Most likely to not RS

[chuck]

Calvert because he has a spring behind him and thinness at ILB.

Heimuli because he's probably a 3 and done, 4 years max.

McDuffie is a 4 and done so no sense redshirting him even if all he does is return kicks.

Bandes because a a fresh nose is going to play, and he's more likely than 17 year old Paama.

Cam William's obviously.

That's it. Nacau and Turner are possibles, but I see them getting their 4 games and redshirts. Tuitele as well.

 

[LaMichael_Corleone]

The definitive list.

1. CamWill
2. Calvert
3. Heimuli
4. Turner
5. Davis/Nacua

Big fellas all gotta redshirt and if you disagree go look at Trey's career and shut the fuck up. I wish Nacua was higher on this list but Baccellia, Fuller, Pounds, & Chin aka the partially responsible for Joe Ngata Quartet, will see otherwise. CamWill & Asa are at a position with absolutely no depth (Isaiah Pola-Mao & Chaz Ah You say "Hi") plus CamWill is already better, longer, and more physically talented than Gilchrist.

Calvert is too physically matured and we still need TWO guys to beat out Manu so that in the highly likely case of a Welly injury, Kyler is still as far away from the field as possible. Sirmon/Tafisi/Calvert/Heimuli/Ulofoshio will hopefully put us out of our misery. Heimuli is a special teams ACE this year at minimum but with him being penciled in as the heir to the Shaq/KB/BBK/WELLY WILL position, I wouldn't be surprised if he's a 4-Gamer.

 

[UW_Doog_Bot]

The definitive list.

1. CamWill
2. Calvert
3. Heimuli
4. Turner
5. Davis/Nacua

Big fellas all gotta redshirt and if you disagree go look at Trey's career and shut the fuck up. I wish Nacua was higher on this list but Baccellia, Fuller, Pounds, & Chin aka the partially responsible for Joe Ngata Quartet, will see otherwise. CamWill & Asa are at a position with absolutely no depth (Isaiah Pola-Mao & Chaz Ah You say "Hi") plus CamWill is already better, longer, and more physically talented than Gilchrist.

Calvert is too physically matured and we still need TWO guys to beat out Manu so that in the highly likely case of a Welly injury, Kyler is still as far away from the field as possible. Sirmon/Tafisi/Calvert/Heimuli/Ulofoshio will hopefully put us out of our misery. Heimuli is a special teams ACE this year at minimum but with him being penciled in as the heir to the Shaq/KB/BBK/WELLY WILL position, I wouldn't be surprised if he's a 4-Gamer.

Bandes also missed a lot of early enrollment because of his appendicitis(?) pretty much negating that advantage. Paama also a year younger than basically everyone. I would rather see both redshirt(with 4 game rotational tim of course).

 

[NEsnake12]

The definitive list.

1. CamWill
2. Calvert
3. Heimuli
4. Turner
5. Davis/Nacua

Big fellas all gotta redshirt and if you disagree go look at Trey's career and shut the fuck up. I wish Nacua was higher on this list but Baccellia, Fuller, Pounds, & Chin aka the partially responsible for Joe Ngata Quartet, will see otherwise. CamWill & Asa are at a position with absolutely no depth (Isaiah Pola-Mao & Chaz Ah You say "Hi") plus CamWill is already better, longer, and more physically talented than Gilchrist.

Calvert is too physically matured and we still need TWO guys to beat out Manu so that in the highly likely case of a Welly injury, Kyler is still as far away from the field as possible. Sirmon/Tafisi/Calvert/Heimuli/Ulofoshio will hopefully put us out of our misery. Heimuli is a special teams ACE this year at minimum but with him being penciled in as the heir to the Shaq/KB/BBK/WELLY WILL position, I wouldn't be surprised if he's a 4-Gamer.

On top of them being needed for the defensive rotation, those first 4 guys should all be key special teams players right out of the gate

 

[UW_Doog_Bot]

The definitive list.

1. CamWill
2. Calvert
3. Heimuli
4. Turner
5. Davis/Nacua

Big fellas all gotta redshirt and if you disagree go look at Trey's career and shut the fuck up. I wish Nacua was higher on this list but Baccellia, Fuller, Pounds, & Chin aka the partially responsible for Joe Ngata Quartet, will see otherwise. CamWill & Asa are at a position with absolutely no depth (Isaiah Pola-Mao & Chaz Ah You say "Hi") plus CamWill is already better, longer, and more physically talented than Gilchrist.

