Hand in the dirt - WTF

[sinceredawg]

I never played team football. But it's often mentioned, when talking about DL schemes, that a lineman on the edge is either standing up or hand-down. This distinction is mentioned so often that you'd think it's really fucking relevant.

How is it relevant? Is there some rule about it? Is it just a matter or leverage vs. speed from a starting stance? Why is this mentioned like it's got big implications?

 

[RaceBannon]

A lineman with his hand in the dirt can knock your dick into the dirt

 

[Swaye]

A lineman with his hand in the dirt can knock your dick into the dirt

Dicks. Dirt. This checks out.

 

[chuck]

Real dirt dwags want their hand in the dirt.

 

[GrundleStiltzkin]

I never played team football. But it's often mentioned, when talking about DL schemes, that a lineman on the edge is either standing up or hand-down. This distinction is mentioned so often that you'd think it's really fucking relevant.

How is it relevant? Is there some rule about it? Is it just a matter or leverage vs. speed from a starting stance? Why is this mentioned like it's got big implications?

Despite it being Malarkey Day (hai @PurpleBaze !!), the difference is a function of situation, scheme, and personnel. In simplest terms, standup DL is going to be more of a OLB guym rushing passer and flat contain. @HandInDirtDWAG typically a traditional DE guym with run contain first, pass rush second.

Those distinctions have blurred enough the last quarter-decade to be far less relevant. Coach K often bumped out a big guym to standup in certain situations to play the scheme with same personnel. And vice versa. But that's the prototype.

 

[PurpleBaze]

I never played team football. But it's often mentioned, when talking about DL schemes, that a lineman on the edge is either standing up or hand-down. This distinction is mentioned so often that you'd think it's really fucking relevant.

How is it relevant? Is there some rule about it? Is it just a matter or leverage vs. speed from a starting stance? Why is this mentioned like it's got big implications?

Despite it being Malarkey Day (hai @PurpleBaze !!), the difference is a function of situation, scheme, and personnel. In simplest terms, standup DL is going to be more of a OLB guym rushing passer and flat contain. @HandInDirtDWAG typically a traditional DE guym with run contain first, pass rush second.

Those distinctions have blurred enough the last quarter-decade to be far less relevant. Coach K often bumped out a big guym to standup in certain situations to play the scheme with same personnel. And vice versa. But that's the prototype.

Hand in dirt superiority guym...

 

[GrundleStiltzkin]

I never played team football. But it's often mentioned, when talking about DL schemes, that a lineman on the edge is either standing up or hand-down. This distinction is mentioned so often that you'd think it's really fucking relevant.

How is it relevant? Is there some rule about it? Is it just a matter or leverage vs. speed from a starting stance? Why is this mentioned like it's got big implications?

Despite it being Malarkey Day (hai @PurpleBaze !!), the difference is a function of situation, scheme, and personnel. In simplest terms, standup DL is going to be more of a OLB guym rushing passer and flat contain. @HandInDirtDWAG typically a traditional DE guym with run contain first, pass rush second.

Those distinctions have blurred enough the last quarter-decade to be far less relevant. Coach K often bumped out a big guym to standup in certain situations to play the scheme with same personnel. And vice versa. But that's the prototype.

Quick example, 5-2, outside guys hand in dirt. 3-4, outside are stand-up. Generally.

 

[whatshouldicareabout]

I never played team football. But it's often mentioned, when talking about DL schemes, that a lineman on the edge is either standing up or hand-down. This distinction is mentioned so often that you'd think it's really fucking relevant.

How is it relevant? Is there some rule about it? Is it just a matter or leverage vs. speed from a starting stance? Why is this mentioned like it's got big implications?

Despite it being Malarkey Day (hai @PurpleBaze !!), the difference is a function of situation, scheme, and personnel. In simplest terms, standup DL is going to be more of a OLB guym rushing passer and flat contain. @HandInDirtDWAG typically a traditional DE guym with run contain first, pass rush second.

Those distinctions have blurred enough the last quarter-decade to be far less relevant. Coach K often bumped out a big guym to standup in certain situations to play the scheme with same personnel. And vice versa. But that's the prototype.

Quick example, 5-2, outside guys hand in dirt. 3-4, outside are stand-up. Generally.

May also depend on the gap assignment, scheme/stunts, and personnel they're matching up again.

 

[1to392831weretaken]

If your hand is in the dirt, there's nowhere (at least efficiently) to go but forward. A stand-up end/OLB can drop, get wide, etc. more efficiently.