2020 Class Prediction

[insinceredawg]

Total scores for various scenarios:

Banks, Smalls, Hector[/b], Carlton, Overman - 261.85
Banks, Smalls, Jackson[/b], Carlton, Overman - 259.56
Banks, Smalls, Hector, Carlton, Overman, Jackson - 262.54

 

[DoogCourics]

After adding Smalls, Banks, Hector, Carlton, and Overman to our class our total score jumps up to 261.85. That is slightly higher than last year (259.19) and would have put us at #14 last year. And this is before any re-rankings. I fully expect some of our lower rated recruits (Smith, Bruener, West) to get bumped up before it's all said and done.

Speaking of which, I decided to look at the 247 rankings rather than composite since I haven’t in awhile.....



For all the talk and media hype about how Oregon is killing it in recruiting:

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[UWhuskytskeet]

I didn't think we'd have less 4*s on 247 than the composite.

 

[insinceredawg]

After adding Smalls, Banks, Hector, Carlton, and Overman to our class our total score jumps up to 261.85. That is slightly higher than last year (259.19) and would have put us at #14 last year. And this is before any re-rankings. I fully expect some of our lower rated recruits (Smith, Bruener, West) to get bumped up before it's all said and done.

Speaking of which, I decided to look at the 247 rankings rather than composite since I haven’t in awhile.....

View attachment 22260

For all the talk and media hype about how Oregon is killing it in recruiting:

View attachment 21397

Is there a way to get to the 247 only rankings other than typing in the URL? I can't find a link anywhere on their site.

 

[DoogCourics]

After adding Smalls, Banks, Hector, Carlton, and Overman to our class our total score jumps up to 261.85. That is slightly higher than last year (259.19) and would have put us at #14 last year. And this is before any re-rankings. I fully expect some of our lower rated recruits (Smith, Bruener, West) to get bumped up before it's all said and done.

Speaking of which, I decided to look at the 247 rankings rather than composite since I haven’t in awhile.....

View attachment 22260

For all the talk and media hype about how Oregon is killing it in recruiting:

View attachment 21397

Is there a way to get to the 247 only rankings other than typing in the URL? I can't find a link anywhere on their site.

View attachment 20831

Unfortunately 247 killed that functionality two years ago. Just go to team rankings then delete “composite” from the url and click enter

What pisses me off most is that you can’t do the class calculator in anything but composite.

 

[DoogCourics]

I didn't think we'd have less 4*s on 247 than the composite.

Agreed. But, Huffman/Angulo/Biggins have all said that a handful of the guys we have will be getting bumps in the 247 rankings before it's over. They're just waiting on the senior tape.

 

[guntlove]

After adding Smalls, Banks, Hector, Carlton, and Overman to our class our total score jumps up to 261.85. That is slightly higher than last year (259.19) and would have put us at #14 last year. And this is before any re-rankings. I fully expect some of our lower rated recruits (Smith, Bruener, West) to get bumped up before it's all said and done.

Speaking of which, I decided to look at the 247 rankings rather than composite since I haven’t in awhile.....

View attachment 22260

For all the talk and media hype about how Oregon is killing it in recruiting:

View attachment 21397

Is there a way to get to the 247 only rankings other than typing in the URL? I can't find a link anywhere on their site.

View attachment 20831

Unfortunately 247 killed that functionality two years ago. Just go to team rankings then delete “composite” from the url and click enter

What pisses me off most is that you can’t do the class calculator in anything but composite.

Cheers Courics.

gunt.

 

[CFetters_Nacho_Lover]

After adding Smalls, Banks, Hector, Carlton, and Overman to our class our total score jumps up to 261.85. That is slightly higher than last year (259.19) and would have put us at #14 last year. And this is before any re-rankings. I fully expect some of our lower rated recruits (Smith, Bruener, West) to get bumped up before it's all said and done.

Speaking of which, I decided to look at the 247 rankings rather than composite since I haven’t in awhile.....

View attachment 22260

For all the talk and media hype about how Oregon is killing it in recruiting:

View attachment 21397

Is there a way to get to the 247 only rankings other than typing in the URL? I can't find a link anywhere on their site.

@DoogCourics and I just expressed our love via DM when I asked how he was getting the 247 only rankings.

 

[insinceredawg]

After adding Smalls, Banks, Hector, Carlton, and Overman to our class our total score jumps up to 261.85. That is slightly higher than last year (259.19) and would have put us at #14 last year. And this is before any re-rankings. I fully expect some of our lower rated recruits (Smith, Bruener, West) to get bumped up before it's all said and done.

Speaking of which, I decided to look at the 247 rankings rather than composite since I haven’t in awhile.....

