9 Black People Gunned Down at Bible Study, Obvious Hate Crime

[AZDuck]

The people arguing for guns always remind me of religious people. It's funny how all arguments sound the same when you've made up your mind first and come up with the argument second.

Just admit you love guns and that's all that matters.

I like guns just fine. Use them to shoot deer every season since I was a boy with both Dads in a blind. But, this has much less to do with "loving" guns, and much more to do with believing in liberty, and the governments desire to restrict my ability to protect myself from that same government.

It always amuses me that when you tell people (liberals mostly) you want guns to potentially defend yourself from jack booted government thugs, they look at you like you have two heads and are some kind of crazy domestic terrorist. Um, that is precisely what most of the guys on those bills we don't use anymore did. The redcoats were the ATF/FBI/whatever of their day. When what we now call patriots took up arms against them, because of a fundamental belief in liberty and self governance, they were committing domestic terrorism. Thank God they got to that arsenal in Lexington before the redcoats, or the revolution would have been over before it started. The limeys realized, correctly, they better steal the weapons first. The patriots realized, correctly, the only way to defend yourself in any meaningful way was to have them.

Do I think any of this happens in my lifetime? No, at least I certainly hope not. But, I believe in gun rights because I have no idea what might happen in a hundred years, and I want your great grandkids and any of my illegitimate grandkids to at least have to means to defend themselves and liberty from an overzealous government, or a common intruder, or a fucking Skynet activated robot army. Also, venison tastes good and everyone should shoot a deer and figure this out at least once in their life.

There's a lot here I agree with.

My view is that the onus is on advocates of firearm ownership to demonstrate how they can make it reasonably safe. I don't think it is acceptable for us to have our churches, schools and movie theaters shot up on the regular because 2d Amendment worshippers refuse to countenance any restrictions on their fetish.

At the same time, I also think a lot of pro-gun-control liberals are FS because they want to ban guns that are scary-looking rather than take a more reasonable approach.

I think that some sort of mandatory training and licensing, along with serial number registration could enable the government to better regulate the firearm market without impinging on anyone's 2d Amendment liberties, and that regime could also filter out many, if not most of the yahoos who want to shoot up a movie theater or a kindergarten. Will mass-shootings still happen? Yes, but maybe not every 6 weeks or so. It would be progress. Progress is good.

And I like my gun, so I'd like to keep it.

As an actual duck, I think you should be more pro strict gun control.

Huh?

 

[RaceBannon]

There's no controversy on this one.

Dude is a racist asshole who deserves the chair.

Sure. But every time one of these things happens, I ask - why the fuck can't we regulate firearms in this country?

I don't like living in a world where you need to pack heat at bible study

If they would've had a sign out front that specifically said "No Firearms Allowed." This never would've happened. Because you know......criminals follow the law

Speaking of...built my AR lower yesterday. Halfway done.

By that logic, we should have no laws since criminals just ignore them...

That is the libertarian logic on booze, drugs, and sex workers. Making a desired good illegal only increases the cost and the criminal activity around it. I mean prohibition worked great!

So our crack and meth dealers can run guns too and continue to kill each other at an alarming rate. you do realize most gun deaths are due to the idiotic idea of making drugs a street industry.

Logic can be your friend. Less laws are exactly what we need

 

[ThomasFremont]

The people arguing for guns always remind me of religious people. It's funny how all arguments sound the same when you've made up your mind first and come up with the argument second.

Just admit you love guns and that's all that matters.

I like guns just fine. Use them to shoot deer every season since I was a boy with both Dads in a blind. But, this has much less to do with "loving" guns, and much more to do with believing in liberty, and the governments desire to restrict my ability to protect myself from that same government.

