How the PAC12 Recruiting Breaks Down

Not related to my point at all.

Moreover I don't see the logic of shitting on 4star RBs at UW that are 5'10 ish 180 by pointing to two Oregon 4star RBs that are 5'10ish 180? They are all the same players, only difference is how fat people ranked them.
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I just don't see Gaskin (5' 9"/185/4.5) as an every-down back in UW's offense. Part of why the scat guys do well at UO is the way we spread the field. From what I've seen of Peterman, he likes to have a bigger back to open up the middle of the field from either a shotgun or a pro-style under-center set. IMO Warren was a big miss for UW.

I was also responding your comment on the UO in that "Doogs > Quooks" when we landed three top 10 APB-type prospects. Both UO and UW did really well on the lines. UO got possibly the #1 DL in the country.
 
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Gaskin and McClatcher look the type of RBs that Chip took in the late 2000s which pulled them out of Belottis regression. LaMichael James, Barner, etc.

With recruiting, I think if you get The QB right and you keep OL/DL pipeline full. That's 90% of the battle. I think Doogs > Quooks in that regard this class. Although I caveat that Waller has a very good chance to develop into a better QB than Browning, but probably not within the next two years.
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You might be right, and this is the first class in a long time when UW got offensive linemen that I'd want for Oregon. But at the same time, here's how Rivals ranks the tackles in this class:

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The caveat to this list is that Okun is the highest rated Oregon lineman across the board and the only remaining commit who was offered by both Oregon and UW, and Oregon still has Hanson and Aiello to Washington's Hilgard. Offensive line recruiting is a numbers game more than anything because injuries that diminish skill sets are high at the position. I'll take what Oregon did there over Washington for that reason.
 
Not related to my point at all.

Moreover I don't see the logic of shitting on 4star RBs at UW that are 5'10 ish 180 by pointing to two Oregon 4star RBs that are 5'10ish 180? They are all the same players, only difference is how fat people ranked them.
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I just don't see Gaskin (5' 9"/185/4.5) as an every-down back in UW's offense. Part of why the scat guys do well at UO is the way we spread the field. From what I've seen of Peterman, he likes to have a bigger back to open up the middle of the field from either a shotgun or a pro-style under-center set. IMO Warren was a big miss for UW.

I was also responding your comment on the UO in that "Doogs > Quooks" when we landed three top 10 APB-type prospects. Both UO and UW did really well on the lines. UO got possibly the #1 DL in the country.
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Gaskin is 5'9" 195. He will be over 200 soon. He's plenty big to be an every down back. Petersen hasn't had an under center offense for a few years now.
 
Gaskin and McClatcher look the type of RBs that Chip took in the late 2000s which pulled them out of Belottis regression. LaMichael James, Barner, etc.

With recruiting, I think if you get The QB right and you keep OL/DL pipeline full. That's 90% of the battle. I think Doogs > Quooks in that regard this class. Although I caveat that Waller has a very good chance to develop into a better QB than Browning, but probably not within the next two years.
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You might be right, and this is the first class in a long time when UW got offensive linemen that I'd want for Oregon. But at the same time, here's how Rivals ranks the tackles in this class:

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The caveat to this list is that Okun is the highest rated Oregon lineman across the board and the only remaining commit who was offered by both Oregon and UW, and Oregon still has Hanson and Aiello to Washington's Hilgard. Offensive line recruiting is a numbers game more than anything because injuries that diminish skill sets are high at the position. I'll take what Oregon did there over Washington for that reason.
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I'm rivals and I like to rank linemen who didn't even get an offer from the in-state school over linemen with offers from the entire pac-12 who were Army All-American selections. I like to do that.
 
Gaskin and McClatcher look the type of RBs that Chip took in the late 2000s which pulled them out of Belottis regression. LaMichael James, Barner, etc.

With recruiting, I think if you get The QB right and you keep OL/DL pipeline full. That's 90% of the battle. I think Doogs > Quooks in that regard this class. Although I caveat that Waller has a very good chance to develop into a better QB than Browning, but probably not within the next two years.
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You might be right, and this is the first class in a long time when UW got offensive linemen that I'd want for Oregon. But at the same time, here's how Rivals ranks the tackles in this class:

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The caveat to this list is that Okun is the highest rated Oregon lineman across the board and the only remaining commit who was offered by both Oregon and UW, and Oregon still has Hanson and Aiello to Washington's Hilgard. Offensive line recruiting is a numbers game more than anything because injuries that diminish skill sets are high at the position. I'll take what Oregon did there over Washington for that reason.
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I'm rivals and I like to rank linemen who didn't even get an offer from the in-state school over linemen with offers from the entire pac-12 who were Army All-American selections. I like to do that.
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Wow, what a fucking dreck of a list.

What I think is even more appalling than the Washington State OTs is that they have Chidi Valentine-Okeke as the 38th best OT in the country. What the fuck.

Kid is a consensus Top 100 recruit. The other recruiting services have him at 7th best OT, 6th best OT and 2nd best OT. Rivals says 38th. Fuck Rivals.
 
I'm rivals and I like to rank linemen who didn't even get an offer from the in-state school over linemen with offers from the entire pac-12 who were Army All-American selections. I like to do that.
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Fine, then we'll use ESPN's ratings and place Adams first. But then it's Hanson in second four spots behind him and it's Lemieux, Roberts and Aiello in a virtual dead heat in the mid-50s.

But that gets away from the point that you've got 8 kids who, with the possible exception of Okun, will be tasked with lifting weights and consuming 6000 calories a day. The only reason Okun gets a pass is that he has a six-month head start in doing that. And by the time we get to the more important rerank in 2020, there are going to be a lot of blown knees in that group.
 
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