Latu guys

2022: Smalls, Martin, Trice, Lolohea, Tunuufi, Heims, Hopkins, McDonald. And this assumes the All-American, ZTF, leaves early. I dearly wish Latu didn’t have to retire. But I’m not sure I’m seeing a crisis here.

No one player is ever a crisis. But the trend is there. We're losing top-end talent and aren't replacing it with commensurate recruiting classes. We've already lost, we're just waiting to see it all materialize.

Our best team in 20 years was Browning and a bunch of 3 stars

Relax
Virta Vea was a 3-star but you already knew that.

As was Sydney Jones, Kevin King, Gaines, both ILB, Pettis, Gaskin...

Many of those guys are in or had their cup off coffee in the NFL. They were underrated talents.

Unless someone can point to all the underrated 3* guys Jimmy is signing who are future draft picks, they shouldn't point to that as evidence in this argument.

Yeah we were never going to luck into that amount of talent ever again recruiting against Boise State and Utah. Even with CP's documented history of turning Boise State players into NFL draft picks he had never had a class anywhere close to his transition class at UW (that was somehow put together in two months.)

That was the whole reason why he needed to "level up" his recruiting and beat out Oregon, USC, Oklahoma, Notre Dame for recruits- to maintain that level of success.

Also attrition always happens. That is why you stack classes. My quick count says 6/20, 4/23, and 2/24 guys have transferred out of 2018-2020. Might have missed some but I am pretty sure that is still below average attrition. We've also compensated somewhat by hitting the portal.
 
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2022: Smalls, Martin, Trice, Lolohea, Tunuufi, Heims, Hopkins, McDonald. And this assumes the All-American, ZTF, leaves early. I dearly wish Latu didn’t have to retire. But I’m not sure I’m seeing a crisis here.

No one player is ever a crisis. But the trend is there. We're losing top-end talent and aren't replacing it with commensurate recruiting classes. We've already lost, we're just waiting to see it all materialize.

Our best team in 20 years was Browning and a bunch of 3 stars

Relax
Virta Vea was a 3-star but you already knew that.

As was Sydney Jones, Kevin King, Gaines, both ILB, Pettis, Gaskin...

Many of those guys are in or had their cup off coffee in the NFL. They were underrated talents.

Unless someone can point to all the underrated 3* guys Jimmy is signing who are future draft picks, they shouldn't point to that as evidence in this argument.

*until

It may surprise you to know that I actually love that answer.
 
This really sucks and I feel for the kid

That being said, he was a doog legend. Had potential in run stopping as a frosh but that's all we really know. We are fairly deep at t[/b]hat position.

Wut? We have like one AA at that position the rest suck

The OLB Should still be solid to good. There is depth and it's a year older. Guys improve.

Still brutal.

wow u guys are fucking optimistic
 
This really sucks and I feel for the kid

That being said, he was a doog legend. Had potential in run stopping as a frosh but that's all we really know. We are fairly deep at t[/b]hat position.

Wut? We have like one AA at that position the rest suck

The OLB Should still be solid to good. There is depth and it's a year older. Guys improve.

Still brutal.
Smalls will be good. Bowman is quality depth. We added Martin. Trice hasn't portalled yet that I recall.[/b]

They should be good this year.

2022 with no ZTF or Bowman could be a little scary.

Trice finally up an extra 15lbs. He's 6'4" 255 now. If he sees the field at all this year I would be encouraged with his development. Flashing as a RS soph and playing regularly as a RS junior would be fine for a kid who we knew needed time to gain weight. Just need to see that flash.

Could be wrong but with the way last year went didn’t that effectively pause everybody’s clocks?
 
This really sucks and I feel for the kid

That being said, he was a doog legend. Had potential in run stopping as a frosh but that's all we really know. We are fairly deep at t[/b]hat position.

Wut? We have like one AA at that position the rest suck

The OLB Should still be solid to good. There is depth and it's a year older. Guys improve.

Still brutal.

wow u guys are fucking optimistic

ZTF balled out. Bowman has always been more than solid. Smalls has big time potential. Those three and Martin make a decent group. They could even be special.
 

2022: Smalls, Martin, Trice, Lolohea, Tunuufi, Heims, Hopkins, McDonald. And this assumes the All-American, ZTF, leaves early. I dearly wish Latu didn’t have to retire. But I’m not sure I’m seeing a crisis here.

