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Just a thred to share the various information channels I use to watch the CCP. In case you didn't know I've lived overseas at various points and still have frends in Hong Kong and one still hopefully in Shanghai...

Above is a decent primer. He gives the CCP 15 years but he himself admits it's hard to see inside. I personally take the under but who knows, they could go the route of North Korea and just endure poverty and isolation for 100 years.

Other obvious good channels are China uncensored and advchina. There's a handful of others I'll post as I go.
 
Just a thred to share the various information channels I use to watch the CCP. In case you didn't know I've lived overseas at various points and still have frends in Hong Kong and one still hopefully in Shanghai...

Above is a decent primer. He gives the CCP 15 years but he himself admits it's hard to see inside. I personally take the under but who knows, they could go the route of North Korea and just endure poverty and isolation for 100 years.

Other obvious good channels are China uncensored and advchina. There's a handful of others I'll post as I go.
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Regarding channels ...

I was going to ask about China Uncensored then saw it in the last sentence. I think it is a good resource for info. However, I have a friend stateside who cried misinformation. (He naively married a Chinese woman who's a fucking disaster, but I digress.) I still like it despite his protestations.

Also, what do you think about Epoch Times? I was lead to believe they got started in HK as a means to combat the CCP? (I could be totally wrong) I also like their content a lot. A different buddy, claims to have written papers in college about them being CCP-disinformation. Based on the materials I've consumed, I can't fathom that to be true, but still ...

I'll take your answers off-air.

 
Just a thred to share the various information channels I use to watch the CCP. In case you didn't know I've lived overseas at various points and still have frends in Hong Kong and one still hopefully in Shanghai...

Above is a decent primer. He gives the CCP 15 years but he himself admits it's hard to see inside. I personally take the under but who knows, they could go the route of North Korea and just endure poverty and isolation for 100 years.

Other obvious good channels are China uncensored and advchina. There's a handful of others I'll post as I go.
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I see that someone else has been greenpilledhttps://hardcorehusky.com/discussions/tagged/pete-carroll-gave-us-coronavirus
 
Just a thred to share the various information channels I use to watch the CCP. In case you didn't know I've lived overseas at various points and still have frends in Hong Kong and one still hopefully in Shanghai...

Above is a decent primer. He gives the CCP 15 years but he himself admits it's hard to see inside. I personally take the under but who knows, they could go the route of North Korea and just endure poverty and isolation for 100 years.

Other obvious good channels are China uncensored and advchina. There's a handful of others I'll post as I go.
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Regarding channels ...

I was going to ask about China Uncensored then saw it in the last sentence. I think it is a good resource for info. However, I have a friend stateside who cried misinformation. (He naively married a Chinese woman who's a fucking disaster, but I digress.) I still like it despite his protestations.

Also, what do you think about Epoch Times? I was lead to believe they got started in HK as a means to combat the CCP? (I could be totally wrong) I also like their content a lot. A different buddy, claims to have written papers in college about them being CCP-disinformation. Based on the materials I've consumed, I can't fathom that to be true, but still ...

I'll take your answers off-air.
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China Uncensored is on point *mostly. They suffer from the constraints of being stateside and having their anti CCP bias but that doesn't mean they are wrong. Just shall we say, optimistic at times reading the tea leaves when they venture into opinions. They generally are honest about disclosing that though. Hence, any nationalist, mainlander, or sympathizer is going to hate them with a fiery passion.

Epoch Times is indeed HK which is why you will hear both sides accusing them of disinformation. And it's to some degree true. They are anti CCP but also inextricably tied to them and plenty of HK big money so you will see a "China centric" bias at times.

I'm still trying to decide about Epoch Times newfound foothold in the US and who is pushing that.

Similarly the South China Morning Post can be useful if you understand their bias. Same goes for Taiwanese sources or dissident sources.

China watching is a lot like Economics, it's a dismal science of trying to pull correct info out of a lot of imperfect sources.
 
Just a thred to share the various information channels I use to watch the CCP. In case you didn't know I've lived overseas at various points and still have frends in Hong Kong and one still hopefully in Shanghai...

Above is a decent primer. He gives the CCP 15 years but he himself admits it's hard to see inside. I personally take the under but who knows, they could go the route of North Korea and just endure poverty and isolation for 100 years.

Other obvious good channels are China uncensored and advchina. There's a handful of others I'll post as I go.
Click to expand...

Regarding channels ...

I was going to ask about China Uncensored then saw it in the last sentence. I think it is a good resource for info. However, I have a friend stateside who cried misinformation. (He naively married a Chinese woman who's a fucking disaster, but I digress.) I still like it despite his protestations.

