. Bone and Dollar were worthless after leaving Romar.

If anyone is responsible for Romar's earlier success it was Nate Robinson, Brandon Roy, Jon Brockman and Isaiah Thomas, not a couple of mediocre assistants.

Gilby was worthless after leaving Coach James.

That's because his only real skill was as an OL coach. He was carried by excellent talent as an OC, but wasn't exposed until he made HC.

He wass a hell of an OL coach though.

After and before failing as a head coach, Gilby came back as an OC and helped lead the 2000 Huskies to the Rose Bowl championship, and every player I interviewed on that team gave him massive credit for their success.

ftfy

I give Gilby massive success for the dominating OL on that team. I give Tui and RN credit for success of the offense though. Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't RN call the plays?

 

[RoadDawg55]

I don't consider him dumb, but in my non-expert opinion (I haven't watched much UW basketball in recent years), my belief is that with Bone and Dollar as assistants he had a perfect symbiosis, and was able to maximize the talent. Once those guys left, he didn't hire adequate replacements, and that's why we've had such poor strategizing and fundamentals since then.

I completely disagree with this theory. Bone and Dollar were worthless after leaving Romar.

If anyone is responsible for Romar's earlier success it was Nate Robinson, Brandon Roy, Jon Brockman and Isaiah Thomas, not a couple of mediocre assistants.

I get it, but just because Bone and Dollar are not huge successes as head coaches, doesn't mean they were mediocre assistants. A lot of good assistants fail as head coaches.

How were they at recruiting? Maybe they contribute to getting anther impact player or two instead of Giles D, Taylor, etc. They were both decent enough to get head coaching jobs. Bone got a PAC 12 job from succeeding at Portland State. That's far from worthless.

 

[ThomasFremont]

I don't consider him dumb, but in my non-expert opinion (I haven't watched much UW basketball in recent years), my belief is that with Bone and Dollar as assistants he had a perfect symbiosis, and was able to maximize the talent. Once those guys left, he didn't hire adequate replacements, and that's why we've had such poor strategizing and fundamentals since then.

I completely disagree with this theory. Bone and Dollar were worthless after leaving Romar.

If anyone is responsible for Romar's earlier success it was Nate Robinson, Brandon Roy, Jon Brockman and Isaiah Thomas, not a couple of mediocre assistants.

I get it, but just because Bone and Dollar are not huge successes as head coaches, doesn't mean they were mediocre assistants. A lot of good assistants fail as head coaches.

How were they at recruiting? Maybe they contribute to getting anther impact player or two instead of Giles D, Taylor, etc. They were both decent enough to get head coaching jobs. Bone got a PAC 12 job from succeeding at Portland State. That's far from worthless.

They don't matter for the same reasons firing Nick Holt didn't matter.

HTH

 

[RoadDawg55]

I don't consider him dumb, but in my non-expert opinion (I haven't watched much UW basketball in recent years), my belief is that with Bone and Dollar as assistants he had a perfect symbiosis, and was able to maximize the talent. Once those guys left, he didn't hire adequate replacements, and that's why we've had such poor strategizing and fundamentals since then.

I completely disagree with this theory. Bone and Dollar were worthless after leaving Romar.

If anyone is responsible for Romar's earlier success it was Nate Robinson, Brandon Roy, Jon Brockman and Isaiah Thomas, not a couple of mediocre assistants.

I get it, but just because Bone and Dollar are not huge successes as head coaches, doesn't mean they were mediocre assistants. A lot of good assistants fail as head coaches.

How were they at recruiting? Maybe they contribute to getting anther impact player or two instead of Giles D, Taylor, etc. They were both decent enough to get head coaching jobs. Bone got a PAC 12 job from succeeding at Portland State. That's far from worthless.

They don't matter for the same reasons firing Nick Holt didn't matter.

HTH

I agree and the head coach is really all that ultimately matters. OTOH, the program probably would have been better with Bone and Dollar than without.

It's not really a valid argument because if you have a successful programs, the assistants are going to get head coaching jobs.

Ultimately there is no excuse for Romar. It's not the assistants, lack of local talent, etc. Those things play a part, but the real reason for the decline is Romar's shitty coaching and program management.

 

[NeedleInTheSky88]

The reason why Romar was successful was because for a 5-7 year period in the mid 2000's, there was as much talent flowing through the greater Seattle area as anywhere else in America. It's not a coincidence that UW's hoops program became really good at the same time when the Seattle area was producing NBA talent on an annual basis.

The Seattle area hasn't really produced much talent since Tony Wroten. The only real name I can think of off the top of my head is Zach Lavine. For a few years Seattle had Martell Webster, Nate Rob, BRoy, Spencer Hawes, Brockman, Aaaron Brooks, Terrence Willliams, etc.

 

[RavennaDawg]

I don't consider him dumb, but in my non-expert opinion (I haven't watched much UW basketball in recent years), my belief is that with Bone and Dollar as assistants he had a perfect symbiosis, and was able to maximize the talent. Once those guys left, he didn't hire adequate replacements, and that's why we've had such poor strategizing and fundamentals since then.

I completely disagree with this theory. Bone and Dollar were worthless after leaving Romar.

If anyone is responsible for Romar's earlier success it was Nate Robinson, Brandon Roy, Jon Brockman and Isaiah Thomas, not a couple of mediocre assistants.

I get it, but just because Bone and Dollar are not huge successes as head coaches, doesn't mean they were mediocre assistants. A lot of good assistants fail as head coaches.

How were they at recruiting? Maybe they contribute to getting anther impact player or two instead of Giles D, Taylor, etc. They were both decent enough to get head coaching jobs. Bone got a PAC 12 job from succeeding at Portland State. That's far from worthless.

 

[Kaepsknee]

Yeah his father actually said they haven't been contacted since the decommit (7-8 days ago). Also stated they got the impression Romar has other players lined up and working on and understands Romar doesn't and really at this point can't be left holding the bag on signing day and has moved on.

We don't like recruiting or signing players other Big 5 schools would actually take. We prefer the WAC and Big sky types. You know, the FIU washouts. We're not going to get caught dead taking someone Arizona may take, or god forbid Oregon.

you end up signing in July the Belgium Ben Devoe.

Now ya know

 

[MisterEm]

Can't trust a big butt and a smile...