LEARN TO CODE
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The tech workforce doubled in 2020-2022 and the barrier to entry was lowered to accommodate all the little Timmy's with their CS degrees from southwestern Nevada tech state or some online grifter degree.
Companies realized they couldn't scale with these people and then healthcare costs, AI tools, and some other factors made them realize they're better off growing with smaller teams of experienced people using these tools. The older middle management types making half a mil per year in Seattle that did something 20 years ago got expendable as well.
The big players are racing to be the AI platform everyone uses. AWS is going to win out, because they have everything else around their system already that is dominating the market. They've had an agent system for 2 years already, and I built a document agent after we let our documentation team ago. Google and Nvidia needed to have that infra in place, Google Cloud is there obviously but it sucks compared to AWS.
Companies realized they couldn't scale with these people and then healthcare costs, AI tools, and some other factors made them realize they're better off growing with smaller teams of experienced people using these tools. The older middle management types making half a mil per year in Seattle that did something 20 years ago got expendable as well.
The big players are racing to be the AI platform everyone uses. AWS is going to win out, because they have everything else around their system already that is dominating the market. They've had an agent system for 2 years already, and I built a document agent after we let our documentation team ago. Google and Nvidia needed to have that infra in place, Google Cloud is there obviously but it sucks compared to AWS.
Amazon quality took a very noticeable nose dive a couple months ago
I never had an issue and now they fuck everything up. They pissed off my wife so sell
I'm talking their core business of getting me shit fast and right
Never should have fired bucky
I never had an issue and now they fuck everything up. They pissed off my wife so sell
I'm talking their core business of getting me shit fast and right
Never should have fired bucky
Just read a blurb somewhere that says your average Microsoft Office worker skillset is going to get slammed in the next 12 to 18 months. Don't know all that much about it - nor the technology coding behind it. But it didn't sound good for the job security of Joe Average office worker who is the worthy keeper of the spreadsheet. Whether or not CoPilot Work sucks doesn't matter - it's getting tee'd up to replace keyboard jockeys.
Between now and then, though, the higher ups who are demanding automation and replacement of fingers with AI agents (whatever the fuck that means) are having to dance this weird dance of 'valuing' their employees to get the work done in the meantime. They know the RIF is coming sooner rather than later and hope the worker bees don't figure that out before the bugs can get ironed out.
Throbber keeps saying it but accounting, legal and finance are going to undergo massive upheaval in the next two to three years, give or take. Gonna whack the entry level/early career people the most because they don't have the experience to know whether AI is bullshitting them or not.
That just means professionals with some experience are spared for now and opportunity exists for those who know how to implement the AI tools into the changing environment. Instead of studying for the CPA test, young Johnny should be learning AI tools and how to integrate with ERP systems. Bob the HVAC owner doesn't have a fucking clue how to do that and doesn't want to.
Between now and then, though, the higher ups who are demanding automation and replacement of fingers with AI agents (whatever the fuck that means) are having to dance this weird dance of 'valuing' their employees to get the work done in the meantime. They know the RIF is coming sooner rather than later and hope the worker bees don't figure that out before the bugs can get ironed out.
Throbber keeps saying it but accounting, legal and finance are going to undergo massive upheaval in the next two to three years, give or take. Gonna whack the entry level/early career people the most because they don't have the experience to know whether AI is bullshitting them or not.
That just means professionals with some experience are spared for now and opportunity exists for those who know how to implement the AI tools into the changing environment. Instead of studying for the CPA test, young Johnny should be learning AI tools and how to integrate with ERP systems. Bob the HVAC owner doesn't have a fucking clue how to do that and doesn't want to.
In my domain at least, there's pretty much no demand for agents. If a single line of code or undeterministic prompt can cost you tens of thousands instantly and break your sla's, there is no efficiency gain that is worth ending your business over.
In the future there might be an ask for things that just query for documents and can't "break" stuff, but we were tired of building those things manually anyways.
To your point about Johnny, working with these things properly, harnessing and honing them to a business, that is much much harder than "learning to code". The learning the code crowd has been gone for awhile now already due to a research tax break that ended and healthcare costs skyrocketing. Offshoring is pretty much a reaction to that and the fact that the newest round of juniors out of college are too hard to train now.
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MikeDamone
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I can't wait to be let go. If only....
Man, I'm just shocked, SCHOCKED, that experienced architects, especially in e-commerce domains, are making even more money in light of this. My bank account all the sudden makes sense:
futurism.com
Amazon Admits Extensive AI Use Is Wreaking Havoc on Its Core Business
Amazon's ecommmerce held a meeting with engineers where leadership admitted that AI usage played a part in its shopping website's struggles.
futurism.com
I knew it
They fucked the golden goose that made them
Good call to reverse it
They fucked the golden goose that made them
Good call to reverse it
There have been show stopper bugs around as long as they started trying this. Even in AWS.
Quality product, elite customer service. User empathy. The path to success still hasn't changed all these years later.
Pitchfork51
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I am dead serious when I say there’s never been a better time to learn to code. Every single system racing to put out interfaces to work with ai and such means that being able to use these tools give you incredible capability in comparison to someone who can’t.
And right now stuff like Claude code is really the best interface for using them. Nothing else has really cracked it yet in other applications.
And right now stuff like Claude code is really the best interface for using them. Nothing else has really cracked it yet in other applications.
The Borg is coming.
The very gullible @HuskyBuck, Spaz as I like to call him, liked to brag about his fake retirement package at his fake Amazon job.
Amazon has no intention of retaining most of their white-collar workers until they can retire.
It's been a bloated company forever, especially on the Amazon side. I would meet people that were managers there while in Seattle and would think to myself What The Actual Fuck almost every time.
Oh you mean Tech workers have to adapt to new technology as it comes in and can’t stay stagnant? How long have you been sitting on this insider information?
The one you should worry about is haie who has the technical skills but absolutely sucks at applying those skills to customer needs.
Finally if you’re saying I shouldn’t have wasted the last 15 years in Tech, guess again. I’m better off than 95% of America w/o making another dime from this job. Translation: it doesn’t suck being me
Yeah, you're definitely one of those guys tagging everything they post on X with #ExAMZ or whatever to show everyone how fucking arrogant and useless you were and still are, but you're still better than everyone else because #ExAMZ.
Shit's so fucking sad.
Shit's so fucking sad.
You’re better off because your parents have money and you’re their son.