Also, what do you think about Epoch Times? I was lead to believe they got started in HK as a means to combat the CCP? (I could be totally wrong) I also like their content a lot. A different buddy, claims to have written papers in college about them being CCP-disinformation. Based on the materials I've consumed, I can't fathom that to be true, but still ...

I'll take your answers off-air.
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China Uncensored is on point *mostly. They suffer from the constraints of being stateside and having their anti CCP bias but that doesn't mean they are wrong. Just shall we say, optimistic at times reading the tea leaves when they venture into opinions. They generally are honest about disclosing that though. Hence, any nationalist, mainlander, or sympathizer is going to hate them with a fiery passion.

Epoch Times is indeed HK which is why you will hear both sides accusing them of disinformation. And it's to some degree true. They are anti CCP but also inextricably tied to them and plenty of HK big money so you will see a "China centric" bias at times.

I'm still trying to decide about Epoch Times newfound foothold in the US and who is pushing that.

Similarly the South China Morning Post can be useful if you understand their bias. Same goes for Taiwanese sources or dissident sources.

China watching is a lot like Economics, it's a dismal science of trying to pull correct info out of a lot of imperfect sources.
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TYFYS.

 
Other "good" sources.

This guy is relatively new but is doing a good job of aggregating financial news. There are blindspots that come with that (such as believing GDP numbers) but he does a good job overall imo.
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ADV 'nuff said.
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China Uncensored optimistic but well researched

Dissidents from former CCP controlled media, they obviously HATE the CCP and root for their fall but are often FIRST when reporting about issues coming out of China.
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Obviously, there's no shortage of China Daily and their ilk for you to find the CCP's side of things. Equally, most of our own media has been coopted anyways. Bloomberg is probably the worst but I still do watch it to see what the latest spin is.

I have a couple more obscure sources that are basically random dudes with Chinese business dealings, wives, or whatever but it will take me more tim to find those channels in my watch history.
 
About the 17:00 mark explains the likely CCP survival strategy happening rn...

I don't have a fully formed opinion of the reliability of the channel but 100% I agree with that speculation of the CCP's motives.
 
Haven't watched any of the clips posted, yet, so maybe my question is answered in one. If China goes under/hermit-status, how screwed are we due to our reliance on Chinese manufacturing, them buying US debt, etc? How could they even go under with international economies relying so heavily on them for good and resources?
 
laowhy86 and serpentza team up for the advpod, but also have their own channels
 
Haven't watched any of the clips posted, yet, so maybe my question is answered in one. If China goes under/hermit-status, how screwed are we due to our reliance on Chinese manufacturing, them buying US debt, etc? How could they even go under with international economies relying so heavily on them for good and resources?
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With China building military bases in the Solomon Islands and in the P.I., I don't see how they would be straying anytime soon from their One Belt One Road initiative.
 
They will stop when they run out of money and they are getting there pretty fast. The lockdown of Shanghai makes no medical sense and is economically devastating. The hermit strategy does solve part of that puzzle.

Haven't watched any of the clips posted, yet, so maybe my question is answered in one. If China goes under/hermit-status, how screwed are we due to our reliance on Chinese manufacturing, them buying US debt, etc? How could they even go under with international economies relying so heavily on them for good and resources?
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With China building military bases in the Solomon Islands and in the P.I., I don't see how they would be straying anytime soon from their One Belt One Road initiative.
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Haven't watched any of the clips posted, yet, so maybe my question is answered in one. If China goes under/hermit-status, how screwed are we due to our reliance on Chinese manufacturing, them buying US debt, etc? How could they even go under with international economies relying so heavily on them for good and resources?
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We? are already diversifying supply chains out of China. Short term painful but long term it was going to happen anyways. They are going to have their own rustbelt. With pollution millions of times worse.

They've likely already exhausted much of their foreign reserves(though they claim otherwise) and still only hold 10-15%? of the foreign holdings of US assets(Japan is #1). @creepycoug and I have been through this. It's a piece of CCP propaganda that they "hold so much US debt they could bankrupt the dollar". In total they hold less than 5% of US debt and IF they sold it all off would tank the value of their own holdings. They also HAVE to have X amount of US dollars to be able to engage in exports and imports. This is why you've seen large investment firms trying to drum up investment in China despite anyone with a brain realizing not to. They are being paid by the CCP to try and get greenbacks invested in their economy bc they are running out quickly.

 
Wowhttps://twitter.com/ianbremmer/status/1526685742847639553
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The USA is certainly using its moral high ground to call this out...right?
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When you said you expected China to irreparably collapse, I couldn't fathom how that was so. Clearly missing something. Then I came across this theory for a pending collapse (below). Is this what you are seeing? If not, how so?

TIA

 
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