View attachment 22260

For all the talk and media hype about how Oregon is killing it in recruiting:

View attachment 21397

Is there a way to get to the 247 only rankings other than typing in the URL? I can't find a link anywhere on their site.

View attachment 20831

Unfortunately 247 killed that functionality two years ago. Just go to team rankings then delete “composite” from the url and click enter

What pisses me off most is that you can’t do the class calculator in anything but composite.

So fucktarded that they bury their own rankings like this to promote their "proprietary algorithm" instead. If ESPN had a legit recruiting service it'd make more sense but everyone knows their rankings are bullshit.

 

[insinceredawg]

I didn't think we'd have less 4*s on 247 than the composite.

Garbers and Redman are 3* on 247. The trend in the past have been the other way around where our guys had 4* on 247 but dropped to 3* in composite due to ESPN rankings (Cam Williams, Jackson Sirmon).

 

[bananasnblondes]

I didn't think we'd have less 4*s on 247 than the composite.

Garbers and Redman are 3* on 247. The trend in the past have been the other way around where our guys had 4* on 247 but dropped to 3* in composite due to ESPN rankings (Cam Williams, Jackson Sirmon).

Yeah, Gaard is also ranked ridiculously low on 247

 

[DoogCourics]

Fuck his rankings. Gaard is going to massacre opposing linemen this season.

Pray for the HS DLinemen of Idaho.

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[jhfstyle24]

I didn't think we'd have less 4*s on 247 than the composite.

Garbers and Redman are 3* on 247. The trend in the past have been the other way around where our guys had 4* on 247 but dropped to 3* in composite due to ESPN rankings (Cam Williams, Jackson Sirmon).

Yeah, Gaard is also ranked ridiculously low on 247

That's one of the things where rankings don't fucking matter. The dude slaughters people, has every measurable in the book, and has like 30 fucking offers.

One of the gripes with recruiting services in pretty much every recruitable sport is the lack of focus on lesser recruited areas or classifications. The Washington services all want to look at 3a and 4a (for good reason, that's where the best players are). The flip side is that lower classification guys get ignored. That's not to say the levels of talent in, say, 1a baseball are close to 4a, but the 1a guys actually get completely ignored even when there are legitimate division 1 caliber guys there. The only saving grace is showcases that cost a shit ton.

It's similar with the national recruiting services lile 247 or ESPN. 247 is much better about it, but the focus is still on the areas with more talent, similar to the focus on higher classifications. So Idaho, which is basically a 1a football state in this comparison, gets essentially ignored. There may be legit high 4* caliber guys like Gaard, but the focus isn't there, so often they are rated far too low.

And, similar to the Washington recruiting comparison, that isn't to say that the recruiting services are necessarily wrong to focus on California and Texas over Idaho. The talent levels aren't close and the ratings are actually often a very good guide for how teams in CFB will do.

But it still remains very possible for a guy like Gaard to slip through the cracks. I'm not saying that recruiting services don't matter. They do! Ratings are overall very important on a full class basis in terms of average. It's simply that there will be misses that seem obvious in retrospect.

Taylor Rapp and Trey Adams are obvious examples.

Edit: TL;DR Gaard is good

 

[FireCohen]

I didn't think we'd have less 4*s on 247 than the composite.

Garbers and Redman are 3* on 247. The trend in the past have been the other way around where our guys had 4* on 247 but dropped to 3* in composite due to ESPN rankings (Cam Williams, Jackson Sirmon).

Yeah, Gaard is also ranked ridiculously low on 247

That's one of the things where rankings don't fucking matter. The dude slaughters people, has every measurable in the book, and has like 30 fucking offers.

One of the gripes with recruiting services in pretty much every recruitable sport is the lack of focus on lesser recruited areas or classifications. The Washington services all want to look at 3a and 4a (for good reason, that's where the best players are). The flip side is that lower classification guys get ignored. That's not to say the levels of talent in, say, 1a baseball are close to 4a, but the 1a guys actually get completely ignored even when there are legitimate division 1 caliber guys there. The only saving grace is showcases that cost a shit ton.

It's similar with the national recruiting services lile 247 or ESPN. 247 is much better about it, but the focus is still on the areas with more talent, similar to the focus on higher classifications. So Idaho, which is basically a 1a football state in this comparison, gets essentially ignored. There may be legit high 4* caliber guys like Gaard, but the focus isn't there, so often they are rated far too low.

And, similar to the Washington recruiting comparison, that isn't to say that the recruiting services are necessarily wrong to focus on California and Texas over Idaho. The talent levels aren't close and the ratings are actually often a very good guide for how teams in CFB will do.

