What were the doogman and spadoFS's excuses for why Zach Lavine never even sniffed UW?

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5star player in your backyard and barely gives us a look. Character issues? He was in on someone better, like Jamel Taylor?
 
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5star player in your backyard and barely gives us a look. Character issues? He was in on someone better, like Jamel Taylor?
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Pretty sure the company lins were "Bruins were his dream school" and "NGW is better anyway".
 
NWG and Lavine was attainable and would have been a great class if Romar didn't try and get the most unrealistic class ever. I remember when people thought Romar was going to land Jabari Parker and Aaron Gordon lol. He's best friend with Jabaris dad and the Gordon family loves Romar!11
 
NWG and Lavine was attainable and would have been a great class if Romar didn't try and get the most unrealistic class ever. I remember when people thought Romar was going to land Jabari Parker and Aaron Gordon lol. He's best friend with Jabaris dad and the Gordon family loves Romar!11
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THIS. Doogs excuses him bringing in zero kids the previous class because he had Gordon, Parker and Bird locked up.
 
NWG and Lavine was attainable and would have been a great class if Romar didn't try and get the most unrealistic class ever. I remember when people thought Romar was going to land Jabari Parker and Aaron Gordon lol. He's best friend with Jabaris dad and the Gordon family loves Romar!11
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Ro is lazy. Plain and simple. Much easier to pretend you'll get the talent that is known than to beat the bushes for the unknown.

Maybe that's what a 10 yr contract does to you.

 
Cuntwaffle, Remember Romar brought in nobody last year as he saved those scholarships for Gordon, Bird and Parker who Doogs actually believed were coming here.

Anyone with half a brain knew they weren't coming here.

Romar had back to back awful recruiting classes. The Wroten year you had him and 6 others with none of them being worth much(Andrews would be an 8th man on a good team). Then the following year brought in zero high school players.

Romar flat punted two classes and nobody in our media called him on it.
 
Lavine's not very good. He will only be the best player in the conference if he comes back next year. No big loss.
 
Lavine's not very good. He will only be the best player in the conference if he comes back next year. No big loss.
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To their credit, a couple of semi-free thinking doogman members called out beach on calling lavine "soft" and griswold for saying jamel taylor would have a better career. That's right up there with Ektard saying Nathan Dean has a higher ceiling than Garnett and Banner combined.
 
Lavine's not very good. He will only be the best player in the conference if he comes back next year. No big loss.
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To their credit, a couple of semi-free thinking doogman members called out beach on calling lavine "soft" and griswold for saying jamel taylor would have a better career. That's right up there with Ektard saying Nathan Dean has a higher ceiling than Garnett and Banner combined.
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Beach has always been a moron. He's not a dick like the football trio, but he has no business being a lead hoops analyst, even for a shitty website.

Griswald actually said Taylor would have a better career? I would hope he meant that Taylor would be a solid contributor for 3-4 years and LaVine was going to be one and done. In that sense, it's still stupid, but not quite as bad.

 
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Beach might be the biggest idiot I've ever seen when it comes to talking hoops.

The number of people that still continue to wonder how the UW didn't make the conference tournament after winning the regular season title a few years ago flat out fucking amazes me.

When the lead analyst anywhere doesn't have a fucking clue what a good team looks like or what it takes to make or miss the NCAA tournament, you've got problems.

I also thoroughly enjoy the people that are giving Romar credit this year for essentially reaching what the preseason expectations for him while glossing over that those preseason expectations were a fucking dreckfest.
 
5star player in your backyard and barely gives us a look. Character issues? He was in on someone better, like Jamel Taylor?
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He had ZERO pts against the Cougs.

And He's white. Nuff said.

 
On Twitter Beach said no player bothers him as much as Lavine. Lavine will be one of the best players in the conference if he returns. Beach also hates Sean Miller which makes him say Miller isn't a good coach and that Romar is better. Miller hasn't proven to be elite yet, but he's pretty damn good and he brings in great recruiting classes every year. One of the years he is going to make the Final 4. It very well could be this year. Beach is no more than a doog, and not even a very knowledgeable one.
 
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Miller isn't an elite coach yet but he is undoubtably a top 3 recruiter. And no not everyone can recruit to arizona
 
Miller isn't an elite coach yet but he is undoubtably a top 3 recruiter. And no not everyone can recruit to arizona
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Well yeah but Miller cheats and Romar doesn't. It really is as simple as that.
 
At least he would have averaged 18ppg at UW and would be lottery pick
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I don't know about 18, but he would have played a lot. Beach actually said he wouldn't have started over Andrews because Andrews plays defense.

 
Two things that absolutely crack me up are the opinions that are made by watching AAU tournaments (which are glorified pickup games that showcase talent) and summer scrimmage watching (which are also glorified pickup games where the only defensive accountability comes if there's actually people who give a shit about it and care about winning in those settings versus getting their work in). Beach and company put a lot of stock into both ... which is just downright comical.

Nothing was ever as fucktarded as saying that we deserved to be in the NCAAs for winning the conference and then getting bounced by Oregon St with a terrible profile. I somewhat understand Larry Scott saying as much recently that UW should have been in that year ... because that's his job to put out positive PR for the conference ... but being realistic about what is going on is another story. That was a talented team that vastly underachieved throughout the year and in all honesty hadn't done anything (other than winning the regular season title in a BS conference) to warrant a selection. The fact that so many still get butthurt about that one is crazy.

IF it was obvious that Lavine was going to the NCAA after one year no matter what, then I can understand why Romar passed on him given the Tony Wroten experiment. However, to say that Lavine wasn't talented was ridiculous. He's got a very smooth stroke with his main problems being that of most freshman (not knowing how hard you have to work defensively and the nuances of playing basketball at a high level being tied more to what you are doing without the ball than what you are doing with the ball).

Also, the downright criticism and hatred of Miller is ridiculous. His track record as a coach both on and off the court is at a high level. He's built highly rated recruiting classes. He's advanced deep in the NCAAs with two different schools. If your biggest criticism of him is that he "might" be a bit dirty, how is that different than so many coaches in college basketball? If anything, criticizing Miller for "playing the game" more or less just tells you about how much Romar "won't play the game." And that's great if as a program you are prepared to have mediocre results and your fanbase supports such. But given the attendance levels this year and the general "sizzle" around the program, it sure doesn't strike me that most are content with those results.
 
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