No one player is ever a crisis. But the trend is there. We're losing top-end talent and aren't replacing it with commensurate recruiting classes. We've already lost, we're just waiting to see it all materialize.

Our best team in 20 years was Browning and a bunch of 3 stars

Relax

And our higher rated classes have produced much worse teams since then. What are we relaxing about?
 
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This really sucks and I feel for the kid

That being said, he was a doog legend. Had potential in run stopping as a frosh but that's all we really know. We are fairly deep at t[/b]hat position.

Wut? We have like one AA at that position the rest suck

The OLB Should still be solid to good. There is depth and it's a year older. Guys improve.

Still brutal.

wow u guys are fucking optimistic

ZTF balled out. Bowman has always been more than solid. Smalls has big time potential. Those three and Martin make a decent group. They could even be special.

I think Martin might be a bust. We have like 3 or 4 guys. Depth is pretty low.
 
This really sucks and I feel for the kid

That being said, he was a doog legend. Had potential in run stopping as a frosh but that's all we really know. We are fairly deep at t[/b]hat position.

Wut? We have like one AA at that position the rest suck

The OLB Should still be solid to good. There is depth and it's a year older. Guys improve.

Still brutal.
Smalls will be good. Bowman is quality depth. We added Martin. Trice hasn't portalled yet that I recall.[/b]

They should be good this year.

2022 with no ZTF or Bowman could be a little scary.

Trice finally up an extra 15lbs. He's 6'4" 255 now. If he sees the field at all this year I would be encouraged with his development. Flashing as a RS soph and playing regularly as a RS junior would be fine for a kid who we knew needed time to gain weight. Just need to see that flash.

Could be wrong but with the way last year went didn’t that effectively pause everybody’s clocks?

You are correct. I'm just of a mind that barring injury if a kid gets a positive draft grade in his fifth year he probably isn't coming back for a sixth so I just ran with the traditional clock.
 
This really sucks and I feel for the kid

That being said, he was a doog legend. Had potential in run stopping as a frosh but that's all we really know. We are fairly deep at t[/b]hat position.

Wut? We have like one AA at that position the rest suck

The OLB Should still be solid to good. There is depth and it's a year older. Guys improve.

Still brutal.

wow u guys are fucking optimistic

ZTF balled out. Bowman has always been more than solid. Smalls has big time potential. Those three and Martin make a decent group. They could even be special.

I think Martin might be a bust. We have like 3 or 4 guys. Depth is pretty low.

As @TTJ noted 2022 isn't as thin as I was thinking: Smalls, Martin, Trice, Lolohea, Tunuufi, Heims, Hopkins, McDonald. Plus Bruener.

And 2021 is obviously far deeper than that.

Lolohea could be a real difference maker, I'm excited to see the 22 year old freshman.
 
This really sucks and I feel for the kid

That being said, he was a doog legend. Had potential in run stopping as a frosh but that's all we really know. We are fairly deep at t[/b]hat position.

Wut? We have like one AA at that position the rest suck

The OLB Should still be solid to good. There is depth and it's a year older. Guys improve.

Still brutal.
Smalls will be good. Bowman is quality depth. We added Martin. Trice hasn't portalled yet that I recall.[/b]

They should be good this year.

2022 with no ZTF or Bowman could be a little scary.

Trice finally up an extra 15lbs. He's 6'4" 255 now. If he sees the field at all this year I would be encouraged with his development. Flashing as a RS soph and playing regularly as a RS junior would be fine for a kid who we knew needed time to gain weight. Just need to see that flash.

Could be wrong but with the way last year went didn’t that effectively pause everybody’s clocks?

You are correct. I'm just of a mind that barring injury if a kid gets a positive draft grade in his fifth year he probably isn't coming back for a sixth so I just ran with the traditional clock.

Agree
 
This really sucks and I feel for the kid

That being said, he was a doog legend. Had potential in run stopping as a frosh but that's all we really know. We are fairly deep at t[/b]hat position.

Wut? We have like one AA at that position the rest suck

The OLB Should still be solid to good. There is depth and it's a year older. Guys improve.

Still brutal.

wow u guys are fucking optimistic

ZTF balled out. Bowman has always been more than solid. Smalls has big time potential. Those three and Martin make a decent group. They could even be special.