It always amuses me that when you tell people (liberals mostly) you want guns to potentially defend yourself from jack booted government thugs, they look at you like you have two heads and are some kind of crazy domestic terrorist. Um, that is precisely what most of the guys on those bills we don't use anymore did. The redcoats were the ATF/FBI/whatever of their day. When what we now call patriots took up arms against them, because of a fundamental belief in liberty and self governance, they were committing domestic terrorism. Thank God they got to that arsenal in Lexington before the redcoats, or the revolution would have been over before it started. The limeys realized, correctly, they better steal the weapons first. The patriots realized, correctly, the only way to defend yourself in any meaningful way was to have them.

Do I think any of this happens in my lifetime? No, at least I certainly hope not. But, I believe in gun rights because I have no idea what might happen in a hundred years, and I want your great grandkids and any of my illegitimate grandkids to at least have to means to defend themselves and liberty from an overzealous government, or a common intruder, or a fucking Skynet activated robot army. Also, venison tastes good and everyone should shoot a deer and figure this out at least once in their life.

While this sounds nice, the Revolution wasn't won because we got to the guns at Lexington or Ticonderoga (sure it helped). It was won because of the Atlantic Ocean, time, attrition, the sagging economy of a war weary England, and the French.

But if you want to oversimplify a major historical event into a single issue, that's your right!

I'm a little disappointed that a fellow VC who spent time with me in the jungles of Cuba before we stormed the casinos would so easily down play even small weapons in the hands of anti government forces.

Like the US in VietNam, the paper cuts added up to enough death to make the government back across the ocean say fuck it

We don't win the revolution without guns

The VC didn't win Vietnam with their small arms.

HTH

 

[AZDuck]

There's no controversy on this one.

Dude is a racist asshole who deserves the chair.

Sure. But every time one of these things happens, I ask - why the fuck can't we regulate firearms in this country?

I don't like living in a world where you need to pack heat at bible study

If they would've had a sign out front that specifically said "No Firearms Allowed." This never would've happened. Because you know......criminals follow the law

Speaking of...built my AR lower yesterday. Halfway done.

By that logic, we should have no laws since criminals just ignore them...

That is the libertarian logic on booze, drugs, and sex workers. Making a desired good illegal only increases the cost and the criminal activity around it. I mean prohibition worked great!

So our crack and meth dealers can run guns too and continue to kill each other at an alarming rate. you do realize most gun deaths are due to the idiotic idea of making drugs a street industry.

Logic can be your friend. Less laws are exactly what we need

I think booze, drugs, and sex workers should all be legal and regulated. Just like guns.

Regulation =/= Prohibition

 

[RaceBannon]

And yet only guns are, hence my point that you ignored. 9 dead Blacks is a very slow Saturday in Chicago.

Yet guns are heavily regulated. Let's address reality not political point making

 

[RaceBannon]

The people arguing for guns always remind me of religious people. It's funny how all arguments sound the same when you've made up your mind first and come up with the argument second.

Just admit you love guns and that's all that matters.

I like guns just fine. Use them to shoot deer every season since I was a boy with both Dads in a blind. But, this has much less to do with "loving" guns, and much more to do with believing in liberty, and the governments desire to restrict my ability to protect myself from that same government.

It always amuses me that when you tell people (liberals mostly) you want guns to potentially defend yourself from jack booted government thugs, they look at you like you have two heads and are some kind of crazy domestic terrorist. Um, that is precisely what most of the guys on those bills we don't use anymore did. The redcoats were the ATF/FBI/whatever of their day. When what we now call patriots took up arms against them, because of a fundamental belief in liberty and self governance, they were committing domestic terrorism. Thank God they got to that arsenal in Lexington before the redcoats, or the revolution would have been over before it started. The limeys realized, correctly, they better steal the weapons first. The patriots realized, correctly, the only way to defend yourself in any meaningful way was to have them.

Do I think any of this happens in my lifetime? No, at least I certainly hope not. But, I believe in gun rights because I have no idea what might happen in a hundred years, and I want your great grandkids and any of my illegitimate grandkids to at least have to means to defend themselves and liberty from an overzealous government, or a common intruder, or a fucking Skynet activated robot army. Also, venison tastes good and everyone should shoot a deer and figure this out at least once in their life.

