Canadawg brings up a good point that we've made for years. Why not Washington? Why is Ohio State so far ahead?
Year after fucking year. In Columbus Ohio
Year after fucking year. In Columbus Ohio
Do you think this just happens by accident?
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Not sure what the point is but Ohio State was also killing it prior to this under Tressell too. I can't think of a single thing Ohio State does or has in their foundation that is realistically replicable at the University of Washington in 2025.
They also had a coach who is the best modern coach after Saban who was from their state. Who is the best active coach from the state of Washington?
They also had a coach who is the best modern coach after Saban who was from their state. Who is the best active coach from the state of Washington?
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Kellen Moore? Yikes.
There's no reason Washington can't be Ohio State.
They have a shit ton of fans subsidizing way too many non revenue sports and are still 1a/1b to Alabama as a football brand that not even LSU and Georgia can touch right now.
One critical thing they have done is stick with that staff and Ryan Day. Many years went by with the Third Base narrative and that Ohio State was wasting talent and not a serious threat. But they stuck with their message if development and buying players from other regions and it's paying off in a big way for them. They're so much better off than Michigan right now..
They have a shit ton of fans subsidizing way too many non revenue sports and are still 1a/1b to Alabama as a football brand that not even LSU and Georgia can touch right now.
One critical thing they have done is stick with that staff and Ryan Day. Many years went by with the Third Base narrative and that Ohio State was wasting talent and not a serious threat. But they stuck with their message if development and buying players from other regions and it's paying off in a big way for them. They're so much better off than Michigan right now..
@haie has high expectations like I do
It's one thing to knock your coach for losing in the playoffs like Day was doing. You wouldn't actually fire him you'd just complain because losing sucks. Obviously worth keeping and it paid off
Which is kind of the point. They kept him
It's not about they had this guy or that guy. It's about 25 years of 1 or 2 loss seasons
Some see that and ask why. I see it and ask why not?
It's one thing to knock your coach for losing in the playoffs like Day was doing. You wouldn't actually fire him you'd just complain because losing sucks. Obviously worth keeping and it paid off
Which is kind of the point. They kept him
It's not about they had this guy or that guy. It's about 25 years of 1 or 2 loss seasons
Some see that and ask why. I see it and ask why not?
There's a difference between having high expectations and being delusional.
There's only 4 places on Mt Rushmore and UW has never been there and never will be unless Bill Gates quits being a fucking dweeb. Money, tradition, and location as they say.
The gold standard at UW is Don James level football which never was 25 years of 1 or 2 loss seasons.
There's only 4 places on Mt Rushmore and UW has never been there and never will be unless Bill Gates quits being a fucking dweeb. Money, tradition, and location as they say.
The gold standard at UW is Don James level football which never was 25 years of 1 or 2 loss seasons.
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creepycoug
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I asked Skynet and they? point out one thing they have that may not be as readily available here:
Having said that, Buck, like Michigan and like the entire SEC, feast on talent from the southeastern US. Jeremiah Smith is just one of many star Bucks from the Sunshine state and it's been going on since the 90s. If the Florida Big 3 ever regain a pulse and start keeping elite in-state talent, you could see out of state raiders like Buck slide back a bit. But probably not too much.
Washington is probably underrated a bit for the talent it produces, but I think it's fair to say you can't build a giant here on PNW talent alone. You need Cali and since other people hit Cali pretty hard you need to recruit in Texas and Florida too. You do that and you can be like Buck.
Those who know me know that I am anti-blue blood. I'm an American and as such reject monarchy and birthright. It's what attracted me to the Miami story.
So, sure, why not?
Having said that, Buck, like Michigan and like the entire SEC, feast on talent from the southeastern US. Jeremiah Smith is just one of many star Bucks from the Sunshine state and it's been going on since the 90s. If the Florida Big 3 ever regain a pulse and start keeping elite in-state talent, you could see out of state raiders like Buck slide back a bit. But probably not too much.