But it still remains very possible for a guy like Gaard to slip through the cracks. I'm not saying that recruiting services don't matter. They do! Ratings are overall very important on a full class basis in terms of average. It's simply that there will be misses that seem obvious in retrospect.

Taylor Rapp and Trey Adams are obvious examples.

Edit: TL;DR Gaard is good

Cam Williams. Kid is going to be an freshman AA

 

[doog_codpiece]

After adding Smalls, Banks, Hector, Carlton, and Overman to our class our total score jumps up to 261.85. That is slightly higher than last year (259.19) and would have put us at #14 last year. And this is before any re-rankings. I fully expect some of our lower rated recruits (Smith, Bruener, West) to get bumped up before it's all said and done.

Speaking of which, I decided to look at the 247 rankings rather than composite since I haven’t in awhile.....

View attachment 22260

For all the talk and media hype about how Oregon is killing it in recruiting:

View attachment 21397

I know they traditionally stacked their scores closer to signing day, but still wild seeing USC off the board.

Aside from the potential for Bryant Jr, doesn’t look like there’s a single top 150 player they could close on near signing day either. Seems like their class will end up like the old Sark ones, couple high end players and lots of filler... unless Urban is hired and then I take back all of this.

 

[CFetters_Nacho_Lover]

After adding Smalls, Banks, Hector, Carlton, and Overman to our class our total score jumps up to 261.85. That is slightly higher than last year (259.19) and would have put us at #14 last year. And this is before any re-rankings. I fully expect some of our lower rated recruits (Smith, Bruener, West) to get bumped up before it's all said and done.

Speaking of which, I decided to look at the 247 rankings rather than composite since I haven’t in awhile.....

View attachment 22260

For all the talk and media hype about how Oregon is killing it in recruiting:

View attachment 21397

I know they traditionally stacked their scores closer to signing day, but still wild seeing USC off the board.

Aside from the potential for Bryant Jr, doesn’t look like there’s a single top 150 player they could close on near signing day either. Seems like their class will end up like the old Sark ones, couple high end players and lots of filler... unless Urban is hired and then I take back all of this.

Solid effort from a guy with less than 50 poasts.

 

[dawgs206]

I didn't think we'd have less 4*s on 247 than the composite.

Garbers and Redman are 3* on 247. The trend in the past have been the other way around where our guys had 4* on 247 but dropped to 3* in composite due to ESPN rankings (Cam Williams, Jackson Sirmon).

Yeah, Gaard is also ranked ridiculously low on 247

That's one of the things where rankings don't fucking matter. The dude slaughters people, has every measurable in the book, and has like 30 fucking offers.

One of the gripes with recruiting services in pretty much every recruitable sport is the lack of focus on lesser recruited areas or classifications. The Washington services all want to look at 3a and 4a (for good reason, that's where the best players are). The flip side is that lower classification guys get ignored. That's not to say the levels of talent in, say, 1a baseball are close to 4a, but the 1a guys actually get completely ignored even when there are legitimate division 1 caliber guys there. The only saving grace is showcases that cost a shit ton.

It's similar with the national recruiting services lile 247 or ESPN. 247 is much better about it, but the focus is still on the areas with more talent, similar to the focus on higher classifications. So Idaho, which is basically a 1a football state in this comparison, gets essentially ignored. There may be legit high 4* caliber guys like Gaard, but the focus isn't there, so often they are rated far too low.

And, similar to the Washington recruiting comparison, that isn't to say that the recruiting services are necessarily wrong to focus on California and Texas over Idaho. The talent levels aren't close and the ratings are actually often a very good guide for how teams in CFB will do.

But it still remains very possible for a guy like Gaard to slip through the cracks. I'm not saying that recruiting services don't matter. They do! Ratings are overall very important on a full class basis in terms of average. It's simply that there will be misses that seem obvious in retrospect.

Taylor Rapp and Trey Adams are obvious examples.

Edit: TL;DR Gaard is good

I know he told his coaches not to pull him out of class and he has no interest in other schools, but where did you find he has 30 offers?

This is coming from a big supporter of Gaard. Probably the most underrated commit we have. Didn't go to camps or pursue other offers. In his basketball highlights he goes down the court flexing after made buckets. Clearly an alpha.

 

[dhdawg]

Dennis said on a pod that he has at least 20-25 offers

 

[DoogCourics]

I didn't think we'd have less 4*s on 247 than the composite.

Garbers and Redman are 3* on 247. The trend in the past have been the other way around where our guys had 4* on 247 but dropped to 3* in composite due to ESPN rankings (Cam Williams, Jackson Sirmon).