While this sounds nice, the Revolution wasn't won because we got to the guns at Lexington or Ticonderoga (sure it helped). It was won because of the Atlantic Ocean, time, attrition, the sagging economy of a war weary England, and the French.

But if you want to oversimplify a major historical event into a single issue, that's your right!

I'm a little disappointed that a fellow VC who spent time with me in the jungles of Cuba before we stormed the casinos would so easily down play even small weapons in the hands of anti government forces.

Like the US in VietNam, the paper cuts added up to enough death to make the government back across the ocean say fuck it

We don't win the revolution without guns

The VC didn't win Vietnam with their small arms.

HTH

They are known for having small arms. They are a small people to begin with.

The US crushed the NVA every time they met. Conventional battle went as well for the slopes as it did for the US rebels.

The VC used small arms and terror tactics to kill the will to fight. Too many US casualties for too little to gain

 

[AZDuck]

And yet only guns are, hence my point that you ignored. 9 dead Blacks is a very slow Saturday in Chicago.

Yet guns are heavily regulated. Let's address reality not political point making

Um, no. I don't think that guns are heavily regulated at all.

Guess how many firearm deaths there were in Honolulu last year?

The O/U is 5

 

[RaceBannon]

guns are heavily regulated in Chicago and NYC for that matter

fuck the island. NOGAF

Guess how many firearm deaths in Chicago last month?

 

[AZDuck]

guns are heavily regulated in Chicago and NYC for that matter

fuck the island. NOGAF

Guess how many firearm deaths in Chicago last month?

C'mon Race, read the thread.

How many checkpoints are there between the Wisconsin or Indiana borders and Chicago?

zero-point-zero

 

[ThomasFremont]

The people arguing for guns always remind me of religious people. It's funny how all arguments sound the same when you've made up your mind first and come up with the argument second.

Just admit you love guns and that's all that matters.

I like guns just fine. Use them to shoot deer every season since I was a boy with both Dads in a blind. But, this has much less to do with "loving" guns, and much more to do with believing in liberty, and the governments desire to restrict my ability to protect myself from that same government.

It always amuses me that when you tell people (liberals mostly) you want guns to potentially defend yourself from jack booted government thugs, they look at you like you have two heads and are some kind of crazy domestic terrorist. Um, that is precisely what most of the guys on those bills we don't use anymore did. The redcoats were the ATF/FBI/whatever of their day. When what we now call patriots took up arms against them, because of a fundamental belief in liberty and self governance, they were committing domestic terrorism. Thank God they got to that arsenal in Lexington before the redcoats, or the revolution would have been over before it started. The limeys realized, correctly, they better steal the weapons first. The patriots realized, correctly, the only way to defend yourself in any meaningful way was to have them.

Do I think any of this happens in my lifetime? No, at least I certainly hope not. But, I believe in gun rights because I have no idea what might happen in a hundred years, and I want your great grandkids and any of my illegitimate grandkids to at least have to means to defend themselves and liberty from an overzealous government, or a common intruder, or a fucking Skynet activated robot army. Also, venison tastes good and everyone should shoot a deer and figure this out at least once in their life.

While this sounds nice, the Revolution wasn't won because we got to the guns at Lexington or Ticonderoga (sure it helped). It was won because of the Atlantic Ocean, time, attrition, the sagging economy of a war weary England, and the French.

But if you want to oversimplify a major historical event into a single issue, that's your right!

I'm a little disappointed that a fellow VC who spent time with me in the jungles of Cuba before we stormed the casinos would so easily down play even small weapons in the hands of anti government forces.

Like the US in VietNam, the paper cuts added up to enough death to make the government back across the ocean say fuck it

We don't win the revolution without guns

The VC didn't win Vietnam with their small arms.

HTH

They are known for having small arms. They are a small people to begin with.

The US crushed the NVA every time they met. Conventional battle went as well for the slopes as it did for the US rebels.

The VC used small arms and terror tactics to kill the will to fight. Too many US casualties for too little to gain

Ya think?

