CheersWestDawg chimes in with thoughts on the Seattle-area coverage of Husky Football.
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Hardcore Husky and the Beginning of the Chris Petersen Era
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CheersWestDawg chimes in with thoughts on the Seattle-area coverage of Husky Football.
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Couple of points: The 2001 and 2002 Rick teams were obviously softer than the 2000 team. But Cody Pickett was a tough SOB. Playing half of the season with a separated throwing shoulder?
"Those who defended and thought highly of Willingham throughout his tenure were rightfully mocked, ridiculed, and forever marginalized."
I dunno about that. The national media defended Willingham through year 3 and insisted he would turn it around. Michael Wilbon and John Feinstein off the top of my head. When we got the extra proof of Owen12 that Willingham sucked those commentators just said "well, he couldn't get it done" and moved on to their next Hot Take. Fuck them.
"Those who defended and thought highly of Willingham throughout his tenure were rightfully mocked, ridiculed, and forever marginalized."
I dunno about that. The national media defended Willingham through year 3 and insisted he would turn it around. Michael Wilbon and John Feinstein off the top of my head. When we got the extra proof of Owen12 that Willingham sucked those commentators just said "well, he couldn't get it done" and moved on to their next Hot Take. Fuck them.
I do remember when Willingham was halfway through the 0-12 nightmare season, Kelly Stouffer did color commentary with Kevin Calaboro, and Stouffer said what was wrong with letting this man continue the job he was brought to Washington to do?
Very good article. I didn't like Sark at USC, and often wondered why their offense wasn't better. but was in wait and see mode with him at UW. I thought he would at least be a great recruiter, work hard, and he seemed like a bright guy who would self critique and improve his weaknesses. In his first year, I still thought those things, despite the Notre Dame and UCLA games.
Over time, it was obvious Sark was a lazy recruiter and his in state efforts are well known by now. His coaching never improved, and some of the fire his teams played with in 2009 had gone away. His teams played nervous any time we played a good opponent on the road and folded at the first sign of adversity. They thumped their chest and whooped it up beating up on Portland State. He and his teams wanted all the accolades without putting in the necessary work.
Over time, it was obvious Sark was a lazy recruiter and his in state efforts are well known by now. His coaching never improved, and some of the fire his teams played with in 2009 had gone away. His teams played nervous any time we played a good opponent on the road and folded at the first sign of adversity. They thumped their chest and whooped it up beating up on Portland State. He and his teams wanted all the accolades without putting in the necessary work.
TierbsHsotBoobs
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TL, DR
ApostleofGrief
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Good write up. I have always ridiculed fans' attempts to restore the Don James era, which happened both with Gilby and Coach Willingham, fighting off the last bender here with some foaming at the mouth to get that UCLA coach.
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ThomasFremont
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I felt like the fan base was more divided under Sark than even Willingham. I think in large part because those who were against Willingham were less patient in hearing the same bullshit from the Doogs during the Sark era. That is also when Doogman started to made Nazi Germany seem like a fair and balanced country with them running any poster who questioned Sark at all.
I felt Sark's best coaching job was his first two years and his program never improved off that. Although being a QB "expert" and having Lockner regress under him was my first red flag this guy was in over his head. Also to RoadDawg's point I felt like every big USC loss it was typically when their offense would inexplicably throw the ball 45+ times and refuse to run the ball despite having an amazing line and run game under Sark as OC.
It is funny though the Sark fans that I know are now saying "We better hope Petersen is that 92-12 guy and not like Ty Willingham" when with Sark it was overwhelming support. Even them saying there was a "buzz" with Sark not with Petersen despite ticket sales, merchandise saying differently. Then when you bring that up you always get "but 0-12".
I felt Sark's best coaching job was his first two years and his program never improved off that. Although being a QB "expert" and having Lockner regress under him was my first red flag this guy was in over his head. Also to RoadDawg's point I felt like every big USC loss it was typically when their offense would inexplicably throw the ball 45+ times and refuse to run the ball despite having an amazing line and run game under Sark as OC.
