A Q for the bored

MikeDamone

MikeDamone

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I read that Sandusky's son is going go on Oprah and tell about how he was abused by Sandusky. It got me thinking... It is known that victims of abuse often become abusers. Would there be any sympathy if any of Sandusky's victims were ever identified as molesters themselves? If Sandusky was a victim of abuse would there be any sympathy for him?

I wonder because obviously child molesters are vilified and we wish nothing but a cruel and painful death for them, and their victims are treated very sympathetically and with great care. When victim turns into victimizer due to the abuse, is sympathy given to the victim negated?

 
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that is a great question and speaks to the need to discern truth rather than to judge it.
 
You forgot to add "asking for a fren."
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I didn't forget...
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But seriously, I feel bad for you if you get molestered. Really bad. I would even offer to shoot the molester, and mean it. However, if you then go molest a child, knowing how it fucked your entire world up, then I have little sympathy for you. And, I would shoot them as well. But, I'm an asshole.
 
But seriously, I feel bad for you if you get molestered. Really bad. I would even offer to shoot the molester, and mean it. However, if you then go molest a child, knowing how it fucked your entire world up, then I have little sympathy for you. And, I would shoot them as well. But, I'm an asshole.
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Then you would go to jail for shooting someone....
 
There isn't anything lower than hurting a child. But if you follow the same path and you know the pain and trauma it causes.....then I hope you DIAFF.

That being said....My Doog quote of the day....I'd rather my 4 year old son showers at Penn State then go to UO.
 
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There isn't anything lower than hurting a child. But if you follow the same path and you know the pain and trauma it causes.....then I hope you DIAFF.

That being said....My Doog quote of the day....I'd rather my 4 year old son showers at Penn State then go to UO.
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So no sympathy if the trauma caused by the molestation caused the victim to become a molester?

What should be done with molestation victims?

I found this in a study

"Among 747 males the risk of being a perpetrator was positively correlated with reported sexual abuse victim experiences. The overall rate of having been a victim was 35% for perpetrators and 11% for non-perpetrators. Of the 96 females, 43% had been victims but only one was a perpetrator. A high percentage of male subjects abused in childhood by a female relative became perpetrators. Having been a victim was a strong predictor of becoming a perpetrator, as was an index of parental loss in childhood."

bjp.rcpsych.org/content/179/6/482.full

 
I'm sure there might be some that have the sentiment "poor kid never stood a chance." Maybe even a grain of truth to it.....but you're older now and you know it's wrong.
There isn't anything lower than hurting a child. But if you follow the same path and you know the pain and trauma it causes.....then I hope you DIAFF.

That being said....My Doog quote of the day....I'd rather my 4 year old son showers at Penn State then go to UO.
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So no sympathy if the trauma caused by the molestation caused the victim to become a molester?

What should be done with molestation victims?

I found this in a study

"Among 747 males the risk of being a perpetrator was positively correlated with reported sexual abuse victim experiences. The overall rate of having been a victim was 35% for perpetrators and 11% for non-perpetrators. Of the 96 females, 43% had been victims but only one was a perpetrator. A high percentage of male subjects abused in childhood by a female relative became perpetrators. Having been a victim was a strong predictor of becoming a perpetrator, as was an index of parental loss in childhood."

bjp.rcpsych.org/content/179/6/482.full
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What about HH members who are abused by other poasters and then become abusive poasters themselves? Do you feel any sympathy for them?
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No. They should be shot.
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Does this mean they are less valuable than rhinos? Or are you saying that some of them need to be shot in order to ensure that a healthy herd of abusive posters survives?
 
But seriously, I feel bad for you if you get molestered. Really bad. I would even offer to shoot the molester, and mean it. However, if you then go molest a child, knowing how it fucked your entire world up, then I have little sympathy for you. And, I would shoot them as well. But, I'm an asshole.
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Then you would go to jail for shooting someone....
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I would invoke the "Stand Your Ground Law," whether it existed in that State or not.
 
But seriously, I feel bad for you if you get molestered. Really bad. I would even offer to shoot the molester, and mean it. However, if you then go molest a child, knowing how it fucked your entire world up, then I have little sympathy for you. And, I would shoot them as well. But, I'm an asshole.
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Sounds perfectly reasonable to me.

Every motherfucker can find an excuse if they need one, and they look hard enough.
 
But seriously, I feel bad for you if you get molestered. Really bad. I would even offer to shoot the molester, and mean it. However, if you then go molest a child, knowing how it fucked your entire world up, then I have little sympathy for you. And, I would shoot them as well. But, I'm an asshole.
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Then you would go to jail for shooting someone....
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If he shot someone (and then went to jail)... will the shooting victim have a higher chance of becoming a shooter? And if so, if caught, would that victim, turned shooter, get some sympathy for first being a shooting victim?

Almost reminds me of one of the secular theories behind the idea of original sin.
 
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But seriously, I feel bad for you if you get molestered. Really bad. I would even offer to shoot the molester, and mean it. However, if you then go molest a child, knowing how it fucked your entire world up, then I have little sympathy for you. And, I would shoot them as well. But, I'm an asshole.
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Sounds perfectly reasonable to me.

Every motherfucker can find an excuse if they need one, and they look hard enough.
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Explaining why someone did something and feeling bad for them doesn't excuse it. You need to learn the difference.
 
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