The VC still had their small arms when their northern "brothers" took over and "re-educated" all of them.

A whole lotta good their small arms did then.

We done here, or you want to keep going?

 

[OZONE]

I'm glad that nobody so far except Blackie thinks that people have the right to own anti aircraft weapons... as a flying boat owner... I don't want to have to worry about crazies shooting me down in a fit of rage.

 

[RaceBannon]

guns are heavily regulated in Chicago and NYC for that matter

fuck the island. NOGAF

Guess how many firearm deaths in Chicago last month?

C'mon Race, read the thread.

How many checkpoints are there between the Wisconsin or Indiana borders and Chicago?

zero-point-zero

So you want a national ban on guns

#Blackieisright

These street gangs are getting their guns from Indiana? Along with gay wedding cakes?

Heavily regulated areas have high homicide rates.

Again - unless you want to be honest about what you want you're just playing to the low info voter. (hi Hondo!)

 

[RaceBannon]

The people arguing for guns always remind me of religious people. It's funny how all arguments sound the same when you've made up your mind first and come up with the argument second.

Just admit you love guns and that's all that matters.

I like guns just fine. Use them to shoot deer every season since I was a boy with both Dads in a blind. But, this has much less to do with "loving" guns, and much more to do with believing in liberty, and the governments desire to restrict my ability to protect myself from that same government.

It always amuses me that when you tell people (liberals mostly) you want guns to potentially defend yourself from jack booted government thugs, they look at you like you have two heads and are some kind of crazy domestic terrorist. Um, that is precisely what most of the guys on those bills we don't use anymore did. The redcoats were the ATF/FBI/whatever of their day. When what we now call patriots took up arms against them, because of a fundamental belief in liberty and self governance, they were committing domestic terrorism. Thank God they got to that arsenal in Lexington before the redcoats, or the revolution would have been over before it started. The limeys realized, correctly, they better steal the weapons first. The patriots realized, correctly, the only way to defend yourself in any meaningful way was to have them.

Do I think any of this happens in my lifetime? No, at least I certainly hope not. But, I believe in gun rights because I have no idea what might happen in a hundred years, and I want your great grandkids and any of my illegitimate grandkids to at least have to means to defend themselves and liberty from an overzealous government, or a common intruder, or a fucking Skynet activated robot army. Also, venison tastes good and everyone should shoot a deer and figure this out at least once in their life.

While this sounds nice, the Revolution wasn't won because we got to the guns at Lexington or Ticonderoga (sure it helped). It was won because of the Atlantic Ocean, time, attrition, the sagging economy of a war weary England, and the French.

But if you want to oversimplify a major historical event into a single issue, that's your right!

I'm a little disappointed that a fellow VC who spent time with me in the jungles of Cuba before we stormed the casinos would so easily down play even small weapons in the hands of anti government forces.

Like the US in VietNam, the paper cuts added up to enough death to make the government back across the ocean say fuck it

We don't win the revolution without guns

The VC didn't win Vietnam with their small arms.

HTH

They are known for having small arms. They are a small people to begin with.

The US crushed the NVA every time they met. Conventional battle went as well for the slopes as it did for the US rebels.

The VC used small arms and terror tactics to kill the will to fight. Too many US casualties for too little to gain

Ya think?

The VC still had their small arms when their northern "brothers" took over and "re-educated" all of them.

A whole lotta good their small arms did then.

We done here, or you want to keep going?

Of course I think - that's why I said it and you now agree. The VC weren't re educated. You're pressing now.

Remember, I was there

#FakeWarriors

 

[AZDuck]

I'm glad that nobody so far except Blackie thinks that people have the right to own anti aircraft weapons... as a flying boat owner... I don't want to have to worry about crazies shooting me down in a fit of rage.

It would be wrong to put a flying boat in this picture

 

[ThomasFremont]

The people arguing for guns always remind me of religious people. It's funny how all arguments sound the same when you've made up your mind first and come up with the argument second.