Washington is probably underrated a bit for the talent it produces, but I think it's fair to say you can't build a giant here on PNW talent alone. You need Cali and since other people hit Cali pretty hard you need to recruit in Texas and Florida too. You do that and you can be like Buck.
Those who know me know that I am anti-blue blood. I'm an American and as such reject monarchy and birthright. It's what attracted me to the Miami story.
So, sure, why not?
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How many teams have as many conference championships or playoff appearances in the past decade as UW? The difference between elite teams and the next 20 is consistency. Bama doesn't win the NC every year but they put themselves in a position to by having great recruiting and being in the playoff nearly every year.
Washington needs to be top 15 in the nonsense recruiting numbers and become the pillar of westcoast football year in and year out. Seasons like last year can't happen and if they do they need to immediately get back to 10+ wins with wins over top teams that signals to the 16 year olds that UW exemplifies consistent great seasons with elite seasons being up to them and how much they want to lift.
So much of sports is playing the odds. The best team doesn't win it every year but if you buy more tickets you have a better chance of winning.
We? seem to be hitting Washington, California, and Arizona hard.
For me when I see real recruiting hussle and results, and then those guys are so good that we're already trying to play them now?
It's hard to square that with how much of a fucking retard Jedd is on Saturdays this year. Cannot compute.
For me when I see real recruiting hussle and results, and then those guys are so good that we're already trying to play them now?
It's hard to square that with how much of a fucking retard Jedd is on Saturdays this year. Cannot compute.
Day has almost put on a better performance than Lanning in convincing hard working ultra talented kids that his program is a culture one and that they're adopted sons of Ohio.
Put me in front of these kids and I'll have them drinking Rainier like water camping in the crater of Mt St Helens.
Jedd probably sucks ass at that aspect. "Mobile culture" at any campus without State pride is gay. And retarded.
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Wasted time looking into this. Doug Pederson is the answer of guys still in coaching age and pedigree. If we're just going college connected guys and ones we're talking Kirby (Kellen hasn't coached college) Moore and the guy at Idaho who I've heard nothing but bad things about him and his brother.
Can't think of a single reasonable guy with an actual connection to the program, from WA or not.
Love you all but I don't see this at all for so many reasons. As Coug did sadly AI actually has a great answer but I'll spare everyone that. If we're talking Big 10 programs, Michigan is much more the comparable one to UW and they are in a similar place after getting a great run from a hall of fame coach who turned their tide of mediocrity and struggle against their below state rival who is much more set up for college football in this millennium.
A title for UW looks more like Michigan's, complete with autistic guys, but Ohio State's machine doesn't at all look like a product of things that UW can't mostly do.
They have no whale(s) it is literally a chud army wage garnishment thing.
I know. I still don't exactly understand the context but my thought was that even with all their other advantaged, Ohio State, got a generational boost by having a GOAT coach from their home state and I can't remember exactly but I'm assuming it's part of why he ended up there. Saban was a different time/world.
creepycoug
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I should pay you a service charge for the times a day you crack me the fuck up.
A "chud army wage garnishment thing". I laffed.
creepycoug
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High expectations are good but the other reason it's hard to be Buck is that Buck is already Buck. CFB world says, "we already have one of those". Consider:
They kill us? in some meaningful categories. So, sure, the past is the past, but their past makes it a bit easier to build and maintain the things you need to stay on top.
If you're talking to a recruit and he isn't some home grown "always wanted to be a Husky", and they're looking at these two resumes, it's hard to say no to flyover.
They kill us? in some meaningful categories. So, sure, the past is the past, but their past makes it a bit easier to build and maintain the things you need to stay on top.
If you're talking to a recruit and he isn't some home grown "always wanted to be a Husky", and they're looking at these two resumes, it's hard to say no to flyover.
creepycoug
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Just sayin … it's hard. It's hard.