OT: The original Marinerization

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In his five seasons as manager of the Pirates, Lloyd McClendon compiled a 336–446 record.

Paying to attend Mariner games is the one thing more fucktarded than paying to attend Husky games.
 
Did they hire this guy or something? I thought the Mariners moved to Oklahoma City?
 
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Hugh Millen is blowing a gasket ...
 
Why didn't they hire Jim Leyland? Oh yeah, because he's a proven winner. Fucking Mariners...
 
Baseball coaches are pretty worthless when in comes to the MLB. The only thing they do is make the lineup (which is almost the exact same every night) and figure out when to put in a certain pitcher.

Mariners could have gotten Dusty Baker, Joe Torre, or La Russa and it wouldn't matter because the talent blows. You think this guy that they hired really had anything to do with Miguel Cabrera hitting the shit out of the ball? When you get to the MLB you don't need to be coached on your swing or your fundamentals on defense/pitching. Look at the world series this year, it was a 3rd year head coach vs a 1st year head coach.

Mariners being worthless is a talent issue, which stems from shitty trade after shitty trade (Adam Jones for Erik Bedard!!!11!) and having horrible scouts when it comes to the draft. Look at some of the players they passed over for fucks like Morrow.

 
This is actually a pretty good hire - I actually like McClendon a lot
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Yes, because you follow the career of a lifelong bench coach, who has a losing record during his one stint at the helm ...

Fuck ...
 
Great manager and shit GM = .500 seasons

Shit manager and great GM = Home playoff games

Head coaches are extremely important in football and basketball, but in baseball, the GM is the most important position to the franchise for on field performance.

 
Great manager and shit GM = .500 seasons

Shit manager and great GM = Home playoff games

Head coaches are extremely important in football and basketball, but in baseball, the GM is the most important position to the franchise for on field performance.
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Nailed it. Head coach is just a face to go with the franchise. GM's are way more important for the success of a baseball team.
 
In his five seasons as manager of the Pirates, Lloyd McClendon compiled a 336–446 record.

Paying to attend Mariner games is the one thing more fucktarded than paying to attend Husky games.
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With marinerization you'd usually want at least a +500 coach. Say, 7-6 year after year. The idea is to keep easily gullible fans in the stands with the hope of "next year will be the one." You have to balance between getting a stable coach that does not take unnecessary risks and losing too much. The bottom line is MONEY. If profit then success, not if win then success. Big Difference
 
Hard to hold his managerial record against him in Pittsburgh ...

Absolutely agree that a manager is shit without a good GM and backing of ownership ...

The Mariners at minimum need new direction from ownership ...

Jack Z probably isn't the answer at GM, and I'd be 100% supportive of moving on from him if there was new ownership and they decided to go in a different direction ... but I can't absolutely 100% say that he's terrible given what he's had to work with.
 
Baseball coaches are pretty worthless when in comes to the MLB. The only thing they do is make the lineup (which is almost the exact same every night) and figure out when to put in a certain pitcher.

Mariners could have gotten Dusty Baker, Joe Torre, or La Russa and it wouldn't matter because the talent blows. You think this guy that they hired really had anything to do with Miguel Cabrera hitting the shit out of the ball? When you get to the MLB you don't need to be coached on your swing or your fundamentals on defense/pitching. Look at the world series this year, it was a 3rd year head coach vs a 1st year head coach.

Mariners being worthless is a talent issue, which stems from shitty trade after shitty trade (Adam Jones for Erik Bedard!!!11!) and having horrible scouts when it comes to the draft. Look at some of the players they passed over for fucks like Morrow.
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While I somewhat understand your logic, you lost all creditability when you referred to an MLB manager as a "head coach." I believe they're referred to as Managers in MLB, not head coaches. You probably call home plate, "home base." Christ almighty.

 
Baseball coaches are pretty worthless when in comes to the MLB. The only thing they do is make the lineup (which is almost the exact same every night) and figure out when to put in a certain pitcher.

Mariners could have gotten Dusty Baker, Joe Torre, or La Russa and it wouldn't matter because the talent blows. You think this guy that they hired really had anything to do with Miguel Cabrera hitting the shit out of the ball? When you get to the MLB you don't need to be coached on your swing or your fundamentals on defense/pitching. Look at the world series this year, it was a 3rd year head coach vs a 1st year head coach.

Mariners being worthless is a talent issue, which stems from shitty trade after shitty trade (Adam Jones for Erik Bedard!!!11!) and having horrible scouts when it comes to the draft. Look at some of the players they passed over for fucks like Morrow.
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While I somewhat understand your logic, you lost all creditability when you referred to an MLB manager as a "head coach." I believe they're referred to as Managers in MLB, not head coaches. You probably call home plate, "home base." Christ almighty.
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When I played I liked to call it "the dish". I usually referred to the head honcho as "the skipper" as well but I like to mix things up on tuesdays.
 
Baseball coaches are pretty worthless when in comes to the MLB. The only thing they do is make the lineup (which is almost the exact same every night) and figure out when to put in a certain pitcher.

Mariners could have gotten Dusty Baker, Joe Torre, or La Russa and it wouldn't matter because the talent blows. You think this guy that they hired really had anything to do with Miguel Cabrera hitting the shit out of the ball? When you get to the MLB you don't need to be coached on your swing or your fundamentals on defense/pitching. Look at the world series this year, it was a 3rd year head coach vs a 1st year head coach.

Mariners being worthless is a talent issue, which stems from shitty trade after shitty trade (Adam Jones for Erik Bedard!!!11!) and having horrible scouts when it comes to the draft. Look at some of the players they passed over for fucks like Morrow.
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You, my friend, understand how major league baseball works
 
Hiring a black coach who failed at another job. Gee where have I seen this script before?

 
Hiring a black coach who failed at another job. Gee where have I seen this script before?
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Just more Huskyization of the Mariners.

The student has become the master.

 
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