Just admit you love guns and that's all that matters.

I like guns just fine. Use them to shoot deer every season since I was a boy with both Dads in a blind. But, this has much less to do with "loving" guns, and much more to do with believing in liberty, and the governments desire to restrict my ability to protect myself from that same government.

It always amuses me that when you tell people (liberals mostly) you want guns to potentially defend yourself from jack booted government thugs, they look at you like you have two heads and are some kind of crazy domestic terrorist. Um, that is precisely what most of the guys on those bills we don't use anymore did. The redcoats were the ATF/FBI/whatever of their day. When what we now call patriots took up arms against them, because of a fundamental belief in liberty and self governance, they were committing domestic terrorism. Thank God they got to that arsenal in Lexington before the redcoats, or the revolution would have been over before it started. The limeys realized, correctly, they better steal the weapons first. The patriots realized, correctly, the only way to defend yourself in any meaningful way was to have them.

Do I think any of this happens in my lifetime? No, at least I certainly hope not. But, I believe in gun rights because I have no idea what might happen in a hundred years, and I want your great grandkids and any of my illegitimate grandkids to at least have to means to defend themselves and liberty from an overzealous government, or a common intruder, or a fucking Skynet activated robot army. Also, venison tastes good and everyone should shoot a deer and figure this out at least once in their life.

While this sounds nice, the Revolution wasn't won because we got to the guns at Lexington or Ticonderoga (sure it helped). It was won because of the Atlantic Ocean, time, attrition, the sagging economy of a war weary England, and the French.

But if you want to oversimplify a major historical event into a single issue, that's your right!

I'm a little disappointed that a fellow VC who spent time with me in the jungles of Cuba before we stormed the casinos would so easily down play even small weapons in the hands of anti government forces.

Like the US in VietNam, the paper cuts added up to enough death to make the government back across the ocean say fuck it

We don't win the revolution without guns

The VC didn't win Vietnam with their small arms.

HTH

They are known for having small arms. They are a small people to begin with.

The US crushed the NVA every time they met. Conventional battle went as well for the slopes as it did for the US rebels.

The VC used small arms and terror tactics to kill the will to fight. Too many US casualties for too little to gain

Ya think?

The VC still had their small arms when their northern "brothers" took over and "re-educated" all of them.

A whole lotta good their small arms did then.

We done here, or you want to keep going?

Of course I think - that's why I said it and you now agree. The VC weren't re educated. You're pressing now.

Remember, I was there

#FakeWarriors

Yes they were. The VC were nationalists, not communists. The commies from Hanoi came in and took over after we left. They didn't compromise or share.

You're losing yourself in my wheelhouse.

Step away.

 

[AZDuck]

The people arguing for guns always remind me of religious people. It's funny how all arguments sound the same when you've made up your mind first and come up with the argument second.

Just admit you love guns and that's all that matters.

I like guns just fine. Use them to shoot deer every season since I was a boy with both Dads in a blind. But, this has much less to do with "loving" guns, and much more to do with believing in liberty, and the governments desire to restrict my ability to protect myself from that same government.

It always amuses me that when you tell people (liberals mostly) you want guns to potentially defend yourself from jack booted government thugs, they look at you like you have two heads and are some kind of crazy domestic terrorist. Um, that is precisely what most of the guys on those bills we don't use anymore did. The redcoats were the ATF/FBI/whatever of their day. When what we now call patriots took up arms against them, because of a fundamental belief in liberty and self governance, they were committing domestic terrorism. Thank God they got to that arsenal in Lexington before the redcoats, or the revolution would have been over before it started. The limeys realized, correctly, they better steal the weapons first. The patriots realized, correctly, the only way to defend yourself in any meaningful way was to have them.

Do I think any of this happens in my lifetime? No, at least I certainly hope not. But, I believe in gun rights because I have no idea what might happen in a hundred years, and I want your great grandkids and any of my illegitimate grandkids to at least have to means to defend themselves and liberty from an overzealous government, or a common intruder, or a fucking Skynet activated robot army. Also, venison tastes good and everyone should shoot a deer and figure this out at least once in their life.