Calvert is too physically matured and we still need TWO guys to beat out Manu so that in the highly likely case of a Welly injury, Kyler is still as far away from the field as possible. Sirmon/Tafisi/Calvert/Heimuli/Ulofoshio will hopefully put us out of our misery. Heimuli is a special teams ACE this year at minimum but with him being penciled in as the heir to the Shaq/KB/BBK/WELLY WILL position, I wouldn't be surprised if he's a 4-Gamer.

On top of them being needed for the defensive rotation, those first 4 guys should all be key special teams players right out of the gate

I don't disagree that those guys could be special teams stars but with our schedule this year I doubt there's a meaningful need for them on special teams in more than four games. Would hate to see them burn a redshirt for 12 snaps at kick coverage. If they are already burning it playing meaningful snaps on D then it is what it is. McDuffie could be that kind of difference maker on special teams but I doubt Petermen trusts a true freshman with those duties unless he's next level.

 

[bananasnblondes]

As far as Nacua goes, I think a lot will depend on how Bynum, Osbirbe, and Spiker look. If all those guys have made big strides, I dont care to see Nacua's RS burned so that he can catch 5 passes and play some on special teams. With the new 4 games rule, I'd like it if he gets playing time early, then make the decision of whether he will be a strong contributor for the season. If not, let him sit and preserve the RS

 

[LaMichael_Corleone]

As far as Nacua goes, I think a lot will depend on how Bynum, Osbirbe, and Spiker look. If all those guys have made big strides, I dont care to see Nacua's RS burned so that he can catch 5 passes and play some on special teams. With the new 4 games rule, I'd like it if he gets playing time early, then make the decision of whether he will be a strong contributor for the season. If not, let him sit and preserve the RS

Justyn Ross had 1,000 yard receiving as a true freshman with Tee Higgins, Amari Rodgers, and Hunter Renfrow in front of him. I get your point but there's no reason Aaron Fuller should play as a true frosh and Puka doesn't. At least I hope Pete sees it that way. If Pete can coach and develop like we all know he can, it shouldn't matter who is in front of Ty, Bynum, Spiker, Osborne, & Nacua with their talent, Pete should be able to make them better than the older players.

There is zero excuses as to why Spiker & Osborne shouldn't be All-PAC-12 as RS-FR and to why Nacua can't be a late season explosive play machine, if Aaron Fuller was a number 3/starter as a true freshman.

 

[CFetters_Nacho_Lover]

I’ve seen Fautanu on campus and he’s still using one of those scooter things I doubt he’ll be healthy by Fall. I’ve also seen Wattenberg and he looks like that one chubby friend everyone has. I want Bainivalu or Ale to beat him out badly.

How many in here are that chubby friend that everyone has?

WOOD

Before or after the ACL?

 

[GreenRiverGatorz]

As far as Nacua goes, I think a lot will depend on how Bynum, Osbirbe, and Spiker look. If all those guys have made big strides, I dont care to see Nacua's RS burned so that he can catch 5 passes and play some on special teams. With the new 4 games rule, I'd like it if he gets playing time early, then make the decision of whether he will be a strong contributor for the season. If not, let him sit and preserve the RS

Justyn Ross had 1,000 yard receiving as a true freshman with Tee Higgins, Amari Rodgers, and Hunter Renfrow in front of him. I get your point but there's no reason Aaron Fuller should play as a true frosh and Puka doesn't. At least I hope Pete sees it that way. If Pete can coach and develop like we all know he can, it shouldn't matter who is in front of Ty, Bynum, Spiker, Osborne, & Nacua with their talent, Pete should be able to make them better than the older players.

There is zero excuses as to why Spiker & Osborne shouldn't be All-PAC-12 as RS-FR and to why Nacua can't be a late season explosive play machine, if Aaron Fuller was a number 3/starter as a true freshman.

There's no reason Fuller should play as a true frosh and Spiker doesn't. But it happened. And at this point we have a shit load of bodies at the position. If Puka plays it'll mean he's really special. If it's anything other than that reason our coaches fucked up. Either by not developing several classes worth of talent ahead of him, or by misguidedly burning his redshirt.