I think Martin might be a bust. We have like 3 or 4 guys. Depth is pretty low.

As @TTJ noted 2022 isn't as thin as I was thinking: Smalls, Martin, Trice, Lolohea, Tunuufi, Heims, Hopkins, McDonald. Plus Bruener.

And 2021 is obviously far deeper than that.

Lolohea could be a real difference maker, I'm excited to see the 22 year old freshman.

I think Lolohea going to good but he is going to play on the inside
 
2022: Smalls, Martin, Trice, Lolohea, Tunuufi, Heims, Hopkins, McDonald. And this assumes the All-American, ZTF, leaves early. I dearly wish Latu didn’t have to retire. But I’m not sure I’m seeing a crisis here.

No one player is ever a crisis. But the trend is there. We're losing top-end talent and aren't replacing it with commensurate recruiting classes. We've already lost, we're just waiting to see it all materialize.

Our best team in 20 years was Browning and a bunch of 3 stars

Relax

And our higher rated classes have produced much worse teams since then. What are we relaxing about?

Petersen being gone
 
This really sucks and I feel for the kid

That being said, he was a doog legend. Had potential in run stopping as a frosh but that's all we really know. We are fairly deep at t[/b]hat position.

Wut? We have like one AA at that position the rest suck

The OLB Should still be solid to good. There is depth and it's a year older. Guys improve.

Still brutal.

wow u guys are fucking optimistic

ZTF balled out. Bowman has always been more than solid. Smalls has big time potential. Those three and Martin make a decent group. They could even be special.

We all thought Mathis was special for 2-4 games so I'm going to doog for this group.

That's a sick unit in any conference.
 
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This really sucks and I feel for the kid

That being said, he was a doog legend. Had potential in run stopping as a frosh but that's all we really know. We are fairly deep at t[/b]hat position.

Wut? We have like one AA at that position the rest suck

The OLB Should still be solid to good. There is depth and it's a year older. Guys improve.

Still brutal.
Smalls will be good. Bowman is quality depth. We added Martin. Trice hasn't portalled yet that I recall.[/b]

They should be good this year.

2022 with no ZTF or Bowman could be a little scary.

Hmmmmm
https://twitter.com/mikevorel/status/1380582609546223619?s=20
 
This really sucks and I feel for the kid

That being said, he was a doog legend. Had potential in run stopping as a frosh but that's all we really know. We are fairly deep at t[/b]hat position.

Wut? We have like one AA at that position the rest suck

The OLB Should still be solid to good. There is depth and it's a year older. Guys improve.

Still brutal.
Smalls will be good. Bowman is quality depth. We added Martin. Trice hasn't portalled yet that I recall.[/b]

They should be good this year.

2022 with no ZTF or Bowman could be a little scary.

Hmmmmm
https://twitter.com/mikevorel/status/1380582609546223619?s=20

shades of James Atoe top 5 draft pick
 
This really sucks and I feel for the kid

That being said, he was a doog legend. Had potential in run stopping as a frosh but that's all we really know. We are fairly deep at t[/b]hat position.

Wut? We have like one AA at that position the rest suck

The OLB Should still be solid to good. There is depth and it's a year older. Guys improve.

Still brutal.
Smalls will be good. Bowman is quality depth. We added Martin. Trice hasn't portalled yet that I recall.[/b]

They should be good this year.

2022 with no ZTF or Bowman could be a little scary.

Hmmmmm
https://twitter.com/mikevorel/status/1380582609546223619?s=20

He had an Alabama offer out of high school. I think this guy has a similar body type to Tryon and, coming out of high school, was much more coordinated.
 
This really sucks and I feel for the kid

That being said, he was a doog legend. Had potential in run stopping as a frosh but that's all we really know. We are fairly deep at t[/b]hat position.

Wut? We have like one AA at that position the rest suck

The OLB Should still be solid to good. There is depth and it's a year older. Guys improve.

Still brutal.
Smalls will be good. Bowman is quality depth. We added Martin. Trice hasn't portalled yet that I recall.[/b]

They should be good this year.

2022 with no ZTF or Bowman could be a little scary.

Hmmmmm
https://twitter.com/mikevorel/status/1380582609546223619?s=20

shades of James Atoe top 5 draft pick

Fuck your 17 minutes. In that other thread...
 
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