While this sounds nice, the Revolution wasn't won because we got to the guns at Lexington or Ticonderoga (sure it helped). It was won because of the Atlantic Ocean, time, attrition, the sagging economy of a war weary England, and the French.

But if you want to oversimplify a major historical event into a single issue, that's your right!

I'm a little disappointed that a fellow VC who spent time with me in the jungles of Cuba before we stormed the casinos would so easily down play even small weapons in the hands of anti government forces.

Like the US in VietNam, the paper cuts added up to enough death to make the government back across the ocean say fuck it

We don't win the revolution without guns

The VC didn't win Vietnam with their small arms.

HTH

They are known for having small arms. They are a small people to begin with.

The US crushed the NVA every time they met. Conventional battle went as well for the slopes as it did for the US rebels.

The VC used small arms and terror tactics to kill the will to fight. Too many US casualties for too little to gain

Ya think?

The VC still had their small arms when their northern "brothers" took over and "re-educated" all of them.

A whole lotta good their small arms did then.

We done here, or you want to keep going?

Of course I think - that's why I said it and you now agree. The VC weren't re educated. You're pressing now.

Remember, I was there

#FakeWarriors

Yes they were. The VC were nationalists, not communists. The commies from Hanoi came in and took over after we left. They didn't compromise or share.

You're losing yourself in my wheelhouse.

Step away.

 

[RaceBannon]

The people arguing for guns always remind me of religious people. It's funny how all arguments sound the same when you've made up your mind first and come up with the argument second.

Just admit you love guns and that's all that matters.

I like guns just fine. Use them to shoot deer every season since I was a boy with both Dads in a blind. But, this has much less to do with "loving" guns, and much more to do with believing in liberty, and the governments desire to restrict my ability to protect myself from that same government.

It always amuses me that when you tell people (liberals mostly) you want guns to potentially defend yourself from jack booted government thugs, they look at you like you have two heads and are some kind of crazy domestic terrorist. Um, that is precisely what most of the guys on those bills we don't use anymore did. The redcoats were the ATF/FBI/whatever of their day. When what we now call patriots took up arms against them, because of a fundamental belief in liberty and self governance, they were committing domestic terrorism. Thank God they got to that arsenal in Lexington before the redcoats, or the revolution would have been over before it started. The limeys realized, correctly, they better steal the weapons first. The patriots realized, correctly, the only way to defend yourself in any meaningful way was to have them.

Do I think any of this happens in my lifetime? No, at least I certainly hope not. But, I believe in gun rights because I have no idea what might happen in a hundred years, and I want your great grandkids and any of my illegitimate grandkids to at least have to means to defend themselves and liberty from an overzealous government, or a common intruder, or a fucking Skynet activated robot army. Also, venison tastes good and everyone should shoot a deer and figure this out at least once in their life.

While this sounds nice, the Revolution wasn't won because we got to the guns at Lexington or Ticonderoga (sure it helped). It was won because of the Atlantic Ocean, time, attrition, the sagging economy of a war weary England, and the French.

But if you want to oversimplify a major historical event into a single issue, that's your right!

I'm a little disappointed that a fellow VC who spent time with me in the jungles of Cuba before we stormed the casinos would so easily down play even small weapons in the hands of anti government forces.

Like the US in VietNam, the paper cuts added up to enough death to make the government back across the ocean say fuck it

We don't win the revolution without guns

The VC didn't win Vietnam with their small arms.

HTH

They are known for having small arms. They are a small people to begin with.

The US crushed the NVA every time they met. Conventional battle went as well for the slopes as it did for the US rebels.

The VC used small arms and terror tactics to kill the will to fight. Too many US casualties for too little to gain

Ya think?

The VC still had their small arms when their northern "brothers" took over and "re-educated" all of them.

A whole lotta good their small arms did then.

We done here, or you want to keep going?