Yeah, Gaard is also ranked ridiculously low on 247

That's one of the things where rankings don't fucking matter. The dude slaughters people, has every measurable in the book, and has like 30 fucking offers.

One of the gripes with recruiting services in pretty much every recruitable sport is the lack of focus on lesser recruited areas or classifications. The Washington services all want to look at 3a and 4a (for good reason, that's where the best players are). The flip side is that lower classification guys get ignored. That's not to say the levels of talent in, say, 1a baseball are close to 4a, but the 1a guys actually get completely ignored even when there are legitimate division 1 caliber guys there. The only saving grace is showcases that cost a shit ton.

It's similar with the national recruiting services lile 247 or ESPN. 247 is much better about it, but the focus is still on the areas with more talent, similar to the focus on higher classifications. So Idaho, which is basically a 1a football state in this comparison, gets essentially ignored. There may be legit high 4* caliber guys like Gaard, but the focus isn't there, so often they are rated far too low.

And, similar to the Washington recruiting comparison, that isn't to say that the recruiting services are necessarily wrong to focus on California and Texas over Idaho. The talent levels aren't close and the ratings are actually often a very good guide for how teams in CFB will do.

But it still remains very possible for a guy like Gaard to slip through the cracks. I'm not saying that recruiting services don't matter. They do! Ratings are overall very important on a full class basis in terms of average. It's simply that there will be misses that seem obvious in retrospect.

Taylor Rapp and Trey Adams are obvious examples.

Edit: TL;DR Gaard is good

I know he told his coaches not to pull him out of class and he has no interest in other schools, but where did you find he has 30 offers?

This is coming from a big supporter of Gaard. Probably the most underrated commit we have. Didn't go to camps or pursue other offers. In his basketball highlights he goes down the court flexing after made buckets. Clearly an alpha.

Pretty sure in an interview with Ektard awhile back, Gaard’s coach mentioned that once he committed to UW he told his coach to not allow any communication or recruiters on campus. Was mentioned that the entire Pac-12, half the Big-10, and then a handful of both the Big-12 and SEC schools had called to offer or start communicating and they were turned away.

 

[KrunkJuice]

I didn't think we'd have less 4*s on 247 than the composite.

Garbers and Redman are 3* on 247. The trend in the past have been the other way around where our guys had 4* on 247 but dropped to 3* in composite due to ESPN rankings (Cam Williams, Jackson Sirmon).

Yeah, Gaard is also ranked ridiculously low on 247

That's one of the things where rankings don't fucking matter. The dude slaughters people, has every measurable in the book, and has like 30 fucking offers.

One of the gripes with recruiting services in pretty much every recruitable sport is the lack of focus on lesser recruited areas or classifications. The Washington services all want to look at 3a and 4a (for good reason, that's where the best players are). The flip side is that lower classification guys get ignored. That's not to say the levels of talent in, say, 1a baseball are close to 4a, but the 1a guys actually get completely ignored even when there are legitimate division 1 caliber guys there. The only saving grace is showcases that cost a shit ton.

It's similar with the national recruiting services lile 247 or ESPN. 247 is much better about it, but the focus is still on the areas with more talent, similar to the focus on higher classifications. So Idaho, which is basically a 1a football state in this comparison, gets essentially ignored. There may be legit high 4* caliber guys like Gaard, but the focus isn't there, so often they are rated far too low.

And, similar to the Washington recruiting comparison, that isn't to say that the recruiting services are necessarily wrong to focus on California and Texas over Idaho. The talent levels aren't close and the ratings are actually often a very good guide for how teams in CFB will do.

But it still remains very possible for a guy like Gaard to slip through the cracks. I'm not saying that recruiting services don't matter. They do! Ratings are overall very important on a full class basis in terms of average. It's simply that there will be misses that seem obvious in retrospect.

Taylor Rapp and Trey Adams are obvious examples.

Edit: TL;DR Gaard is good

I know he told his coaches not to pull him out of class and he has no interest in other schools, but where did you find he has 30 offers?

This is coming from a big supporter of Gaard. Probably the most underrated commit we have. Didn't go to camps or pursue other offers. In his basketball highlights he goes down the court flexing after made buckets. Clearly an alpha.

Pretty sure in an interview with Ektard awhile back, Gaard’s coach mentioned that once he committed to UW he told his coach to not allow any communication or recruiters on campus. Was mentioned that the entire Pac-12, half the Big-10, and then a handful of both the Big-12 and SEC schools had called to offer or start communicating and they were turned away.

I hope Gaard is that sleeper from Idaho like Leighton Vander Esch was and has a similar impact. We offered very early so I view him as a 4* level recruit.