It is funny though the Sark fans that I know are now saying "We better hope Petersen is that 92-12 guy and not like Ty Willingham" when with Sark it was overwhelming support. Even them saying there was a "buzz" with Sark not with Petersen despite ticket sales, merchandise saying differently. Then when you bring that up you always get "but 0-12".
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doogsinparadise
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Who is CheersWestDawg, does he poast here?
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BennyBeaver
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So CheersWedt is another Tequila user name?
PostGameOrangeSlices
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intro was tl,dr jesus christ. any uw fan should know all that already.
Gladstone
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Excellent article. The damage that the media goons did in fostering and then continuing the wanton mediocrity that condemned our program to damnation should not be forgotten. Nor forgiven. There are no greater enemies of the program. Do not pay the Scout.com guys. Do not subscribe to a blog written by a lazy Lynnwooder who openly cheers for a rival team. Don't listen to KJR and enable polyannas like Softy.
At least here, despite the dearth of class amongst some posters, we have only one agenda: wins.
At least here, despite the dearth of class amongst some posters, we have only one agenda: wins.
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I remember that too. What a dipshit. He thought he needed the full five years. That only works when there's some sign of progress.
I yelled at the TV "I would like to see you say that if he was your fucking coach!!"
BennyBeaver
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He must be paid by the word.
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Sark brought back some sizzle to the program that needed some sizzle ... problem was that by Year 3, the sizzle wasn't enough and people expected checks to be cashed and the checks weren't getting cashed.
It's been beat to death as often as Kim beats a banana, but Sark's proven himself over time of moving up the job ladder without putting the work in to become a master at what it is that he was hired to do. You can get away with that charade for so long, but at some point, there's not another ladder to go up. He'll either get exposed at USC or he'll end up jumping to the NFL and then getting exposed there.
The reason that those that are smart are excited about Petersen is because he's put in the hard work, he's put in the sweat, he's said his prayers and ate his vitamins brother. You have someone that has a belief in the way to get things done, has had success with it, and has a staff and laundry list of former players that swear by what he does. Results matter and he's got the results to prove that whatever it is that he does works.
One thing that I was in a way disappointed wasn't touched on during the article was the whining and crying about Petersen's assistant coaches and how they aren't upwardly mobile like Wilcox in the sense that he's priming to be a head coach. Petersen's assistants seem perfectly fine with hitching their coaching wagon to him with the job stability that that includes and taking on challenges.
Not everybody is a future head coach. Some realize that that's just not their cup of tea. Gilby was a shitty head coach. I'd hire him every single day of the week to coach the OL or even be a OC. Getting a coaching staff that meshes together, has everybody's back, and works towards a common goal is just as important as it is to have 85 players doing the same.
It's been beat to death as often as Kim beats a banana, but Sark's proven himself over time of moving up the job ladder without putting the work in to become a master at what it is that he was hired to do. You can get away with that charade for so long, but at some point, there's not another ladder to go up. He'll either get exposed at USC or he'll end up jumping to the NFL and then getting exposed there.
The reason that those that are smart are excited about Petersen is because he's put in the hard work, he's put in the sweat, he's said his prayers and ate his vitamins brother. You have someone that has a belief in the way to get things done, has had success with it, and has a staff and laundry list of former players that swear by what he does. Results matter and he's got the results to prove that whatever it is that he does works.
One thing that I was in a way disappointed wasn't touched on during the article was the whining and crying about Petersen's assistant coaches and how they aren't upwardly mobile like Wilcox in the sense that he's priming to be a head coach. Petersen's assistants seem perfectly fine with hitching their coaching wagon to him with the job stability that that includes and taking on challenges.
Not everybody is a future head coach. Some realize that that's just not their cup of tea. Gilby was a shitty head coach. I'd hire him every single day of the week to coach the OL or even be a OC. Getting a coaching staff that meshes together, has everybody's back, and works towards a common goal is just as important as it is to have 85 players doing the same.
