Fleens takes a stand on Romar

Both Utah and Oregon State just built new basketball specific facilities, and both have pretty good classes coming in. Kentucky built an amazing one a few years ago. Other schools are doing it too. This should have been done years ago. Even Wazzu has a hoops specific facility. Building a facility tells recruits you are investing in hoops, regardless of the coach.
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Winning is what tells recruits you are invested in the BB program. And as long as romar is the coach, the likelihood of that happening ain't very high.
 
Both Utah and Oregon State just built new basketball specific facilities, and both have pretty good classes coming in. Kentucky built an amazing one a few years ago. Other schools are doing it too. This should have been done years ago. Even Wazzu has a hoops specific facility. Building a facility tells recruits you are investing in hoops, regardless of the coach.
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Again, we're already recruiting at an elite level, so this point is moot mute.
 
If recruiting is already phenomenal, but player development is shitty, then I don't see how a players lounge will improve UW basketball,
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Can't you see that when players have a lounge to relax in it helps the edgy recruits play loose?
 
Not here to defend the merits of Romar as a coach, person, etc. but, the AD really needs to build a hoops specific facility, and are currently behind the curve on this. Two sports currently generate revenue at UW, and one hasn't really been addressed in a while. The arena is nice and kept up, but a players lounge or something specific for hoops would help. It's been in talks for what feels like years, but the AD /School has a bad reputation of not striking while the iron is hot.
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We could offer hookers and blow at halftime, results will be the same. If you can't succeed with BRoy, Nate Robinson, Brock, Holliday, Qpon, Bobby Joness, Will Conroy, Etc, then you are Fuq 'd with Gilles, Kemp Jr., Andersen Andrews
 
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Again, we're already recruiting at an elite level, so this point is moot mute.
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But Romar hasn't been consistently recruiting at an elite level, and I think the current roster shows that. He has missed out on guys he spent years recruiting, for programs that actively and continually invest in their hoops programs.

 
Again, we're already recruiting at an elite level, so this point is moot mute.
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But Romar hasn't been consistently recruiting at an elite level, and I think the current roster shows that. He has missed out on guys he spent years recruiting, for programs that actively and continually invest in their hoops programs.
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Martin Breunig certainly played better than any forward Romar had on this team for the past 3 years, he 23 points plus 17 rebounds against common opponent EWU

I think DJ's point was recruiting is better than results. You can't miss the dance with Ross, Wroten Wilcox, that's just Romar FS. And the 2014 team is far better than the record suggests wiThl minimal coaching and roster management. How the Fuq do you let Desmond transfer?

 
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Romar is the best Washington can hope for.

Don't you know this is Washington. Look at his championships.

Pac-12 Regular Season Championship (2012)
Pac-10 Regular Season Championship (2009)
Pac-10 Tournament Championship (2005, 2010, 2011)

He's had 10 1st or 2nd round draft choices ... that's more than Don James!

He's made the Big Dance as the number 1 seed.

He also has a 63% winning record.

He may have gone 3-10 in the Pac this year, but he was 14-11 overall ... think about that ... he only lost one OCC game ... including a win over OU! You know what that does for NATIONAL RECRUITING! 8-1 against the likes of OU ... that's what recruits care about! Not some lounge.

You guys remind me of the talking heads in 1988 who wanted Don James fired!

Get a grip.
 
Hec-Ed isn't hoops specific but it's pretty close. Nicer amenities for recruits (player's lounge, etc) could help though.

We're stuck with Romar for next season but at least he's bringing in a good recruiting class.

2016-2017? Who knows.

 
Lots of people used a strong incoming largely local recruiting class as a reason to keep Ty for his fourth year, yet then blamed bad Ty recruiting for the reason that Sark couldn't win big...
 
Again, we're already recruiting at an elite level, so this point is moot mute.
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But Romar hasn't been consistently recruiting at an elite level, and I think the current roster shows that. He has missed out on guys he spent years recruiting, for programs that actively and continually invest in their hoops programs.
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This is a cop out. Many, many programs in the nation could be considered not the top facility and yet they are succeeding. Romar isn't losing out b/c of facilities, he's losing out b/c the team is losing. Facilities are a nice bonus but wouldn't have brought UW jabari bird/parker or gordon. UW has hit the skids thanks to massively missing on talent eval on the majority of players on the roster which is resulting in losses.

God forbid people expect a coach to not miss on 80% of his roster
 
Again, we're already recruiting at an elite level, so this point is moot mute.
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But Romar hasn't been consistently recruiting at an elite level, and I think the current roster shows that. He has missed out on guys he spent years recruiting, for programs that actively and continually invest in their hoops programs.
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When schools the caliber of Washington go 5 years without making the tourney it goes way beyond recruiting. Especially how shitass the pac12 has been since its peak in 2008/2009.

Ditto with Cal. Those two schools sit on solid recruiting grounds, have new stadiums and are attractive schools. There is no reason those two schools aren't in the tourney 3 or 4 years out of every 5.

UW has been to the dance (ILTCNTTD) 1 in the last 5 years. Cal twice. Ridiculous.
 
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