On the 159th anniversary of popping a cap in Booth's ass - The Unions Greatest Civil War Victory
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In my mind, Gettysburg has always been a bit overrated as an American victory. Yes, a loss their would have been catastrophic, but because Meade was such a pussy and let Lee escape, it didn't have much an impact on the overall strategic picture the way Vicksburg did. Gettysburg was just a big bloody mess with a massive home field advantage.
Vicksburg was going balls deep into enemy territory and ripping their guts out. And it got Grant on Lincoln's radar like never before, which is how the war was ultimately won.
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Thud.
Don't any of you millennial douche canoes go to any Civil War battlefields ( @whlinder ) or have miniature reenactments?
Sad how far America has fallen.
Don't any of you millennial douche canoes go to any Civil War battlefields ( @whlinder ) or have miniature reenactments?
Sad how far America has fallen.
Like we say, no.Thud.
Don't any of you millennial douche canoes go to any Civil War battlefields ( @whlinder ) or have miniature reenactments?
Sad how far America has fallen.
It's OK. I've never been to a Civil War battlefield either.Like we say, no.Thud.
Don't any of you millennial douche canoes go to any Civil War battlefields ( @whlinder ) or have miniature reenactments?
Sad how far America has fallen.
Would like to see Gettysburg someday.
Millennial?Thud.
Don't any of you millennial douche canoes go to any Civil War battlefields ( @whlinder ) or have miniature reenactments?
Sad how far America has fallen.
Ah hell naw
I went to Gettysburg like 3 weeks ago.
I'm hearing that Vantage will be the site of the 2nd Civil War.It's OK. I've never been to a Civil War battlefield either.Like we say, no.Thud.
Don't any of you millennial douche canoes go to any Civil War battlefields ( @whlinder ) or have miniature reenactments?
Sad how far America has fallen.
Would like to see Gettysburg someday.
If I grew up in the South I think I'd care more about the Civil War. I'm much more into the history of WW1 and WW2 when men were men and America knew how to fuck shit up to win a war.
There’s a civil war battlefield in a place called Perryville or some shit like that. It’s a state park/memorial now and about an hour from Lexington.It's OK. I've never been to a Civil War battlefield either.Like we say, no.Thud.
Don't any of you millennial douche canoes go to any Civil War battlefields ( @whlinder ) or have miniature reenactments?
Sad how far America has fallen.
Would like to see Gettysburg someday.
I was going out that way and left early so I could stop and see the place. Fucking hate to the park was closed at 1pm on a Friday. That’s the closest I’ve ever been to a civil war battlefield unless you count some hiking in Chattanooga.
Civil war stuff is everywhere in this part of the country. Beyond just the battlefields, the names of everything are from that era. Now with the moves to change the names of things which were named for the losing side it can be utterly confusing to navigate certain areas I spent a lot of time in back in the day.
Part of this is due to living as an adult in the suburban bubble where everything was built new in the past 25 years vs growing up closer in to DC where the original names for things were set much further in the past.
Lee Highway. Jefferson-Davis Highway. Lee High School. Mosby Highway. Lee Jackson highway. There are a bunch more and they’ve all been changed now. I never even realized how ingrained it was in the area until names started to be changed.
I’ve been to Gettysburg, Antietam, Bull Run, some battlefield near Fredericksburg VA, Appomattox courthouse and a couple of memorials in Fredericksburg and Richmond. I should focus more on the Civil war and get my ancestor’s diaries transcribed. But I find WW2 way more interesting. I guess due to the global nature of it and the recency.
Part of this is due to living as an adult in the suburban bubble where everything was built new in the past 25 years vs growing up closer in to DC where the original names for things were set much further in the past.
Lee Highway. Jefferson-Davis Highway. Lee High School. Mosby Highway. Lee Jackson highway. There are a bunch more and they’ve all been changed now. I never even realized how ingrained it was in the area until names started to be changed.
I’ve been to Gettysburg, Antietam, Bull Run, some battlefield near Fredericksburg VA, Appomattox courthouse and a couple of memorials in Fredericksburg and Richmond. I should focus more on the Civil war and get my ancestor’s diaries transcribed. But I find WW2 way more interesting. I guess due to the global nature of it and the recency.
One thing I’ve noticed when I look at American military history books is that there’s a ton of Civil War, WWII, and Vietnam material but not nearly as much Revolution or WWI material.
World War 1 was not all that popular in America. Its the cause of sedition laws and other laws to stop dissent
It was also in the 4th quarter when the US squad showed up
A really stupid brutal and pointless war
It was also in the 4th quarter when the US squad showed up
A really stupid brutal and pointless war
We’re good at those kind of wars.
Arguably, the most pointless and stupid war in history. I've come around to the school of thought which considers WW1 and WW2 basically the same war, just with a 20 year half time.
You're right though @CFetters_Nacho_Lover there's not enough WW1 literature out there. Max Hasting's 1914 is recommended, of course. WW1 created all the isms of the 20th and so many of the conflicts we see today. The Jew - Arab fight really started to get its reads down as a result of WW1 and @Lawrence_of_a_Labia taking it to the Ottomans. It's too bad today's yoots on college campuses (TITTT) are so profoundly ignorant of the history of the Middle East.
At one of our Hardcore Husky get togethers last year we did a reenactment of the Grenada invasionThud.
Don't any of you millennial douche canoes go to any Civil War battlefields ( @whlinder ) or have miniature reenactments?
Sad how far America has fallen.
I get why my history pods think WW2 is more interesting than the US Civil War- i.e., the scale, the crazy dictators, the weaponry, etc.
What personally find move interesting about the Civil War is that it was the ultimate "tweener" war of the between the pre-industrial Napoleonic War and the Industrial Death of WW1.
The Civil War had so many firsts…
What personally find move interesting about the Civil War is that it was the ultimate "tweener" war of the between the pre-industrial Napoleonic War and the Industrial Death of WW1.
The Civil War had so many firsts…
- First War where choos choos played a key role
- Crimean War had use of telegraph to communicate between capitals and Generals, but the Civil War took this to the next level
- First naval battle between armored boats
- WW1 style trench warfare was invented at Cold Harbor and Petersburg (how stupid where the Euros to not see how this would play out when you add machine guns and bolt action rifles?)
Fun fact I recently learned. The first American submarine attack was ordered by George Washington against a British warship anchored near New York.
