1 Million in California get health insurance cancelled
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Cry me a river
TheKobeStopper
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They'll have health insurance. It's called the emergency room.
HoustonHusky
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Republicans are almost as big of morons...they should be saying no changes, it stays as is with no delay or its repealed in full, and put up a monthly repeal vote to keep forcing the Ds up for reelection to either defend or vote to overturn it.
They also should in all these hearings, esp with Sebelius, ignore the inane details and ask here from a 10,000 foot level.
1) what was the stated goal of Obamacare (officially to provide insurance for something like ~23MM uninsured of the ~40MM uninsured at the time).
2) how many people have lost insurance so far (estimate is it will be at least 50-90MM, not quite that yet)
3) how many people have signed up so far.
4) make her do the math on record on how many need to sign up to reach their stated goal.
4) how much $$ have we spent on the program
5) at what does she personally think Obamacare becomes New Coke and should get thrown out. Pound here on this when she doesn't answer about the stated goal of the program, ROI of the money spent, and if its not meeting it or even reaching the criteria of what it replaced at what point does it become a failure.
How the fuck anyone voted for these idiots in charge is beyond me.
They also should in all these hearings, esp with Sebelius, ignore the inane details and ask here from a 10,000 foot level.
1) what was the stated goal of Obamacare (officially to provide insurance for something like ~23MM uninsured of the ~40MM uninsured at the time).
2) how many people have lost insurance so far (estimate is it will be at least 50-90MM, not quite that yet)
3) how many people have signed up so far.
4) make her do the math on record on how many need to sign up to reach their stated goal.
4) how much $$ have we spent on the program
5) at what does she personally think Obamacare becomes New Coke and should get thrown out. Pound here on this when she doesn't answer about the stated goal of the program, ROI of the money spent, and if its not meeting it or even reaching the criteria of what it replaced at what point does it become a failure.
How the fuck anyone voted for these idiots in charge is beyond me.
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I think its because Romney dragged the family dog behind the car in National Lampoon's Vacation. The dog was black making Mitt a racist. Therefore it became necessary to re elect Obama who delayed implementation of his signature accomplishment because if the dumbass 49% actually realized how that legislation fucked them they would have voted for Gus Hall instead.
Thankfully Obama was safely re elected. The democrat party that he will leave to die in a fire may not be so lucky
section8
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All depends on context, my parents lost their plan but it was replaced with one that had the same benefits/deductibles but is now $80 a month less than they were paying previously from the same provider. So while they (and many others) fall into the category of losing their plan, it's not always the whole story.
forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2013/10/31/obama-officials-in-2010-93-million-americans-will-be-unable-to-keep-their-health-plans-under-obamacare/
President Obama’s famous promise that “you could keep your plan” was not some naïve error or accident. He, and his allies, knew that previous Democratic attempts at health reform had failed because Americans were happy with the coverage they had, and opposed efforts to change the existing system.
Now, supporters of the law are offering a different argument. “We didn’t really mean it when we said you could keep your plan,” they say, “but it doesn’t matter, because the coverage you’re going to get under Obamacare will be better than the coverage you had before.”
But that’s not true. Obamacare forces insurers to offer services that most Americans don’t need, don’t want, and won’t use, for a higher price. Bob Laszewski, in a revealing blog post, wrote about the cancellation of his own health coverage. “Right now,” he wrote, “I have ‘Cadillac’ health insurance. I can access every provider in the national Blue Cross network—about every doc and hospital in America—without a referral and without higher deductibles and co-pays.”
But his plan is being canceled. His new, Obamacare-compatible plan has a $500 higher deductible, and a narrower physician and hospital network that restricts out-of-town providers. And yet it costs 66 percent more than his current plan. “Mr. President,” he writes, “I really like my health plan and I would like to keep it. Can you help me out here?”
President Obama’s famous promise that “you could keep your plan” was not some naïve error or accident. He, and his allies, knew that previous Democratic attempts at health reform had failed because Americans were happy with the coverage they had, and opposed efforts to change the existing system.
Now, supporters of the law are offering a different argument. “We didn’t really mean it when we said you could keep your plan,” they say, “but it doesn’t matter, because the coverage you’re going to get under Obamacare will be better than the coverage you had before.”
But that’s not true. Obamacare forces insurers to offer services that most Americans don’t need, don’t want, and won’t use, for a higher price. Bob Laszewski, in a revealing blog post, wrote about the cancellation of his own health coverage. “Right now,” he wrote, “I have ‘Cadillac’ health insurance. I can access every provider in the national Blue Cross network—about every doc and hospital in America—without a referral and without higher deductibles and co-pays.”
But his plan is being canceled. His new, Obamacare-compatible plan has a $500 higher deductible, and a narrower physician and hospital network that restricts out-of-town providers. And yet it costs 66 percent more than his current plan. “Mr. President,” he writes, “I really like my health plan and I would like to keep it. Can you help me out here?”
MikeDamone
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Bitch ass
CuntWaffle
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Uhhhhh have you ever had a conversation with most people who voted for Obama? Some bitch in my the office who voted for him just asked a week ago what Obamacare was. Someone told her "It is so everyone can have health coverage"... which she replied "wow that is really cool!"
I hate the party system as both suck but when it comes to politics whenever I get into any sort of argument with Republicans they at least have somewhat of a grip what goes on.
HeretoBeatmyChest
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Great video but Peter Schiff is an arrogant self aggrandizing douchebag.
Don't vote or vote libertarian....do anything else and you are part of the problem.
Don't vote or vote libertarian....do anything else and you are part of the problem.
CuntWaffle
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Yea Schiff cares more about his following of younger people who think they are libertarians than what actually happens. When my friend showed me this video I was shocked by how clueless some people are about things that are common sense.
Or like that young girl in the beginning who asked for "corporate losses" and then probably went to Starbucks after and used her facebook app on her new iPhone.
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Who the fuck would ever go to a National Convention as a spectator...
*remembers he owns a RNC '88 convention polo*
CHRIST FAMILY!
*remembers he owns a RNC '88 convention polo*
CHRIST FAMILY!
TheKobeStopper
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At least you guys aren't overreacting.
death2ducks
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puppylove_sugarsteel
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puppylove_sugarsteel
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Now it just has a fancy "obamacare" title. Now fuckoff you lazy motherfuckers. I need to plant 50 cypress trees on my property. Can I get a payback? Its under the table
death2ducks
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