Pitchfork51
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The trash article that was linked actually leads with this: The Republican Party's assault on American democracy is an imminent existential crisis. But this disaster was long in the making.
I stopped reading then. These people are seriously delusional.
It’s a perfectly human reaction to run away when confronted with an uncomfortable truth.
You mean like Trudeau?
I don’t follow Canadian politics. America first.
And? Any evidence of trump supporters marching through the streets and burning buildings? What is that you have 'observed'?
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While we all weep for Targets with broken glass, I draw a distinction between destroying property and attacking democracy.
No one should riot, it is not the most effective way to be heard but sometimes it happens. What doesn’t happen is attacking our capitol.
You realize the government is an institution made up of hundreds of thousands of people right? That standing in a room doesn't actually "overthrow the government" and establish a new one ?
Like you do realize that right? That there was no possibility of overthrowing the government
They were there to overturn an election with no evidence that it was fraudulent. We are STILL waiting for the kraken btw. There was a plan for how Mike Pence could do it.
You are arguing that because it fell apart, it’s no big deal. Just a few people milling about. Trump’s failure to execute is not an excuse.
I think it was a bunch of dumbasses rioting. I think every person there had about a million things better to do with their life instead of be a rioting dork.
I do believe there were probably a few nutters that meant harm to the politicians. And they should be prosecuted.
But building up this absurd "they nearly took over the whole country" is just pathetic.
It didn't "fall apart"
That implies there was some realistic goal that just got unlucky and failed to achieve.
Was that horn wearing guy going to replace Nancy as house speaker? Lol
I also think you greatly overestimate how many people take this seriously and that harping on it is a legit political plan.
Like a few people in my office were like hey they are rioting check it out lol!
Then went into a meeting or whatever and didn't think much about it.
Changing the narrative that the world was hanging on bated breath for the future of democracy is idiotic
"Actually, what they are saying, is that Mike Pence did have the right to change the outcome, and they now want to take that right away," he falsely claimed. "Unfortunately, he didn't exercise that power, he could have overturned the Election!"
Trump 3 weeks after. But yeah no one was trying to overturn the election.
Bro trump lost. He may have been looking for legal recourse to overturn (which never had a chance and nothing came of it) but what does that have to do with
"We almost lost our democracy!"
Honest question. Do you truly believe people care enough about Jan 6!! that it will help the Dems as a political strategy?
As opposed to rising prices, etc stuff that hits people directly.
No one even cared about Russia. They mostly disliked his demeanor
Yes I know the right is thrilled with global inflation from the pandemic as they can act like Biden won’t just hit the “lower inflation” button on his desk.
Seen a lot of “here’s how we’d lower inflation” plans?
Yes, if you have a party that is willing to bin democracy, that should be more important than high gas prices.
Trump literally said Pence should have overturned the election and you seriously responded with “well maybe he was looking into some legal recourse”. I mean come on.
You didn't answer my question. Do you believe that the majority of voters care about Jan 6 enough to vote against the Republicans?
Do you believe it's more important than gas food etc
63% an effort to overthrow the election and keep Trump in power, 55% an insurrection, and 54% an attempted overthrow of the US government. [/i]
https://www.forbes.com/sites/bowmanmarsico/2022/01/05/new-polls-on-january-6/?sh=fdfd80318165
That’s last month.
Yes, I think it’s effective political strategy. How many people will factor it into their vote is to be determined.
Fair enough. I guess we'll see.
For the record I think you are wrong