 

[TTJ]

Estimated likelihood of playing >4 games in 2019-20:

Williams 90%
Horn 80%
C. Davis 80%
Calvert 70%
Nacua 70%
Heimuli 60%
Latu 60%
Bandes 50%
McDuffie 50%
Turner 40%
Tuitele 30%
Tuputala 20%
Pa’ama 20%
T. Davis 10%
KamFab 10%
Luciano 10%
Morris 0%
Buelow 0%
Kalepo 0%
Fautanu 0%
Ngalu 0%
Trice 0%
Ah You 0%
Fowler 0%

 

[Quietcowskee]

Estimated likelihood of playing >4 games in 2019-20:

Williams 90%
Horn 80%
C. Davis 80%
Calvert 70%
Nacua 70%
Heimuli 60%
Latu 60%
Bandes 50%
McDuffie 50%
Turner 40%
Tuitele 30%
Tuputala 20%
Pa’ama 20%
T. Davis 10%
KamFab 10%
Luciano 10%
Morris 0%
Buelow 0%
Kalepo 0%
Fautanu 0%
Ngalu 0%
Trice 0%
Ah You 0%
Fowler 0%

Disagree

 

[DawgFader]

HornDawgs gonna get minutes.

 

[DawgWagonDan]

I’ve seen Fautanu on campus and he’s still using one of those scooter things I doubt he’ll be healthy by Fall. I’ve also seen Wattenberg and he looks like that one chubby friend everyone has. I want Bainivalu or Ale to beat him out badly.

How many in here are that chubby friend that everyone has?

WOOD

Before or after the ACL?

During...

 

[EwaDawg]

I’ve seen Fautanu on campus and he’s still using one of those scooter things I doubt he’ll be healthy by Fall. I’ve also seen Wattenberg and he looks like that one chubby friend everyone has. I want Bainivalu or Ale to beat him out badly.

How many in here are that chubby friend that everyone has?

WOOD

Before or after the ACL?

After. Too ambulatory before. .. .

 

[HillsboroDuck]

Estimated likelihood of playing >4 games in 2019-20:

Williams 90%
Horn 80%
C. Davis 80%
Calvert 70%
Nacua 70%
Heimuli 60%
Latu 60%
Bandes 50%
McDuffie 50%
Turner 40%
Tuitele 30%
Tuputala 20%
Pa’ama 20%
T. Davis 10%
KamFab 10%
Luciano 10%
Morris 0%
Buelow 0%
Kalepo 0%
Fautanu 0%
Ngalu 0%
Trice 0%
Ah You 0%
Fowler 0%

Latu and Horn too low, Nacua too high, otherwise pretty spot on.

 

[Meek]

Estimated likelihood of playing >4 games in 2019-20:

Williams 90%
Horn 80%
C. Davis 80%
Calvert 70%
Nacua 70%
Heimuli 60%
Latu 60%
Bandes 50%
McDuffie 50%
Turner 40%
Tuitele 30%
Tuputala 20%
Pa’ama 20%
T. Davis 10%
KamFab 10%
Luciano 10%
Morris 0%
Buelow 0%
Kalepo 0%
Fautanu 0%
Ngalu 0%
Trice 0%
Ah You 0%
Fowler 0%

Latu and Horn too low, Nacua too high, otherwise pretty spot on.

honest question, but outside of what heard in spring camp about Williams being unbelievable, would you have had him that high before camp?

 

[FireCohen]

Estimated likelihood of playing >4 games in 2019-20:

Williams 90%
Horn 80%
C. Davis 80%
Calvert 70%
Nacua 70%
Heimuli 60%
Latu 60%
Bandes 50%
McDuffie 50%
Turner 40%
Tuitele 30%
Tuputala 20%
Pa’ama 20%
T. Davis 10%
KamFab 10%
Luciano 10%
Morris 0%
Buelow 0%
Kalepo 0%
Fautanu 0%
Ngalu 0%
Trice 0%
Ah You 0%
Fowler 0%

Latu and Horn too low, Nacua too high, otherwise pretty spot on.

honest question, but outside of what heard in spring camp about Williams being unbelievable, would you have had him that high before camp?

Roddie has been ridding can willams train since the day we offered.

I think everyone thought he had elite balls skills and instincts, but very thin kid.

 

[HillsboroDuck]

Estimated likelihood of playing >4 games in 2019-20:

Williams 90%
Horn 80%
C. Davis 80%
Calvert 70%
Nacua 70%
Heimuli 60%
Latu 60%
Bandes 50%
McDuffie 50%
Turner 40%
Tuitele 30%
Tuputala 20%
Pa’ama 20%
T. Davis 10%
KamFab 10%
Luciano 10%
Morris 0%
Buelow 0%
Kalepo 0%
Fautanu 0%
Ngalu 0%
Trice 0%
Ah You 0%
Fowler 0%

Latu and Horn too low, Nacua too high, otherwise pretty spot on.

honest question, but outside of what heard in spring camp about Williams being unbelievable, would you have had him that high before camp?

No I would not have. But obviously
safety was wide open and @alopeciadawg has made it pretty clear he’s going to play, if not start.