Of course I think - that's why I said it and you now agree. The VC weren't re educated. You're pressing now.

Remember, I was there

#FakeWarriors

Yes they were. The VC were nationalists, not communists. The commies from Hanoi came in and took over after we left. They didn't compromise or share.

You're losing yourself in my wheelhouse.

Step away.

You're wheelhouse is out of a book. While I wasn't there (really?) it was current events. The VC were nationalists. How cute.

So was Ho. A nationalist commie.

Was is true in both Cuba and VN is that the new boss was well aware of the danger of individual gun ownership. Hence the disarming of the citizens.

Just like you commies want to do here!!!1111!!!!

 

[ThomasFremont]

The people arguing for guns always remind me of religious people. It's funny how all arguments sound the same when you've made up your mind first and come up with the argument second.

Just admit you love guns and that's all that matters.

I like guns just fine. Use them to shoot deer every season since I was a boy with both Dads in a blind. But, this has much less to do with "loving" guns, and much more to do with believing in liberty, and the governments desire to restrict my ability to protect myself from that same government.

It always amuses me that when you tell people (liberals mostly) you want guns to potentially defend yourself from jack booted government thugs, they look at you like you have two heads and are some kind of crazy domestic terrorist. Um, that is precisely what most of the guys on those bills we don't use anymore did. The redcoats were the ATF/FBI/whatever of their day. When what we now call patriots took up arms against them, because of a fundamental belief in liberty and self governance, they were committing domestic terrorism. Thank God they got to that arsenal in Lexington before the redcoats, or the revolution would have been over before it started. The limeys realized, correctly, they better steal the weapons first. The patriots realized, correctly, the only way to defend yourself in any meaningful way was to have them.

Do I think any of this happens in my lifetime? No, at least I certainly hope not. But, I believe in gun rights because I have no idea what might happen in a hundred years, and I want your great grandkids and any of my illegitimate grandkids to at least have to means to defend themselves and liberty from an overzealous government, or a common intruder, or a fucking Skynet activated robot army. Also, venison tastes good and everyone should shoot a deer and figure this out at least once in their life.

While this sounds nice, the Revolution wasn't won because we got to the guns at Lexington or Ticonderoga (sure it helped). It was won because of the Atlantic Ocean, time, attrition, the sagging economy of a war weary England, and the French.

But if you want to oversimplify a major historical event into a single issue, that's your right!

I'm a little disappointed that a fellow VC who spent time with me in the jungles of Cuba before we stormed the casinos would so easily down play even small weapons in the hands of anti government forces.

Like the US in VietNam, the paper cuts added up to enough death to make the government back across the ocean say fuck it

We don't win the revolution without guns

The VC didn't win Vietnam with their small arms.

HTH

They are known for having small arms. They are a small people to begin with.

The US crushed the NVA every time they met. Conventional battle went as well for the slopes as it did for the US rebels.

The VC used small arms and terror tactics to kill the will to fight. Too many US casualties for too little to gain

Ya think?

The VC still had their small arms when their northern "brothers" took over and "re-educated" all of them.

A whole lotta good their small arms did then.

We done here, or you want to keep going?

Of course I think - that's why I said it and you now agree. The VC weren't re educated. You're pressing now.

Remember, I was there

#FakeWarriors

Yes they were. The VC were nationalists, not communists. The commies from Hanoi came in and took over after we left. They didn't compromise or share.

You're losing yourself in my wheelhouse.

Step away.

You're wheelhouse is out of a book. While I wasn't there (really?) it was current events. The VC were nationalists. How cute.

So was Ho. A nationalist commie.

Was is true in both Cuba and VN is that the new boss was well aware of the danger of individual gun ownership. Hence the disarming of the citizens.

Just like you commies want to do here!!!1111!!!!

My books>>>>>your drum circles.

BTW, I never said I was against guns. I'm not. But you guys are abusing historical examples to support your position.

I will not abide that, dude.

 

[RaceBannon]

I won

 

[topdawgnc]

I won

Have you ever lost?